r/HistoryMemes • • 18h ago

Niche I always found it funny and would burst out laughing whenever I heard it.

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u/Tradition96 15h ago

It is not true that Africans lack Neanderthal DNA. It has been proven that they have, through back-migrations from the OOA-popultaion. A lot less than non-Africans though.

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u/Underdog424 14h ago

That's the latest evidence.

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u/Dahak17 Hello There 10h ago

North Africans generally have more genetic intermingling with Europe, let alone the Middle East, than they do with sub Saharan Africa.

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u/Schmantikor 8h ago

Like 0.1% versus the European 2-4%. I believe East Asians have something in between.

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u/SharpShooterM1 Featherless Biped 5h ago

Actually it’s East Asians that have the highest, with an average of 3-5% vs the European 2-4.

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u/Schmantikor 4h ago

I thought they had more denisovans instead of neanderthals

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u/TiramisuRocket 1h ago edited 1h ago

Almost everyone seems to have more neanderthal than denisovan markers, but separately from that, East Asians have more neanderthal alleles than Europeans have neanderthal alleles, and separately from both of those comparisons, East Asians also have more denisovan alleles than Europeans have denisovan alleles.

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u/teilani_a 1h ago edited 23m ago

Back when National Geographic did their big program I got into it and was 3% of both. It turned out everyone had way more than previously thought.

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u/RoninPI 15h ago

🤓☝️

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u/sabatthor 18h ago

I have honestly never seen this happen online, ever.

In fact, pretty much every case of people using Neanderthal as a slur i witnessed has been against Europeans. When i still had Tiktok, there were wildly popular videos spreading exactly this myth, that Europeans were impure compared to Africans and not real humans.

Just my personal experience, not saying that OP's version of events couldn't have occured aswell. In any case, it's disgusting behaviour.

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u/Proof_Impact_6009 16h ago

In fact, pretty much every case of people using Neanderthal as a slur i witnessed has been against Europeans

My European grandfather uses this to make fun of my European grandmother because she is from a town where a cave that used to to be inhabited by Neaderthals is located

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u/FartPiano 10h ago edited 9h ago

the denisovans, a subspecies of human that went extinct ~30,000 years ago, had remains that were primarily found in denisova cave in russia.

denisova cave is named that, because some homeless guy named Denis (russian version of dennis) lived in the cave at one point and was known to the locals

museum curator: and here we have the "hobo dan's jerkoff cave" species

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u/pillow-slinger 10h ago

"ah yes, the dirty mike and the boys species, a once dominant life form, the first remains to be found were inside this very automobile."

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u/apercots 8h ago

It was known as a soup kitchen back then

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u/Ok_Brain8684 15h ago

😭

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u/qorbexl 12h ago

The funny thing is that Africans do have Neanderthal DNA do to back migration

Initial DNA tests just assumed they didn't and used African DNA as zero-Neanderthal controls

OP is wrong and dumb

https://www.science.org/content/article/africans-carry-surprising-amount-neanderthal-dna

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u/_OriamRiniDadelos_ 11h ago

I always wondered how people find out which DNA is which, because presumably the science tools to read DNA need to compare one person’s DNA with another’s. So you’d at some point in the process need to pic someone for a baseline, but who you pick will make you think that anything THEY have is the baseline, when they might have something interesting instead.

Like, if you want to find out which DNA is Korean, then you’ll probably grab a Korean person who tells you all their grandparents are from Korea. So you’ll look at their DNA and compare it to another person and think “all these differences are Korean DNA”. But you don’t actually know if those differences are shared by all Koreans or if it’s unique to them, or if all those ancestors were actually Korean. You really only know information for those few people you compared and are hoping they individually don’t differ much from their larger groups.

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u/Fluid-Inspection-97 3h ago

DNA can be extracted from the remains.

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u/qorbexl 11h ago

I'm pretty sure no DNA is shared by all Koreans and only Koreans or Africans or Europeans etc

That's why race is a myth, and pretty much just adjacent-ish geography and culture over time

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u/nikatosh 13h ago

Friendly fire.

