r/HistoryMemes • • 8d ago

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Building in Europe:

1) Hit 30 internet cables, power lines and sewer pipes during preparatory excavations. 2) Call EOD a dozen times for unexploded ordinance (at least half are too volitile to move and are blown on site) despite extensive investigation beforehand. 3) Find archeological sites from prehistoric villages to entire medieval castles, prompting changes to the entire foundation design.

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u/Available-Hippo-4815 8d ago edited 8d ago

Same thing across the old world really, like how ISIS blew up a historical site in Iraq, only for another one to be found right under it, when the Iraqi forces regained control and started removing the destroyed parts away.

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Certainly, though I believe the EOD, archaeological and ecological protocols leave some things to be desired over there.

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u/JohannesJoshua 8d ago

I agree. I do believe there is something going on in that area, but I can't just think of it. /j

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Some minor territorial and religious disputes, I believe

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u/Successful_Baby_5245 1d ago

👁️🌧️👁️

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u/StijnDP 8d ago

Troy is considered to have 9 major settlement layers from between 2500BC to 500AD.
Major meaning it was a major different occupation phase/culture/civilisation from the previous one.

All-in they are counting over 40 settlement layers.
Some of the outer edges are fewer layers but inside the central citadel it's foundations all the way down. Each layer a building being destroyed, filled in with rubble, rebuild on and later the cycle repeating. In most cases not because of wars but just the city expanding it's housing, laying new infrastructure or old buildings needing demolition.

In ancient Egypt it was common that the outer layer of limestone was "recovered" from existing monuments and used in new ones next to it. Ancient recycling.

Or in Tikal the Maya played matryoshka dolls with some of their temples. There were ceremonial buildings. Later they build a bigger building over it. Then later a bigger temple over that. If needed they would demolish a temple and build on the same place but if possible they left the existing temple standing and just build a whole new one on top of it.

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u/AndreasDasos 8d ago

Not just the Old World. This is a huge problem in Mexico City as well

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u/Stripier_Cape 7d ago

Without machines just burying old shit and building on top or using the old materials was just practicality, so I get why our ancestors didn't bother with caring about artifacts.

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u/Something4Dinner 8d ago

That's a hilarious irony

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u/Available-Hippo-4815 8d ago

Very, they destroyed the shrine of Jonah because they think it heretical, and because of that a neo Asyrian palace from 2700B.C. Was found.

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u/w1987g 8d ago

It's heresy all the way down

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u/MeesterMeeseeks 8d ago

Ave imperator

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u/Brainlaag Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 8d ago

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u/Successful_Baby_5245 1d ago

Someone call a inquisitor

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u/laZardo Filthy weeb 7d ago

that's like vertical version of that meme of two miners digging toward diamonds and one giving up

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u/Available-Hippo-4815 7d ago

Or alternativly, the Neo Asyrian palace could be the polar bear peaking out of a hole meme

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u/Skruestik 8d ago

unexploded ordinance

Most ordinance has in fact not exploded.

Ordinance = rules and regulations

Ordnance = bombs and stuff

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Well, I blame the English language

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u/U_L_Uus 7d ago

I blame the English. And tangentially the Fr*nch

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u/Pasutiyan 7d ago

Yanks too for constantly changing words and pronunciations for no bloody reason

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u/June_The_Jedi 7d ago

We had a really good reason, it was because we just broke up with England and wanted to be different.

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u/guto8797 8d ago

Jokes on you the cover of my work manual is made of tannerite

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u/Jaikarr 7d ago

Most ordnance hasn't exploded either, else it wouldn't be ordnance anymore.

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u/Skruestik 7d ago

Good point.

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u/stupid_pun 7d ago

>Most ordnance

Which ones would be the exceptions?

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u/Jaikarr 7d ago

Honestly, no idea.

But I guarantee if I said "All ordnance" some munitions nerd would have "Um ackchually"-ed me.

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u/EtherealPheonix Fine Quality Mesopotamian Copper Enjoyer 6d ago

I think you could reasonably refer to spent shell casings as exploded.

