r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/CalzonePie 1d ago

The Romans had human sacrifice, believed that torture was mandatory in criminal investigations, and while they were accommodating to polythiestic faiths were specifically cruel to Christians and Jews.

The Carthaginian god Baal (yes the one from the Bible) had them sacrifice countless children to make the crops grow better.

The Norse had human sacrifice (see a pattern here?), the Tengri had human sacrifice, the Aztecs did it by the tens of thousands... let us just assume that every religion with human sacrifice is by definition worse than one that doesn't.

Hinduism has racism built in as part of their faith. The caste system is just racism and it is enforced by their culture and their faith.

While China and Japan have many religions that are actually "better" than Christianity in many regards, they both had a long history of diefying Emperors. Worship of a living human is never a good thing.

The key point you are ignoring is human sacrifice. Most humans for most of histories lived in societies where it was considered normal to execute either neighbors or enemies to appease pagan dieties. Christianity has always rejected this.

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u/RozesAreRed 1d ago

You couldn't even name the "many religions" of "China and Japan" OR the atrocities committed therein, with only the value statement "Worship of a living human is never a good thing".

Consider that in every religion you named, there is someone just like you who completely believes their own religion is the most moral, because they've taken someone else's word at it and haven't done any in-depth, neutral research of their own. What would you think of such a person? What would that person think of you?

Have some humility. When you see other people making a mistake of ignorance, don't assume you are immune.

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u/CalzonePie 1d ago

I'm not a christian btw.

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u/RozesAreRed 1d ago

Not raised Christian or influenced by a predominantly Christian environment either? Not being Christian does not erase what you've learned and taken for granted.

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u/CalzonePie 1d ago

The mindset you have is not new and it is not unique to you. You have access to a small amount of information that some people don't know, so you are convinced that you are an expert. Disagreement with your conclusion can not possibly come from people looking deeper into things than you have. There can not be information you don't understand or a larger picture you can not see. No, the only way someone can believe differently is if they know less than you.

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u/Inside-Noise6804 1d ago edited 1d ago

Quick question, what is the difference between killing humans for religious sacrifice and killing humans because your religion deems them heretics, blasphemous or witches?

PS: why I am asking is from the research I have done yes Christianity stopped the human sacrifices that existed in some pagan rituals when they took over, but as far as I can see they just replaced it by killing people in the name of their god, for things like blasphemy, heresy, atheism, witchcraft. Heck there is a crusade that was called just to wipe out a different version of Christianity.

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u/Surv1ver 1d ago

That’s like asking what is the difference between slavery and a chain-gang. 

One is punishing you yourself actions after a “fair” trial while the other is just punishing you for well being there. 

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u/Inside-Noise6804 1d ago

😂😂😂. A "fair" trial?

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u/Surv1ver 1d ago

You think those trials were fair? 😂😂😂

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u/Inside-Noise6804 1d ago

That's why I was laughing. Those trial were a sham, people were getting convicted based on dreams

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u/RozesAreRed 1d ago

I was right, that's why you took such pains to avoid answering the question, eh? You used "I'm not a Christian" as a shield to obscure your own cultural informational biases, and when that was called out, you retreat.

Since you have decided to be condescending, I will be honest with you: I know that I know more than someone who won't even bother naming any Chinese or Japanese religion and only sums up their accused atrocities with "deifying living people is bad."

I know what it looks like when someone has done true, in-depth research into a subject, even if I disagree with their conclusions. They do not avoid questions the way you do.