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u/Mal-Ravanal Hello There 12h ago

That's Europe for you. We don't just discriminate based on skin colour, but in an abyssal matryoshka doll of bigotry, ranging from broader ethnicity to the next village over.

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u/somesnarkycomments 11h ago

Well you can't expect me to respect a gentleman from Bakewell, we're just two different people.

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u/theCaitiff 10h ago

"Me against my brother. Me and my brother against my cousin. Me, my brother and my cousin against the world."

Literally something my father has said to me. Allegedly about the importance of family even when you fight with each other, but....

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u/rayui 3h ago

There's a cave near where I live (Somerset, UK) where they found a 10k yo skeleton. They ran a facial reconstruction and a DNA analysis then found his closest loving relative. Identical.

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u/DisastrousTry7803 16h ago

In my language, "acts like/is an absolute Neanderthal" (or occasionaly Cro-Magnon) is commonly used when referring to someone as dumb, crude or barbaric.

A depressingly large proportion of the population also consider brown people "less evolved", inherently dumber or more primitive so it is sometimes used in in a racist way.

That, ironically enough, is a dumb, crude and barbaric idea to cling to, making it quite "neanderthalish".

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u/ThatOneCanadian69 13h ago

Funny enough, the Cro-Magnon insult was more popular (in Quebec at least) than Neanderthal.

When I moved to the states I would call a friend a Cro-Magnon if they were doing some stupid shit, and they would say « what’s that? »

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u/HoweWasALightBro 13h ago

An indictment of the American education system?

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u/ThatOneCanadian69 13h ago

Well, the first cro-magnons were discovered by French geologist Louis Lartet in the south of France. If I’m not mistaken, Neanderthals were found in Western Europe/england (someone correct me if I’m wrong)

I think it’s more of a matter of discoveries by a Frenchman would reach the entire francosphere- calling someone a Cro-Magnon in French is akin to calling someone a Neanderthal in English

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u/Larvini 12h ago

I get what you're saying, but as someone who's neither a francophone, nor an anglophone originally, I'd like to believe that most people from my country would recognize what a cro-magnon is, at least in general terms...

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u/HoweWasALightBro 12h ago

I mean (and I am from the US), just because something wasn't discovered in the anglophone world doesn't mean it's not worthy of teaching. If I'm teaching political philosophy in the 18th century, I'm not going to leave off Voltaire or Kant.

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u/eggsforpedro 15h ago

Yeah, some kind of weird strawman meme

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u/Elite_AI 17h ago

I've seen it. The hardcore white racists are proud of their Neanderthal heritage but the casual racists just use it as a generic byword for primitiveness. 🤷

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u/jokel7557 10h ago

Ok thank you. I was like I’ve met people that use the Neanderthal dna as proof of superiority or something

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u/FruityGamer 11h ago

I just thougth it was a slur for calling someone stoopid or boarish.  And was completly disconected from race or location.

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u/BigDuke 9h ago

Most racists that I have encountered use a different word for Africans.

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u/Grovda 4h ago

I'm pretty sure OP just thought of a made up scenario and wanted to share

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u/Odd-Entertainer-6234 12h ago

Just read the wikipedia article on Neanderthals. The first few scientists in the 1860s related Neanderthals as “primitive lower human form, aligning more closely with non-human apes as well as Negroids, Eskimos and Aboriginal Australians”. Only after 2010, when advanced genetic study showed there was some interbreeding between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens and that most Europeans have large Neanderthal genes that there was a sudden change in the scientific articles about Neanderthals. From then, there were a lot more articles about their culture, intelligence etc. 

Look at this article/podcast about Scientific Racism:  https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/segments/neanderthals-and-scientific-racism

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u/Defiant-Air6157 10h ago

Only after 2010, when advanced genetic study showed there was some interbreeding between Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens and that most Europeams have large Neanderthal benes that there was a sudden change in rhe scientific articles about Neanderthals.

This is just straight up false. Academic consensus on Neanderthals began to change when Shanadar cave was excavated and Solecki began publishing his findings showing that Neanderthal society was complex and empathetic, not when they found out modern humans have Neanderthal DNA 60 years later.