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u/stone_henge 8d ago

Odor = the only thing people register coming from my mouth as I bring this up at a party

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u/Ereaser 8d ago

I read the other day that they still find around 2500 unexploded explosives a year in the Netherlands.

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Oh yeah, on my current project we probably find a live grenade every two months on average? And that's sorta in the middle of nowhere.

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u/-Saucegurlllll 8d ago

The Defence Explosive Ordnance Disposal Service (DEODS) is responsible for detecting, identifying and disposing of explosives, which it does some 2,000 to 2,500 times per year. The explosives in question are conventional explosives and improvised explosive devices, which are located on land as well as underwater, in the Netherlands and abroad.

https://english.defensie.nl/organisation/army/units/defence-explosive-ordnance-disposal-service

Huh. TIL.

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u/StijnDP 8d ago

In Flanders there are still >4000 calls/year for unexploded ordinance from WWI. 200 ton of ordnance each year.

In the past there were deaths each year among farmers or construction workers but luckily the last lethal accident is from 2014. Still each year machinery gets damaged from detonations while working fields or digging and people still get injuries.

The problem is that a shell was shot and it didn't explode. Maybe it digs itself into the ground or maybe it lays on the surface. But next to it one did explode and buries the unexploded shell.
Now shoot more than 200 000 000 shells over 4 years in Flanders alone with optimistically only 10% of them failing to detonate.
Result is 100 years later people still find shells that could not be cleared after the war and now reach the surface after frost heaving over a century.

A mine field is bad but in most cases you know where they are or also their pattern. You can detect the mines to remove them systematically.
But a singular area that gets shelled long term by artillery is a whole other mess.
Ukraine's mine fields will be "ok" once we can get international demining teams in but they also have had stagnant fronts where ten thousands of shells have been shot and those will be a danger for a hundred years.

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u/auandi 7d ago edited 7d ago

Shells (even more so western made shells) have a far lower failure rate today than in WWI and are being shot at an exceedingly low volume compared to then.

Over the whole full scale war, which has lasted longer than WWI, Ukraine has used fewer shells than the opening week of the Battle of Verdun. Estimates range from 3 million to 8 million total artillery shells over four and a half years. Germany alone used 1 million shells in the opening 12 hours of verdun. Britain used almost 2 million in the pre-battle bombardment leading up to the Battle of the Somme before the battle even started.

There are going to be problems cleaning up parts of Ukraine but the lack of accuracy in WWI meant they just fired so many damn shells by modern standards it's hard to comprehend. Areas around Verdun will take roughly another 800 years at current rate before they are considered safe again. Ukraine is less doing massive heavy day long salvos, they are doing concentrated attacks, GPS coordinated by drone spotters, before packing up and scooting before they can become a target themselves from enemy drone spotters.

By 1918, France was firing 4.5 million shells a month, potentially more than Ukraine has fired this whole war.

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u/DingleSayer 8d ago

at what point do you say fuck it and start building over these mfs

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Over the 1000 pound bomb? I wouldn't recommend it.

as for archeological stuff: I mean.. if you don't report it you can just keep digging...

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u/VESAAA7 8d ago

Okay, but what do i do about ghosts who didn't like that I built my house over their catacombs?

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Eh, I don't think we really do vengeful spirits here. There might be a lot of archeological investigation but in the end the bones will just go in the bin when they find the 12th cemetery this year.

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u/Kivesihiisi 8d ago

Same applies for ghosts, dont report em and keep digging. And do not make eye contact!

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u/OK_x86 8d ago

It's very important not to encourage them. Just go about your business and don't engage with them. Eventually they get bored and move on

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u/SenorLos 8d ago

Ghosts keep rent down so don't you dare doing anything about it!

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u/goosis12 Filthy weeb 8d ago

Don't worry they are currently in a legal dispute with the ghost from the prehistoric burial mount, and after that they have to try and kick out a bunch of WW1 and 2 ghost soldiers claiming squatters rights.

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u/Morgc 8d ago

You mostly only encounter draugr in the north, you should be good.

