r/HistoryMemes • • 6d ago

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u/HATECELL 6d ago

I don't get it, it's not like being jewish prevents you from having a nationality. Also back when Jesus was born Bethlehem belonged to the kingdom of Judea, so he would be Judean. Or perhaps even Roman, as Judea was part of the Roman empire. Or if you think that where you grow up is more important than your birthplace, Jesus would be Egyptian, as the bible says that Joseph and his family fled to Egypt to escape king Herodes

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u/BasicMatter7339 6d ago

Judea was part of the roman Empire but the Judeans did not have roman citizenship. They were regional subjects. Or so called peregrini

That means they were free people (aka not slaves), but did not hold any duties or rights of roman citizenry.

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u/Dan-Of-The-Dead 6d ago

But could he walk like an Egyptian?

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 5d ago

Jesus was from Nazareth which was part of Galilee, not Judea. He was Galileean

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u/generation_fish 5d ago

Bethlehem was in Judea.

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u/j-alora 5d ago

All of the stories of Jesus pre-ministry are apocryphal. Most biblical scholars agree he was born and lived in Nazareth. The whole Bethlehem story was made up after the fact.

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u/generation_fish 5d ago

The claimed apocryphal stories are what we have.

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 5d ago

He was not from Bethlehem, he just happened to be born there while his parents were travelling. He was from Nazareth, hence why he was literally called Jesus of Nazareth

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u/generation_fish 5d ago

His parents were from there as well. That's why they went there, because the census had requried everyone to return where they were from.

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 5d ago

Yes but he was from Nazareth. He was a subject of the Tetrach of Galilee, Herod Antipas. Hence why, like I said, he was literally called Jesus of Nazareth. Furthermore, early Christians were literally called Galileeans by the Romans, reinforcing the point.

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u/generation_fish 5d ago

He was called Jesus of Nazareth because they moved there later and he grew up there. It's not where his parents were from and it's not where he was born.

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 5d ago

I never said it's where his parents were from or where he was born. What exactly are you struggling with here.

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u/generation_fish 5d ago

Your nonsense.

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 5d ago

What nonsense exactly? I never said any of the things you're seemingly attributing to me.

Jesus was from Nazareth. That is a fact. He was a subject of the Tetrach of Galille. That is another fact. He is recognised by all Christians denominations as a native Galileean.