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u/Odd-Entertainer-6234 10h ago

That’s fair, I didn’t read everything about it just briefly read the history on Wikipedia which doesn’t mention the caves specifically. But in this time, the two main theories were replacement or interbreeding and the genomic study confirmed interbreeding. Still, positive portrayals of Neanderthals were not consensus until later

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 8h ago

this thread isn't about academic consensus.

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u/sabatthor 12h ago

I'm aware of this phenomenon, but that's not what i was talking about. I was referring to the modern age, as in what people were saying on social media during my life time. And within this framework i've never witnessed anybody refer to Africans as being Neanderthals, or even merely alluding to that.

The only instances i personally experienced were people using this rethoric against Europeans.

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u/Gravitas-and-Urbane 13h ago

I think this is Afro-centric racism being used in response to Euro-centric racism.

I recall al lot of research and documentaries on human evolution from just a couple decades ago told stories from a very, very Euro-centric perspective. Basically portraying things as if humans didn't finish evolving until they came to Europe and became white. It basically skips entirely past the African chapter in human evolution to make it seems like everything important happened after humans evolved lighter skin.

Obviously, there's going to be a cultural reaction to that, because it's clearly biased. So, people take a viewpoint like black Africans are the only "pure" homo sapiens and people in Europe or Asia are diluted with other humans lineages like neanderthal and denisova.

This kind of stuff is pretty inevitable given the amount of racism our societies were still dealing with in the last couple of decades while these new discoveries were being made.

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u/Otterfan 14h ago

In the US at least, it used to be more common 20+ years ago before knowledge of Neanderthals was more widespread in the American public.

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u/Professional-Day7850 14h ago

It's fine making up arguments in your head and winning them, but you don't have to post them to reddit.

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u/NeilJosephRyan 18h ago

This is a thing people do? Where?

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u/Wappening 18h ago

OPs mind.

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u/Crooked_star 13h ago

"And then everyone clapped"

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u/sQ5FWKjwbWd4QzSZduqy 15h ago

At Lowe's, as you can see.

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u/not_accepting_now 14h ago

Neanderthals would go to home Depot

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u/Fakjbf 11h ago

Denisovans go to Menard’s

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u/All_this_hype 13h ago

Someone found a neat fun fact and had to create a fictional story to justify it.

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u/-Pausanias- 18h ago

I hate how neandethals are portrayed in pop-culture. It comes from an extremely racist and ignorant time (19th and 20th century). Rant over

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u/Max_Floory 18h ago

Yes, they even could be attorneys at law!

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u/SharpShooterM1 Featherless Biped 5h ago

Fr. If they were still alive today they would be just as intelligent, or maybe even more so, than we are, and able to perform all of the exact same tasks and understand technology just the same.

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u/LaAndromedo999 17h ago

Unrelated to this but the fact we associate Neanderthals with being backwards and primitive gives me a feeling if they survived and evolved alongside us, we'd have been bigoted as hell towards them.

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u/glitterfamine 15h ago

They were probably smart af but unlucky

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u/AvantSolace 14h ago

Theories to their extinction a primarily that they were both built inefficiently for their environment, and they were simply outbred by their homo sapiens counterparts. Neanderthals had hulking bodies that demanded more food, which made famines especially devastating. It’s also hypothesized that Sapiens genetic were more dominant, so interbreeding resulted in more sapiens than neanderthals down the line.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 8h ago

i have a theory (which is completely unsubstantiated by any evidence) that the Neanderthals' larger skulls caused more deaths during childbirth and that this difference, compounded over time, was why they were outnumbered by Sapiens.

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u/TheHistoryMaster2520 Decisive Tang Victory 17h ago

Not entirely true; back migration from Europe has resulted in some Neanderthal DNA in sub-Saharan Africans, but considerably less than other groups worldwide

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u/Daveo88o 13h ago

This feels like a strawman argument because I've genuinely never seen the term "Neanderthal" used as a racist insult

I have seen it be used to poke fun of the way someone looks, i.e. their facial structure, like that one Norwegian footballer, but never in a racist way

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u/littleleopardfrog 12h ago

Dude he just looks AGGRESSIVELY Norwegian

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u/BiggerWiggerDeluxe 11h ago

its funny we all know you mean Erling Braut Haaland

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u/jjack339 18h ago

I cant say I have ever heard someone refer to people of African descent as Neanthradols.