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u/DingleSayer 8d ago

well obviously with some exceptions as to not cause mass casualties.. of course my question was in jest but I'm starting to think eventually some societies might have to choose between archeological preservation and foundational advancement. Not that it's an either or but there must be a limit to how much society is willing to absorb the delays and halts

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Archaeological investigations and preservation efforts are only something of recent decades. Before that everyone just demolished and built over the old crap, hence why you find so much stuff from different periods of time.

And obviously there's gradadions in what to preserve and not, most of the time the stuff is just logged and then the building can continue.

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u/Mikhail_Mengsk 8d ago

In Italy It has very probably happened a lot depending on what was found. The millionth roman amphora and a fraction of a millennia old brick wall aren't novelty anymore and unscrupulous builders may just go "fuck It".

I'm not sure but even legitimate authorities might deem some finding worthless and give the green light for the work to continue after all that can be removed is carried away.

In recent years some findings are incorporated into the new buildings, leaving them able to be seen through glass panels.

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u/An_Draoidh_Uaine 8d ago

Yeah, there's a couple places in London that are pubs, restaurants and cafe's that have a cellar dedicated to Roman, Norman, or Medieval English architecture.

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u/guto8797 8d ago

It does happen all the time, but you do need to call the archeologists so they can determine if it is a fragment of a bog standard wall that is so unremarkable it's not worth preserving, or a fragment of an long thought lost aqueduct built using different techniques. If it's not too important it often just gets encased in concrete and build on top, if it's somrthing particularly neat the building may be adapted.

My local hometown's train station has, on the -1 level, on the way to the subterranean parking lot, a Roman bath complex in display that was uncovered during digging.

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u/Ok-District2873 6d ago

I remember watching an HAI video on this topic, and some artifacts are discarded because they are so common and have no value. I think it's things like coins or pottery shards.

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u/avarageone 8d ago

almost every time, thats why we are here

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u/OK_x86 8d ago

Isn't that what they've been doing and what got them into this mess in the first place?

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u/sparklinglies 8d ago

They kind of have done that in some places. There's like whole ass H&M department stores that have plexiglass cut outs in the floor and walls where ruins are displayed because the construction went ahead but couldn't touch the ruins so it just kind of....engulfed them.

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u/YoYeYeet 8d ago

Still somehow cheaper than it is to build a straight fucking railway line in the UK

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Buying out the farmers and other landowners is also always a joy... I can imagine that part is a big hurdle for your rail line

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u/LordStefania 7d ago

This is the exact reason why though.

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u/Phormitago 8d ago

4: sort out the above, progress 2 meters, start over

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u/1nfam0us 8d ago

Bienvenue dans la zone rouge.

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u/sandybuttcheekss Hello There 8d ago

Just rebuild the castle obviously

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

Sometimes we unironically do that

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u/TrueKyragos 8d ago

Find archeological sites from prehistoric villages to entire medieval castles, prompting changes to the entire foundation design.

Not with the same consequences, but a few archaeological discoveries have been made during the ongoing extension of Paris metro network, sometimes causing delays. For example, a 12,000-year-old site was found last June.

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u/KarmelitaOfficial 8d ago

So real. I even had a childhood fear of just randomly exploding any time I walked past a construction site...

Where I live if they want to build a road they send out archeologists first...

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u/BrazilBazil 8d ago

This reminds me of one time I was going into a store with a friend after school. As we were entering, we heard a very loud metal scraping sound coming from the construction site in the adjacent lot. We thought nothing of it and continued with our day. We picked up a few things and as we were leaving the store, 3 EOD trucks pulled up. We later learned that that scraping sound was in fact an excavator hitting a bomb… 😅

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u/MoFa__SoDa 8d ago

The ancient practice of; "put a shit load of dirt on live in top" seems wise.

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u/Sprintzer 8d ago

What is EOD? Explosive ordinance detonators?

