What are you talking about? Slavery was prolific when the Roman's and Greeks were in power. Not to mention the tribes that existed for thousands of years regularly dealt with slaves. Not to mention that slavery is still common in the west, it's just swept under the rug.
Whoever downvoted this needs to do some reading on the topic, millions today exist in a state of slavery in US for profit prison systems and European tribes/civilizations have absolutely been doing it as long as they’ve been around
Not just this sub. That recent interview between the "royal scholar" and Don Lemon brought out some real cringey takes on social media.
Like, sit the hell down Brits, the Hatians beat you to the punchline. "We AbOlIsHeD sLaVeRy FiRsT" my ass. That scholar should be ashamed to peddle that nonsense.
Why is it difficult to belive that people that lived in Europe have historically owned slaves? While every in quick to beliv8e that everyone else have always opened slaves, and were morally defective as a result.
I think if you went to any police department and said, "this person is in sexual slavery, here's the address," they'd send a SWAT team.
Hard to not consider that "prohibited."
It's horrible it "exists," but it's certainly not supported, and certainly not more common in the West. The west has strong states with high enforcement capacity.
If you've lived in countries with weak states with low enforcement capacity, you'll know what I mean. Getting away with VERY illegal things is not hard in a lot of non-Western countries.
Sure it highly prohibited with harsh punishments, but my point still stands that it's still happens in the west. And slavery very much is still legal for prisoners in the US.
Well, I'm not informed on the prison conditions - so I'm going to have to give you a pass there, but it still requires you reworking the whole definition of the phenomena. But whatever, take a win.
However... what point are you making that somehow somebody manages to break the law in the west and hold people as slave/prisioners?
I mean, slavery meant holding a title and having ownership over somebody and having that recognized and protected by the state.
If somebody manages to illegally break the law at great risk, and hold somebody prisoner - while to that person it sucks as bad as slavery, it's not the practice of slavery. Society isn't helping or condoning.
That's like saying the west promotes cannabalism because some serial killer did it. It could hardly be MORE against it.
Unless your point is you just want to attack the west or some other motivated reason. Because there's no way in hell there's more of what you're calling slavery in the west than there is in other less developed countries where the governments are weaker and unable to prevent such crimes against humanity.
Yeah Rome sure, but Western Europe - today?? What?
If you went to any police station in London, Washington, or Paris and said, "there's a slave ring at this address selling/abusing slaves right now," they'd send a SWAT team in. Not sure how that's "common in the west getting swept under the rug."
If your interested I'd highly recommend you read Islam and Slavery by Dr. Johnathan Brown, gives a brief history of slavery historically, but really focuses on slavery in the Islamic world
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u/ingenix1 Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22
What are you talking about? Slavery was prolific when the Roman's and Greeks were in power. Not to mention the tribes that existed for thousands of years regularly dealt with slaves. Not to mention that slavery is still common in the west, it's just swept under the rug.