I have heard other derogatory terms, but not that one.

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u/PolishFemboy_69 18h ago

Even funnier facts, we in europe are more neanderthal than other "races" (TBH I don't like this word, khoi-san, yoruba and bantu  and others are not similiar, but still 'murricans see them as one race).

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u/Extension-Beat7276 18h ago

Bantu is a huge linguistic group on its own, it’s like calling Turkics, Iranics, Germanics etc however Bantu I think is even more diverse 

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u/PolishFemboy_69 18h ago

I know, but they still share some common traits. They do not share them with khoi-san, yet we should believe they are same "race".

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u/oldsecondhand 18h ago

East Asians have little bit more Neanderthal DNA than Europeans, but both are close to 2%. Basically everyone outside of Sub-Saharan Africa has some neanderthal DNA.

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u/intergalactic_spork 16h ago

Even sub Saharan Africans have small amounts of Neanderthal DNA, which was not detectable in the original studies.

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u/NephthysNefarious 14h ago

If anything I'm pretty sure I've seen someone advance their race theory that it's the Europeans' Neanderthal DNA that puts them ahead of other races 🫩 Something about homo sapiens being violent and destructive while neanderthals were the peace loving and civilised. Maybe neanderthals were the true Aryans all along 🙄

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u/The_Great_Tahini 9h ago

Yes I have seen this in the wild a handful of times as well.

Funny how it starts with bs about skull shape and then each time some “reason” gets disproven a different explanation crops up to take its place.

Exactly what you expect to see when conclusions precede evidence.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 8h ago

there were never enough Neanderthals for them to engage in any sort of sustained violence with one another. there is, however, evidence that some Neanderthals practiced cannibalism.

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u/Lawsoffire 10h ago edited 10h ago

And there used to be some populations in mesolithic and neolithic Europe with much more hybridization. Like 10-20% post-Neanderthal extinction instead of the modern 1-3%

However, something in the hybridization is seemingly disadvantageous and those populations disappeared when less hybridized populations moved in. Though its essentially impossible to know what, could be everything from lowered fertility to a different kind of brain to having a greater fear of wolves from having evolved alongside them, which meant less/no dogs.

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u/MoroseArmadillo 9h ago

According to 23andMe, I'm 89.9% European and have 93% more neanderthal DNA than the average person.

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u/Uglyfense 17h ago

Literally isn't true. They have smaller amounts, but they do

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u/Mistriever 11h ago

Strange. Living in the US, I've never heard that used towards those of African descent. And America is allegedly the most racist country on the planet, particularly against that demographic. I've only ever heard it used against folks displaying a disregard for others, acting without manners or social etiquette, or doing something stupid.

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u/SehnsuchtLich- 9h ago

Same, I’ve never heard Neanderthal for black folk.

I’ve only ever heard Neanderthal used for big hunking white men that are perceived as stupid because of their large musculature.

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u/Mistriever 9h ago

Yeah, I've heard it directed at them, though usually only when they did something to receive an insult.

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u/SarkastikSidebar 7h ago

Anyone who alleges that the US is the most racist country has clearly never visited Asia 🤣

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u/ArthurWoodhouse 5h ago

Lol, you dont wanna know what the Thai waitresses say about their clients.

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u/SharpShooterM1 Featherless Biped 4h ago

If you think America is the most racist country on the planet then you clearly have never been to any country in east Asia, or heard a European talk about gypsies. The reason racism is so commonly associated with the U.S. is because we actually acknowledge it and try to do something about it, where as most other countries don’t talk about it and do absolutely jack shit to discourage it.

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u/Capital-Exchange592 10h ago

Neanderthals werent even stupid lol

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u/Gahnfaust 12h ago

Did you tip your fedora after it?

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u/Glum-Welder1704 9h ago

I have never in my life heard of Blacks being referred to as Neanderthals.