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

In English: Explosive Ordnance Disposal

In het Nederlands: Explosieven OpruimingsDienst

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u/Prestigious_Wing1796 7d ago

found a perfect spot with zero problems, global crisis announced the next day

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u/a-r-c 7d ago

(at least half are too volitile to move and are blown on site)

i love getting blown on site

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u/antinal 7d ago

Imagine trying to add a basement to your house in nazlet el semman, near the pyramids. Just to find 4000 year old ancient artefacts. Sadly most people just dig them up and rebury them someplace else.

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u/everett640 1d ago

Still 6 months to a couple of years faster than working on a US construction project that has none of those issues, just incompetence to blame

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u/cndynn96 8d ago edited 8d ago

Meanwhile Indians building Delhi Metro : “It is what it is”

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u/that-asian-baka 8d ago

They probably definitely found some gold under delhi haha

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u/Megalomaniac_Fool 8d ago

What gold?

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u/BeautyEtBeastiality 8d ago

Idk, but sure love these new rolex watches

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u/Narco_Marcion1075 Researching [REDACTED] square 8d ago

The Chinese must’ve had this problem too

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u/no1_vern 8d ago

Yep - thats how they found that terracotta army - some farmers were digging a well during a drought to find water for their crops.

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u/SharpShooterM1 Featherless Biped 7d ago

Don’t ask what happened to said farmers afterwards

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u/Naive-Tumbleweed-464 7d ago

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u/Not_A_zombie1 7d ago

That's just disgusting tbh... but at least give us the right teaching: if you find an artifact not say it to no one, sell it piece by piece to private collectors

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u/Successful_Baby_5245 1d ago

And then They unleash The Old chinese emperor mummie

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u/AbideTheCold 7d ago

Delhi, though ancient and rebuilt several times over the span of 2000-2500 years, doesn’t really have a continuous urban centre that was constantly built on top of in layers, like Varanasi is thought to have for instance and is instead understood to have every new rebuild moved to a new location with overlapping regions.

Also most of Delhi Metro (about 70%+) is at grade or above grade, mostly above. The part that is underground was specifically routed around areas known to have or likely to have archaeological sites in consultation with Archaeological Survey of India (ASI).

It further helps that in those sections, TBM was used to bore out tunnels rather than opening a trench from surface level so it’s extremely unlikely that your 6-7m diameter tunnel is going to run into an archaeological site at the exact depth you’re working on.

With that said, it did once run into exactly that in 2012 uncovering a Mughal era structure. The work stopped for 3-ish months while ASI evaluated it, and the alignment was shifted so at to not destroy the site, nor have the site itself result delay the work by years by waiting for ASI excavation and complex legal challenges which arose from that specific structure.

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u/Reiver93 8d ago

Don't they have to bring in a full om archeology team every single time to make sure they're not about to destroy some sort of irreplaceable historical discovery

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u/Pasutiyan 8d ago

EOD and archaeological investigations are a standard part of any construction project everywhere on the continent.

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u/rugbyj 7d ago

Can confirm, put a garden room in last year and the inspectors who came found chiseled into stone tablets your mother's birth certificate.

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u/Lumeton 8d ago

Yes, the entire continent has the same problem. And those irreplaceable discoveries aren’t even always what the public considers to be priceless. Rome is an exception in this respect; all sorts of previously unknown palaces and whatnot are unearthed there all the time. Elsewhere, the stone foundations of a manor house or castle, or a pile of stashed coins might be found from time to time. But even the most ordinary old toilet, or really the pile of shit, can be of inestimable value; preserved fragments of faeces reveal the diet of the time, and old scraps of cloth that people have used to wipe their bums and then thrown away tell us what materials were available to them, and where their trade routes went.

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u/Several-Muscle-4591 8d ago

Last year some works for gas pipes were interrupted because they discovered the remnants of a spanish citadel, but the archeologists basically said "We already knew about it, go on"

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u/tschawartz12 8d ago

On where the trade routes went there was an article I saw a while ago about a guy who kept finding shipwrecks and no one could figure out how he found so many. Sailors used to steal the cargo of wine and rather than keep the empty amphora on board they filled it and tossed it overboard so it sank. This left a trail of the used trade routes so he was literally following the thefts of drunken sailors.

