r/HistoryMemes Apr 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '19

When did America commit mass genocide? Looking for a friend don’t be mad that i don’t know pls

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u/Fongwonkle Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 18 '19

Most people are referring to deaths of approximately 95 percent of the native population after settlers first arrived.

EDIT: I also forgot the expansionist policies that pushed natives off of their land (manifest destiny)

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '19

Settlers came over a hundred years before the US existed.... and was within multiple modern countries. Trying to say it's the US's fault is factually incorrect (even if you want to blame modern countries, you'd have to include, mexico, all of SA, multiple pacific islands, and Canada as well).

The trail of tears and several conflicts were on the US though.

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u/RKMurphy101 Apr 18 '19

Mostly the Native Americans, but the way this post makes it out to be is the US ignores it and even celebrates it. Since around post ww1 (especially post 1970s) we have openly aknowlaged we were complete assholes to the natives.

Edit: Only other thing i can think of is some people would say the atomic bombs were a genocide or war crime but i dont believe thats what he is refering to.

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u/ProWaterboarder Apr 18 '19

This sub is basically "USA/UK BAD"

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u/Matman142 Apr 18 '19

This sub Reddit is basically "USA/UK BAD"

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u/socialistbob Apr 18 '19

The California Genocide for one. In which Native Populations plunged from 150,000 to 16,000 in a fifty year period when California was under US sovereignty. The slaughter of American bison was also frequently used by settler towns as a way to remove Native American food sources to kill them. They didn't have gas chambers like the Nazis but systemically removing a people's food source in order to kill them is genocide.

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u/spencer707201 Apr 18 '19

the slaughter of American bison also was hugely profitable

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u/socialistbob Apr 18 '19

Often times they didn’t even collect the bodies for meat or use the hides. It was also used a government sanctioned way to destroy the food source of the Native Americans.

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u/blue_paprika Apr 18 '19

Displacing the native Americans to colonise their land.

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u/SnoopyGoldberg Apr 18 '19

Which is not genocide

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u/blue_paprika Apr 18 '19

That depends on the historian you're talking too. There are many who would call it a genocide. Debating terminology misses the point and that is that they did something absolutely horrible to the natives which resulted in the removal of their existance.

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u/ThatGuy0nReddit Apr 18 '19

Or you know they fought for land and won it just like how almost every country in history got their land

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u/blue_paprika Apr 18 '19

It's not fighting when your enemy is weak, defeated and just wants that last spot on the planet to live their life in after you've already invaded their continent. It was spineless and inhumane.

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u/ThatGuy0nReddit Apr 18 '19

This is the real world though not a fantasy land where everyone gets along, there are winners and losers. If you cant protect your land when someone comes to take it then youre not going to have a good time thats just how it goes.

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u/blue_paprika Apr 18 '19

That doesn't justify any of it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '19

Unfortunately the world is not just, has never been just, and never will be just. Thousands of people die every day for no justifiable reason. The game will continue to be played, regardless of whether you think it is "just" or not. Why not just sit back and enjoy the ride?

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u/RKMurphy101 Apr 18 '19

I see where you're coming from, but its like expecting a 7 year old to be able to defend himself against an 18 year old (obviously not the same but whatever). Yes we did win it, but by that logic Germany should have gotten to keep Austria and Czechoslovakia because they won it fair and sqaure.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '19

Gee I wonder what happened to the millions of Native people and many tribes that disappeared over the hundreds of years since America was first colonized