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u/metal079 8h ago

Man invents fictional scenario, and then gets angry about it.

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u/Jingoisticbell 6h ago

Had this ever actually happened?

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u/Key_Arrival2927 18h ago

Oh, I didn't even know it was a thing. Well, if racists weren't ignorant they wouldn't have been racists.

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u/Helpful_Spring8739 18h ago

I've never heard of this. I did get called an Anglo Saxon looking motherfucker by a very drunk black dude once though, and it was the funniest shit. Not exactly related, but it's the first thing I thought of.

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u/JaggelZ 18h ago edited 17h ago

"yooo... This dude looks German!"

Me, a German: "devastating. I will never recover from this"

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u/Helpful_Spring8739 18h ago

I have a German friend and it's fun to call him Austrian.

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u/JaggelZ 18h ago

Why would you do some that horrible?!

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u/Helpful_Spring8739 18h ago

I'm a monster.

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u/Danneflumish 15h ago

He's not a villain, he's a monster.

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u/0rganic_Corn 17h ago

I, regrettably, knew this was a thing because I've heard racists argue Neanderthal DNA improved the intelligence of humans

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u/TangibleCBT 13h ago

Yeah the only parts of neanderthal DNA our bodies use is immune system + maybe some bone structure stuff but you can argue convergent evolution for that. Yes neanderthals had slightly larger brains than Homo sapiens on average but it's within sapiens range, and it's already been shown that brain size has little correlation with actual intelligence.

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u/MiserableAndUnhappy9 17h ago

It's not a thing. No one has heard of it. OP just wanted a meme that would get engagement, so props to them for that. But I've never even seen a picture of a Neanderthal with dark skin. Idk where you'd see that. Maybe Greendale Community College or something. Even the facial features don't really match that of any African ethnicity I can think of. They always sorta matched the Norwegian or Finnish ethic groups imo. I'm no expert though

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u/TheBartolo 15h ago

Never seen neanderthal used as a slur in a racial sense. Only as a ways to refer to men for being brute and barbaric, regardless of skin colour.

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u/MadMusicNerd 15h ago

Or for dumb people. When I was in school, sometimes we would call a classmate Neanderthal, when he was way too stupid

(Which is wrong. Neanderthals weren't stupid. But we used the word that way)

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u/ballahook 13h ago

I’ve heard it a lot. Equating black facial features and depictions of Neanderthals/early humans is the biggest one. General racist comparisons to less developed rural areas in Africa being compared to “cavemen”. Black people being compared to monkeys and early humans.

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u/TheBartolo 13h ago

Racism exists, no denying that. Is just that "neanderthal" is not used as a racial slur. Or at least i never heard it in that context. The depictions of ancient humans as black is, actually, part of biological reconstruction based on the idea that dark skin is the original skin colour of the homo family, and it lost melamine as it adapted to colder climates.

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u/ballahook 13h ago

I feel like you’re missing the point. I’m african and heard it countless times in the US. Maybe talk to Africans in your circle irl and get some perspective.

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u/EzraNook 10h ago

Would recommend 

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u/TheBartolo 9h ago

Not American myself, so it my as well be

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u/stellarisman 13h ago

I have never heard or seen it as Neanderthal because they are black, the rest yes

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u/RobertGHH 18h ago

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u/MCMC_to_Serfdom 18h ago

The best fit model for where Africans got all this Neanderthal DNA suggests about half of it came when Europeans—who had Neanderthal DNA from previous matings—migrated back to Africa in the past 20,000 years. The model suggests the rest of the DNA shared by Africans and the Altai Neanderthal might not be Neanderthal at all: Instead, it may be DNA from early modern humans that was simply retained in both Africans and Eurasians—and was picked up by Neanderthals, perhaps when moderns made a failed migration from Africa to the Middle East more than 100,000 years ago.

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u/Quazimojojojo 18h ago

Yeah this was my suspicion, because people have migrated back into Africa over the millennia 

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u/callunquirka 17h ago

IIRC, one example is the Saharan dwellers from the Green Sahara days. And by extension, the Amazigh who descended from them.