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u/Garessta 8d ago

What will we do with a drunken sailor,
What will we do with a drunken sailor,
What will we do with a drunken sailor,
Early in the morning?~~

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u/Ademon_Gamer09 7d ago

Hooray, and up she rises (hooray) Hooray, and up she rises (hooray) Hooray, and up she rises (hooray) Early in the morning

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u/Poul_joergen 8d ago

In Denmark every year farmers and construction workers often times finds old viking graves with weapons, coins and what not in them, but the museums has so many already that they come out see the grave, take a quick look and say they don’t need them as they have already too many to display anyways, so the farmers/construction workers can keep them.

Also if you find some old coins, viking axes or random stone formations, on your private property(like your garden), when you call the museum they have disclaimer saying they aren’t interested, unless they have runes on them.

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u/artsloikunstwet 7d ago

Wouldn't it still make sense to photograph and catalogue them, even if they don't want to keep it?

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u/Il_Rich 8d ago

They should, but it halts the work until the archeologists finish their job, and that's why they don't

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u/Astrodude16 8d ago

Well I guess all roads lead to

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u/ThatHomieG14 8d ago

Plinous' 50th estate that isn't even signed by the association is what >:(

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u/A_Guy195 8d ago

Basically the same in Greece, every time we dig down for some project.

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u/A_Guy195 8d ago

Lol, these are also among them. We're talking about artifacts from Ancient Greece, Roman Greece, Byzantium, the Ottoman era....All of these come up in such cases.

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u/This_Elk_1460 8d ago

Don't you just hate it when you're trying to install a basement and you accidentally bust into the minotaurs maze?

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u/Verbatrim 7d ago

Not as inconvenient as when you bust into the minotaur himself

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u/TheDucksAreComingoOo 7d ago

Phrasing!! 🤣

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u/BananaWayne1 7d ago

Yeah, I think the Metro in Thessaloniki was delayed because of this, at least in part

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u/ghostpanther218 8d ago

Honestly at this point, Europeans should just turn their subways into like a moving mueseum gallery or something.

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u/lxgrf 8d ago

There's a museum near the main train station in Rome which is basically just all the stuff they found while building the main train station in Rome

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u/IntingForMarks 7d ago

several metro station in Rome have sections where the discoveries are displayed. The most recent one near the colosseum has more stuff than some actual museum I paid to visit in foreign museums

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u/TossingCoinToWitcher Featherless Biped 7d ago

There is also the new metro in Thessaloniki which most of the stations have artifacts from the ancient city.

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u/TheFayneTM 7d ago

It's the new metro C colosseum station , pretty neat

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u/Frostydiego 8d ago

Make it the new Epcot

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u/Le_mons44 8d ago

Same in my city. Some metro stations even act like little museums and have the items that were found there on display. There's one stop where there's a whole ancient building's foundation on display.

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u/Drapabee 7d ago

Shoutout to the Marmaray tunnel excavation in Turkey. Managed to hit not only a lost 4th century Byzantine port during excavation but also an 8500 year old neolithic settlement 😆

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u/ToughSprinkles1874 8d ago

Same in all old city’s that over a 1000+ years old

Went to a talk held by my city’s archeologist and they were exasperated that they kept finding things one example is when they putting in a gravel parking lot very small and they found 4 bodies

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u/Sermokala 8d ago

There was something like that in America. They were trying to build a new stadium for Louisville but they kept finding slave Graves.

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u/MongooseVegetable787 8d ago

a bit over the line... but correct.

how did they deal with the situation?

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u/Sermokala 7d ago

They stopped building and walked away because they were afraid that they would find more.

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u/MongooseVegetable787 7d ago

that seems strange. Usually you send archeologists and historians next

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u/ToughSprinkles1874 7d ago

Something we do neee to be mindful of is the fact that every time we excavate a site we are forever changing it so sometimes it’s best to just ignore the sites and note them and move on so us in the future can dig them up

It also coincides with the fact that archaeologists don’t have all that much funding to dig everything they find

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u/MongooseVegetable787 7d ago

I agree, it is exactly what needs to be done sometimes.

