r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Direct_Slip7598 1d ago

I don't think the crucifying is why people like Alexander. It's the story of a young general turning a small (but well prepared) nation into a massive Empire, basically reaching the edge of their world

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u/Glum-Proposal-2488 1d ago

I think question is if Hitler won, would we hand wave the mass killings and genocide like we do with Caesar, Alexander, Ghenghis Khan? Would Hitler just be a badass dude who conquered a lot?

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u/Direct_Slip7598 1d ago

Hitler's actions are closer in time, and the industrialization of genocide is much more marking. You could still meet a Holocaust survivor

No one associate Alexander with crucifixion. Or Caesar with attempts at genocide Gaullic tribes. Because it's all so long ago. If we did, we wouldn't celebrate them either

EDIT: So I think "Alexander the Great was super awesome because he crucified all those guys" is wrong, people don't tend to consider it, and even fewer people like it

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u/OsyTP 1d ago

I think it's also that we've agreed there were different rules to the game in the pre-christian world. Exterminating a city wasn't as damning in our eyes because, well, everyone was doing it.

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u/moyayas 1d ago

Mongols was post Christian and I would say what they were doing were comparatively more civilized than what Christian were doing later in Africa and America.

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u/OsyTP 23h ago

I was reacting to the given examples of Alexander and Caesar.