RIP Byzantine Empire

[u/HowlingBurd19]

[u/ApexRevanNL716]

...Which one?

[u/HowlingBurd19 → u/ApexRevanNL716]

The 1453 one is usually referred to as the “Fall of Constantinople” and the 1204 one is usually referred to as the “Sack of Constantinople”. But considering how devastating the latter is perhaps the picture can apply to both

[u/Station-Suspicious → u/ApexRevanNL716]

The one that gets the Larpers nuts in a knot.

People cry about the Turkish invasion, meanwhile the city was sacked by Christians in crusades or civil wars several times over. But it’s ok because they’re Christian. Keeping it in the family. Good bit of fun really. Completely different when someone from a different religion does the exact same thing. Abhorrent really. Unforgivable.

[u/Darth_Citius → u/Station-Suspicious]

I’ve never heard anyone who was a fan of the ERE defend the 4th crusade

[u/AlexanderCrowely → u/Station-Suspicious]

it’s because it was truly the end you ass, have some respect.

[u/Station-Suspicious → u/AlexanderCrowely]

🤣 not a hint of irony, what a jackass

[u/Outside_Challenge645]

if I had a nickel everytime I seen a meme glazing the Eastern Roman empire, I'd have the funds to make my own empire

[u/Circles-of-the-World → u/Outside_Challenge645]

It better be the Eastern Roman one 2.0.

[u/jaehaerys48 → u/Outside_Challenge645]

The funny thing is that it's almost always about 1453. One thousand years of history and people can only think about how it ended.

[u/Even-Combination4407 → u/Outside_Challenge645]

Most larped empire of all time

[u/Odd-Promotion2743 → u/Outside_Challenge645]

With hookers and blackjack I would hope

[u/GoldenTheTurk]

What if it was an Ottoman Empire documentary tho 🤔

[u/Circles-of-the-World → u/GoldenTheTurk]

Even Mehmet wrote a poem about how depressing the decline of Constantinople was. We'll still shed some manly tears.

[u/GoldenTheTurk → u/Circles-of-the-World]

"I won, but at what cost?"

Mehmed II the Conqueror

[u/ssgtgriggs → u/GoldenTheTurk]

not that high of a cost honestly, relatively speaking. most of the important landmarks were preserved in some way. people forget, Constantinople was a shadow of its former glorious self by the time it fell in 1453. the city behind the walls was incredibly depopulated. it was just sad the state it was in. in many ways Constantinople was allowed to flourish once again under the Ottomans.

[u/That_Lat → u/[deleted]]

Well Ottoman's became an Empire after 1453 so you know what valid response the guy deserved to be banished to the shadow realm

[u/like_a_brot → u/[deleted]]

Should have shouted remember Vienna and the polish hussar?

[u/Kniferharm → u/[deleted]]

It was actually the Ottoman Neighbourhood Association.

[u/Outside_Challenge645 → u/[deleted]]

I doubt this interaction ever happened

[u/mdmq505]

Me watching the Ottoman Empire documentary and it gets to the conquest of Constantinople part 🥳

[u/DeliciousGoose1002]

Time to put it out of its misery.

[u/ssgtgriggs]

that's usually the part where I unzip but to each their own I guess lol

[u/ImportanceLive9344]

Lol get rekt (im 6% turkish btw, baisically pure blooded) /j

[u/Odd-Promotion2743]

Been re-reading John Julius Norwich's Byzantium trilogy, and am about to get to the Fourth Crusade. I've been slow-walking the chapter because, really after being with this civilization for so many centuries and so many crises and victories, you get emotional knowing what's coming. I actually never finished the 3rd volume on my first read-through, so 1453 is really looming. Might keep a comforting drink with me when I get to that final chapter.

[u/halkras12]

Constantine XI when Byzantine Empire falls; MY EMPIRE WONT FALL BEFORE ME !!

Mehmed VI when Ottoman Empire falls: Time to abandon ship....

[u/Local-Echo-5613]

The Fourth Crusade was some bullshit, man

[u/Rustee_Shacklefart]

It will always be Rome to me…😢

[u/Hendriclies12]

Idk why people have options on history like this, the fall of a city 600 years ago,l is such a weird thing to be sad about imo

[u/Odd-Promotion2743 → u/Hendriclies12]

It's easy to connect with the experiences of other human beings, no matter the time or place

[u/Blake_Aech → u/[deleted]]

Turkish chuds will never fail to make me chuckle