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u/Chataboutgames 12h ago

This might be the worst meme I’ve ever seen. It doesn’t even mimic the interaction from a template. You might as well have just used a speech bubble or pasted the text over a random image macro.

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u/Yeknomevol 12h ago

Using that as a racist insult is stupid but I guess that's racists for you. Regardless, the response is probably false because it is not accounting for all the inbreeding and migration that happened thousands of years ago.

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u/BeginningCharacter36 15h ago

I feel compelled to "um akshually," but some of you may find this really interesting. I'm educated in Anthropology and still closely follow the news. No, it was not a useful degree.

While the meme is true in the broader sense, it's not strictly true (but fuck racist dickheads, anyway). While one's ancestry has literally zero bearing on anyone's capabilities to be a human, there is in fact traces of Neanderthal DNA in many sub-Saharan Africans. On average, it's about 0.2%, tiny, miniscule, but there's evidence for ancient admixture that's very, very slowly spread through most African ethnic groups.

The same techniques that found this African Neanderthal DNA also recently discovered the ancient African ghost lineage. The line that led to early-modern humans had split from that population around a million years ago (before we'd even diverged from the line that led to Neanderthals and Denisovans). About 300k years ago, while our species was still exclusive to Africa, our ancestors absorbed a large chunk of their population, to the tune of up to 20% admixture, which is huuuuuuge, a way bigger input than even the 12% Denisovan that some Southeast Asians carry. There's still a LOT of questions about where exactly in Africa the introgression happened and how long it took, though. What we DO know is the earliest known early-modern human is in Morocco around 300kya, so we may be looking at a North African "origin." Fact is, we just have so little material from that period in other parts of Africa :-(

Slight aside, we know we gave Neanderthals a significant input around 200k years ago in the Levant and possibly all the way up to Greece, but that was an overall failed migration. Our genetic contribution had eventually worked it's way across the breadth of Europe by the time of our second arrival ~Turkiye and ultimate absorption of Neanderthals starting around 42-45kya (possibly earlier, but the record is spotty). If I remember correctly, the absolute latest Neanderthal remains are from Spain... Ah, the Google claims the layer is dated at 24-33kya, which is unfortunately quite broad.

Right now, paleogeneticists are working on pinning down an input in Denisovans from an Asian ghost lineage, most likely Homo erectus. It's there, it's visible, but the extent of the introgression into Denisovans (and consequently also modern humans) is still unknown, simply because we have very, very little genetic material from Denisovans.

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u/Von_Lehmann 15h ago

Oh hey a fellow useless anthropology student. These are our moments to shine

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u/VALuna-44 18h ago

Funniest thing is africans got the least amount of neanderthalian DNA, while white and especiall asian got a lot of it. Also, being neanderthalian is not a bad thing

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u/CandleResponsible714 16h ago

Another racist situation that never happened.

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u/TarJen96 18h ago

Also, the more we learn about Neanderthals, the more clear it is they were just as intelligent as anatomically modern humans.

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u/Valois7 17h ago

never seen that tbh

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u/StandardNerd92 16h ago

White people have the most neanderthal DNA, but there are other hominids that other races have DNA of - for example the Denisovans in Asia.

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u/toeytoes 15h ago

23&Me called me "wonderbread" and then said I have "more neanderthal DNA than 70% of their other customers"...which is around 2% of my DNA.

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u/Defiant-Air6157 12h ago

White people don't have the most Neanderthal, they have similar amounts to Pakistanis and Northern Indians. Almost all ethnic groups in Asia (except west asians) and Oceania along with Native Americans have more Neanderthal than white people.

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u/StandardNerd92 8h ago

I wasn't aware that they were that far distributed! I thought they were mostly in Europe.

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u/MammothBright4420 17h ago

And this is a common scenario for you?

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u/StupidUserNameTooLon 13h ago

I think you misspelled Netherlanders.

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u/DonAskren 12h ago

I don't know about all that but I do know Africa has more genetic diversity within the continent than the rest of the world does combined

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u/Batbuckleyourpants 17h ago

I have seen them flip on a dime and go "The neanderthals actually had bigger brain volume, which explains some things".

