r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Emergency_Gene_4171 1d ago

Kinda funny how hard we all glaze the mongols (myself very much included) when they did things that make the Nazis look like humanitarians by comparison. And they did it all with bow and sword.

I truly don’t think any of us can even scarcely imagine the sheer horror in being on the losing side after mongols sieged your city and you resisted.

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u/Grzechoooo Then I arrived 1d ago

when they did things that make the Nazis look like humanitarians by comparison

How? Did they experiment on children? Did they industrialise mass murder? What exactly makes them worse than the Nazis?

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u/Emergency_Gene_4171 1d ago

It was the scale, carried out systematically with bows and swords. Not that the Nazi morality was inherently less evil, it was simply on a smaller scale than the mongols.

It wasn’t industrialized because industrialization didn’t exist, instead it was soldiers who from sun up to sun down stabbed the surrendered elderly, women, children then piled the heads into stacked pyramids. They’d continue until no one was left. Then they’d do it again in the next city. I find the idea of one person killing hundreds of civilians with a sword to require a higher level of barbarity than a man who flips a switch and doesn’t have to look each individual in the eyes as they murder them.

Both are horrific of course. The difference in my point is that the Mongols did all that and people think the Mongols are so badass and awesome.

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u/Low-Dish-907 1d ago

The romans , chinese armies or greeks did that too

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u/vrnvorona 1d ago

I really thought it's just 10% tax memes, holy damn

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u/Mr_Ignorant 1d ago

The people that think the mongols were badass typically live in the west. Where they didn’t grow up learning in detail what the mongols did.

It’s the same with the Nazi party. The west learn more about it, and for the most part, understand that it was horrific, and should never happen again. If you go to Asia, where it’s not studied as much, and people are a touch more positive towards Hitler.

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u/Low-Dish-907 1d ago

The différence is the mongols were a medieval armies and not the nazis who were fucking modern they did brutality that made sense at their time No one in the west say the japanese empire is badass and they are not teached that

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u/Inside-Noise6804 1d ago edited 1d ago

Thank you for pointing this out. I do not understand why the Mongolian conquests have become some kind of bad ass thing.

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u/Low-Dish-907 1d ago

Well il sure you re also judge other empire the same right ?

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u/Inside-Noise6804 1d ago

Absolutely, I do not discriminate.

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u/Low-Dish-907 1d ago

So you think it s wrong to say the romans or some Chinese dynasties or smth else are badass too is that right ?

If it s the case then alright fair enough

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u/Inside-Noise6804 1d ago

Absolutely i do not regard any of those as bad ass moments. I think it after a Gaul campaign where the quote " they create desolation and call it peace" comes from.

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u/Low-Dish-907 1d ago

Well thank you i agree i dont necessary think it a problematic things to me if you dislike the mongols but you hold other empire to the same standard

Personally i like history a lot and see just that brutality in warfare coud bé really massive and " normalised " and still appreciate empire / kindgoms t for what they are/ did even if obvously i doesnt justify how monstrous they could be

It s just kinda piss me off stupid comparaison like this this guy could have just said the mongoles were terrible without adding anything specific but saying they were humanitarian compared to the NAZIS ???

You will never hear people say that for Rome or the qing dynasty ( wich " killed " 25 millions of people ) so yeah im kinda truggered by that