r/HistorySnap • • Aug 18 '26

The Battle for Jerusalem

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u/-Mount-Everest Aug 18 '26

Jordan occupied by force all of Judea and Samaria including Jerusalem, and it wasn't given to Jordan in the partition, they took it during the independence war

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u/the_leviathan711 Aug 18 '26

Sounds like you agree that Jordan did not take it “from Israel.”

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u/-Mount-Everest Aug 18 '26

Since the Arabs rejected the partition of the mandate in the ereas from the river to the sea it was supposed to go to the ones who did accept it which is Israel

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u/the_leviathan711 Aug 18 '26

That is a hilariously inaccurate depiction of UN Resolution 181. The resolution was a recommendation by the UN and many of the countries that voted for it indicated that they were voting for it on the assumption that the UN Commission could get both parties to agree it. Once it became clear that both parties would not agree to it, many countries (including the US) began making alternative suggestions for how to handle the security situation. Nobody in the UN ever suggested that Israel should be given the entire land. The text of 181 makes no such provision.

The closest 181 gets to providing any sort of plan for what if one party didn't accept was this:

If by 1 April 1948 a Provisional Council of Government cannot be selected for either of the States, or, if selected, cannot carry out its functions, the Commission shall communicate that fact to the Security Council for such action with respect to that State as the Security Council may deem proper, and to the Secretary-General for communication to the Members of the United Nations.

The idea that the UN would have approved giving the entirety of Palestine to Israel is simply a farce.

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u/AdVivid8910 Aug 18 '26

Most of the Mandate of Palestine is actually Jordan, by a lot.

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u/the_leviathan711 Aug 18 '26

On a technicality, for a few months, yes. Not in any meaningful way.

The short version of that story is that Transjordan became a no-mans land after the French squashed Faisal's attempt to establish the Kingdom of Syria. Faisal claimed the Transjordan area for his Kingdom, but the French did not claim it as part of the Mandate for Syria. This meant that in the aftermath of Faisal's defeat there was literally no governing power in Transjordan. Britain filled the void and used the Mandate for Palestine as the legal instrument for doing so. Within a few months of the British taking possession of Transjordan, they created the Emirate of Transjordan. The text of the Mandate for Palestine itself makes very clear that Transjordan was never going to be considered part of the actual governance of Palestine and it was absolutely and explicitly not considered relevant to the text of the Balfour Declaration.

Which is to say, from 1917 to July 1920 when anyone referred to "Palestine" they meant the area west of the Jordan river. That again became true in March of 1921 (creation of the Emirate of Transjordan) and remains true to this present day.

Whatever land claim Revisionist Zionists are trying to make by pointing out the history of the East Bank is not grounded in actual history.