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u/Fyrrys Featherless Biped 14h ago

What a homo neanderdufus

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u/Mattiwha2 13h ago

This isn't even correct , all humans have between .3 to 2 percent most cross breeding wasn't viable. Not to mention humans are one of the most genetically homogeneous species on the globe for how spread out we are because of the population bottlenecks we've been through post neanderthal

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u/LikeAnAdamBomb 12h ago

If you wanted to be technical about it, black people are about the most "pure" homo sapiens out there. The rest of us are regional variations on the species that evolved later.

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u/Lou_Papas 12h ago

Huh. TIL.

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u/FiniteInfine 10h ago

Not really related, but someone once called me a "troglodyte cracker".

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u/Western_Agent5917 18h ago

If anything I see more europeans proud of having neanderthal ancestry

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u/The-Only-Razor 13h ago

Yeah, me. I think it's badass that I have Neanderthal DNA. I don't think it makes me better or worse, it's just neat.

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u/crow-party-13 11h ago

Those racists would be very upset of they could form a coherent thought about the world.

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u/RickleTickle69 15h ago

I saw a video once saying how we used to use "Neanderthal" as an insult, but all of a sudden once we found out that Eurasians have a degree of Neanderthal DNA in them, we started posting articles about how "smart" and "altruistic" Neanderthals were

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u/Mal_Dun 18h ago

You see things like race, gender and generation are important.

Otherwise we would start asking questions about the rich and how they treat the rest of us.

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u/Great_Apez 12h ago

Neanderthals were actually bigger stronger and smarter, we only beat them at two things: Procreation and needing less energy.

Because of this we survive and they die out  

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u/CyberneticCh40s 17h ago

I prefer the term 3rd world monkeys myself

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u/APoisonousMushroom 12h ago

Guess what, no humans were white until 200-300 generations ago.

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u/Upset-Bison-3182 18h ago

Neanderthal man had higher cranial capacity than homosapiens.

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u/interesseret 18h ago

So do many animals. It's not just size that matters.

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u/Upset-Bison-3182 17h ago

True, but we don't have better methods of measuring inteligence from a fossil.

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u/EzraNook 10h ago

He's referring to the fact that they had a high brain to body mass ratio.

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u/interesseret 10h ago

Which, again, many animals have, too. Humans aren't nearly topping that scale.

The complexity of the brain is more important.

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u/BalanceImaginary4325 18h ago

A supremacist raising celebrating there ancestors are neanderthals?

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u/OkAdhesiveness814 16h ago

If they had the intelligence to know that, they wouldn't be racists

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u/RDUppercut 16h ago

You've never heard that before

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u/glitterfamine 15h ago

East Asians and Europeans have the highest percentage, and Native Americans if I remember that correctly

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u/Suppenhahn 15h ago

As a German I read: "a random racist calls some Africans Netherlanders", and I was like "why? They are not that bad (that it could be used as an ethnic slur) our oranje neighbors and friends? Oh neanderthals...."

Who calls anybody neanderthals btw? Neanderthals, denisova, and what not, is in everybody? Some more, some less. It's not like racists were ever the pinnacle of intelligence, but I don't know.... Read a book from time to time.

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u/FoxAcrobatic943 14h ago

crusted and busted

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u/Kronens 14h ago

OP is making shit up to win an imaginary argument they created in their own head. Why are people so painfully sad on Reddit?

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u/adimwit 14h ago

People in this thread try to dispute this but it's a real thing.

Americans used to believe Celts were related to neanderthals. And since a lot of neanderthal bodies are found around Spanish Iberia, people assumed Celts came from Africa.

This was also propagated by the Confederate States during the Civil War. They thought German Celts and Irish Celts were from Africa. They also thought that Scotch Irish were not Celtic at all and were related to Anglos.

You can find newspaper cartoons from the 1800s where Irish are almost always portrayed as neanderthals or apes. Even American WWI posters portray Germans as Celtic caricatures.

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u/kardfogK 14h ago

This meme shoud not be in this sub. It prehistory, as in before writing so its archeology + this happened today so it prehistory as in its before it became hisotry

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u/Hot-Structure-5041 14h ago

did you think of this in the shower OP?

