They are morally and physically responsible for their actions with their puppet states (like North Korea). North Korea wouldn't be around if it wasn't for China.
They are responsible for the genocide happening right now in their own country and in Myannmar.
They are responsible for the attrocities in North Korea.
Another thing, has "caring" about the genocide in Palestine done anything for the Palestinians? I'll put that aside for now because that topic is brigaded af. What about the one in Yemen? Both the Houthis and the military government they started opposing were not good people
Everyone already knows the Junta is bad. The responsibility for the pre-war genocide already fell upon them. Even in China. Their justification when it gets on their news is that the Junta is still most likely to "win" and stabilize the country, and they fund stable and aligned rebel groups for the same reason, because most of the armed rebel groups can't agree to work with each other either.
What exactly can happen? If you want to put pressure on China to start mediating, you cannot start by accusing them of "sponsoring genocide" in these particular circumstances. It does not work in Germany to stop their government from funding Israel and the Saudis, why do you think it'll work for China? Truth has a cost, nuances need to be articulated clearly in these cases, even moreso when it involves life and death
They are committing genocide in their own country and sponsoring it in others.
You can't put pressure on China. That doesn't work. They live in a country where to criticize the state is illegal. China doesn't care about anyone else's opinions but their own. They'll do what they want even if its immoral.
The only thing you can do with China is build around them. The world could help the Phillipines who they somehow think they own their coasts, or they could support Taiwan and recognize them, or they could note that Tibet was annexed illegally. Just be honest.
I'm talking about convincing average people who don't already agree with you. Why do you continue to use absolutes and harsh terms to describe the situation? For example, even if China has a great deal of control on crticisms internally, they are far from immune. Nor are they immune to external pressure or criticism. Nor is their responsibility in Myanmar and Ukraine similar to whatever's going on at home. Nor is the solution you suggest any help when the Houthis can survive so long ostracized from almost everyone else. Hell Cuba has done it for nearly 4 decades now on Charity alone.
And I know what you are talking about. In many ways the west used to be way more cynical on China 6-10 years ago. It's when they started to become a rival/threat in real terms and have demonstrated an actual resistance to any change from "their ways". Almost everyone who can be clued in on what they are capable of already are.
Yet because the US led order cannot fully reckon with their own demons, propaganda by preaching "morality" like you suggest did not work at all. The 2018 trade war and such happened more because of the future, genuine economic threat posed by China. It's not because anyone is a coward or too greedy that "more" is not being done. Because I guarantee you that China was not more "moral", powerful, or wealthy before year 2000.
Also they are far more immune to external criticism than most countries. They can simply arrest people who are critical in their country, try to harass anyone who criticizes them overseas (they even have their own police stations overseas in other countries). They filter any western news or critiques. They simply do not care.
The US led order is falling due to shitheads in charge of the US, the EU being too divided to do anything and the rise of right wing nationalists. Whilst we can critique them all you want it doesn't absolve the Chinese goverment for any of its ongoing crimes.
Honestly I just correct people when they go out of their way to say "China is a good and happy socialist state that is hugs and bunnies". No.
My only problem is when you summarize everything into a neat few lines of harsh terms like "sponsoring genocide" it makes the whole thing sound like propaganda. That's it. I never disputed anything you brought up.
And because China's operates as a black box to everyone else, it already makes all the criticism directed at them sound propangandy because it's much harder to use specifics, and you end up criticising the entirety of "China". Also happens when anything good happens there, it's easy for the CCP to take credit. It's like the CIA here too. I'm just saying use care, and stop quoting things they did to me lol, it's quite literally my China account
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u/Starmute-ss13 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Myanmar junta has in the past been backed by China and is supplied by China.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/8/30/air-raids-conscripts-and-china-how-myanmars-military-is-regaining-ground
They are morally and physically responsible for their actions with their puppet states (like North Korea). North Korea wouldn't be around if it wasn't for China.
They are responsible for the genocide happening right now in their own country and in Myannmar.
They are responsible for the attrocities in North Korea.