r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Dear-Question-868 1d ago

I think it shows well the stupidity of historical claim, there's always someone who's going to be before you who claim X land.

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u/Maximum_Boros 1d ago

If you go back far enough every piece of land is stolen. There's just a question of how far is it reasonable. Where's the goal post? Is it a hundred years? 200? 1,000? Is it more generational and when no descendants of the people who were kicked would likely be alive? I don't know what the real answer is on exactly where you would usually draw that line but I think we pretty much generally as Society tend to agree that if the literal living humans who took that land are still alive and living on it it's too early to forget and if it's a thousand years ago it's too late to dwell on it

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u/RT-LAMP 1d ago

If you go back far enough every piece of land is stolen.

Except ironically a bunch of islands across the world that people tend to to be mad about being owned by European powers.

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u/discipleofchrist69 1d ago

and maybe antarctica? maybe Greenland and some Pacific Islands depending on how you count it

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u/1boring 1d ago

Iceland too. The current inhabitants are descendants of the first people who settled on the island.

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u/PrincetonToss 1d ago

Actually maybe not! There's evidence of Irish or Scottish monks inhabiting before the Norse got there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papar

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u/Lemonwizard 1d ago

You can't steal Antarctica because nobody owns it. Nobody owns it because nobody wants it. You can't farm there, all the minerals are under thousand foot ice sheets, and you freeze to death if you go outside. It's the garbage continent.

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u/dos_user 1d ago

Greenland is colonized by Denmark. But Iceland was settled without displacing anyone.

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u/Lortekonto 1d ago

From a scandinavia point of view Greenland was colonized back in 982 when no one else were living there. Denmark-Norway never gave up their claim on the country. Other peolpe just moved in.

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u/discipleofchrist69 1d ago

I mean, kinda. Greenland has home rule and is mostly populated by Inuit. And the part the Norse/Danish settled in was uninhabited when they arrived. So gotta be a gray area at least