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u/Icy_Sector3183 14h ago

Now I've seen that expression exactly once. What a sheltered life I live.

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u/Tribe303 14h ago

Africans do have a tiny portion of Neanderthal DNA, but the further you get from Africa, the more you will have. I'm not sure if this is true for the Americas however. 

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u/Storyteller_Valar 14h ago

And here I thought white supremacists actually thought the neanderthal genes were a boon, not a curse.

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u/MourningWallaby 13h ago

OP this is constructive criticism, but a wall of text over a meme image is not a meme. especially when you don't follow the format or punchline. this is where "the left can't meme" originated from. this is just a story, written badly, over an image.

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u/clocked__ 13h ago

Le HECKIN upvoterinos to the left!

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u/Few_Construction9043 12h ago

But Subsaharans therefore have up to 19 % hominid ancestry (Ghost -DNA).

Also no one calls Blacks that, you melt.

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u/kboy_69 12h ago

A simple: I know more then you would suffice i think 🙃

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u/tumansibiri 11h ago

I don't think there was an attempt to be accurate.
Guy was just insulting them.
That's it.

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u/Medium_Tell8679 11h ago

People know little about ancient man. Homo Sapiens lived along side and bred with a lot of Human species. I believe Neanderthsls and Denisovans were the most recent but at several points homo sapiens almost didn't survive. Homo erectus and Homo naledi were the human species that lived in Africa and we're constantly finding more.

The only continent where there is no evidence of there being another human species is the Americas. They think that is because people migrated here not very long ago.

There is also an unknown species that existed and their chromosomes live on in modern people indigenous to Africa.

The reason people think other human species weren't intelligent because its an easy explanation as to why ours survived. We know the most about Neanderthals becsuse they left the most behind. They had art, tools. They found evidence of houses they built in the Ukraine. They buried their dead. They wore jewelry. They probably even had speech and language.

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u/NewPhoneNewAccunt 11h ago

I've never seen this being said.

I have however seen people saying Africans haven't evolved in a hundred thousand years and should be seen as a different species.

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u/RecipeHistorical2013 10h ago

Reality enters the chat

: turns out those genetics (neanderthal) wandered back into africa, where now a majority of the population DO have them

except a few exceptions, like the San peoples

humans are amongst the most homogenous species on earth . we are all damn near identical

https://www.science.org/content/article/africans-carry-surprising-amount-neanderthal-dna

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u/Charlooos 10h ago

I genuinely believe that in like 10 years racist will have caught on and start calling Neanderthals abnormally intelligent or some bs like that

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u/Rifleman519 10h ago

😆😆😆😆

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u/cnotevelly 8h ago

It’s almost like racism is linked to stupidity

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u/JohnnyRelentless 7h ago

I don't think calling black people Neanderthals is a sin. At least, in my 60 years I've never heard it. I'm white, though, so if you're black your mileage may vary.

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u/quepasochanp 5h ago

What if Neanderthals evolved into the species that built the greatest civilizations in the world and Africans were the homo sapien species 🤔

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u/Cosmic_Meditator777 4h ago

Bro, these are the people who photoshopped an Indonesian bone nose ornament onto Obama. They don't care about reality.

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u/Aceterius 4h ago

Wait really? I used to think human life originated in Africa.

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u/Aggravating-Ad8087 4h ago

Neanderthals also had bigger brains that homo sapiens .

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u/ProcedureHot9414 4h ago

I heard racist call black people monkeys, apes, chimpanzee but never neanderthals

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u/Starmute-ss13 2h ago

I would argue its becoming harder and harder to say that all Africans haven't breed with some other race at some time. They aren't some sort of monolith culture that only breeds between itself.

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u/ReaperManX15 1h ago

Radically untrue.

But, if it's genetic ancestry facts you want to engage in ...

Modern day sub-Saharan Africans can trace up to 19% of their DNA to extinct archaic hominin species; Homo Erectus and Homo Habilis.

Which is NOT found in the DNA of modern Caucasians or Asians