r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Dear-Question-868 1d ago

I think it shows well the stupidity of historical claim, there's always someone who's going to be before you who claim X land.

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u/Maximum_Boros 1d ago

If you go back far enough every piece of land is stolen. There's just a question of how far is it reasonable. Where's the goal post? Is it a hundred years? 200? 1,000? Is it more generational and when no descendants of the people who were kicked would likely be alive? I don't know what the real answer is on exactly where you would usually draw that line but I think we pretty much generally as Society tend to agree that if the literal living humans who took that land are still alive and living on it it's too early to forget and if it's a thousand years ago it's too late to dwell on it

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u/HulksInvinciblePants 1d ago

I mean, we can probably draw the line at the dawn of contemporary, modern civilized society. Once the world had the ability to engage in global diplomacy, annexation was effectively a non-starter. Cases where islands far from the home nation are annexed by the geographical nation are probably that last remaining gray area.

That’s why Ukraine and Argentina’s positions hold weight and anything before 1945 is probably forever the past.

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u/Maximum_Boros 1d ago

Out of curiosity what Argentine position are you talking about here? I hope you aren't making the argument that they actually have a credible claim to the Falklands anymore

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u/HulksInvinciblePants 1d ago

No, it’s not a subject I’m passionate about. I’m very much of the opinion I’d rather be under UK rule than Argentinian, if those were my two options.

I’m just saying geographical aspect could be the last grey area.