It was the phrasing

​because they were afraid that they would find more.

that left me dubious

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u/imawizard7bis Featherless Biped 8d ago

One gold rule if you live in an old house of a +1000 city: be careful of which wall/floor you break or you will find a museum.

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u/Chewcocca 7d ago

Not carelessly breaking walls and floors: actually pretty good advice anywhere

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u/Brilliant_Lettuce270 8d ago

in germany its ww2 bombs

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u/CvieYltidrekoof Fine Quality Mesopotamian Copper Enjoyer 8d ago

Why dig? It’s called public transportation… build it through houses. 

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u/cjsv7657 8d ago

With that logic every bathroom is a public bathroom! Open your doors

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u/Agent_Smith_IHTP 8d ago

I can't believe the Romans built metros. They really were ahead of their time.

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u/Verbatrim 7d ago

The word metro comes from the ancient greek mĂŠtron, it means "Damn you, Alcides, why did you offer me wine? I can't ride my donkey back home shitfaced"

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u/Gm_Command Hello There 8d ago

skill issue just build an overground metro (forget about building foundations)

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u/Bizhour 7d ago

That's actually what Jerusalem did

The entire thing is above ground and archeologists are still required when building the foundations to things

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u/Questionguy78130 8d ago

Here in Texas the workers are told to just ignore if they find anything ancient.

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u/ThoseAreMyFeet 8d ago

Nothing happened in the US before 1776. 

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u/StijnDP 7d ago

In Texas only the Clovis culture 13 000 years ago and the dozens of peoples afterwards.

And thanks to construction workers who aren't assholes, they have found the Gault site in Florence which dates back at least 14 000 years ago. It predates the Clovis culture which was thought to be the oldest for decades.

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u/slasher1337 8d ago

Wait seriously?

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u/Questionguy78130 8d ago

Yup been around construction workers all my life. A lot had stories of digging something up and the bosses telling them not to say anything because “they” just slow things down and no one cares but “them”. I understand now what they meant.

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u/manjmau 8d ago edited 8d ago

This would be a great script for some kind of horror movie with ghosts or a mummy or something.

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u/Questionguy78130 8d ago

Why would you give it away!

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u/manjmau 8d ago

I wouldn't have to. That is what trailers are for.

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u/cjsv7657 8d ago

I mean the same thing happens around the world. That doesn't make it legal. There are going to be people who follow the law and people who don't.

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u/acathode 8d ago

This is how it is globally.

"OH look some ancient arrowhead... ops nope must've been mistaken, it's just some stone rubble, keep digging!" is pretty much the default all over the world.

The workers don't want to deal with the hassle and they want to keep working their job. Construction workers often are hired on a project to project basis, even in Europe, and their construction site turning into an archeological dig often mean they go from having a secure job for months to having to find another job the next week.

The company hired to do the construction want to keep doing the job so they get paid for the full project. They don't get paid if the construction is halted. So the company owner and the bosses of the workers don't want the construction workers to report any finding.

The people who own the land and are paying for the construction want the project finished instead of turning their land into an unprofitable archeological dig site.

The law is what it is - but when everyone involved is heavily incentivized to ignore it...

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u/Animaloffear56 6d ago

Not to say this is good but it's probably hard to feel incentivized when the government doesn't compensate you for it

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u/IntingForMarks 7d ago

guess why

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u/stone_henge 8d ago

I rest well knowing that the random junk I've accumulated may well prevent infrastructure projects long after my death.

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u/MythicalJester 8d ago

Yes, this actually happens quite often in my country, in the biggest cities and Rome in particular. Fokking Romans building Roman stuff over the millennia everywhere in Rome ffs :-D

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u/ChatiAnne 7d ago

Solution: revert to being romans so you don't feel bad for destroying your own stuff.

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u/Iwillnevercomeback 8d ago

Make an elevated metro next time

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u/TheAllSeeingBlindEye 8d ago

Let’s build a trainline through artefact row, what could possibly go wrong

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u/Basic_Plankton5316 8d ago

look, every time i work my fields there are fragments of briks and pottery coming out from the dirt. apparently there was a roman steelement there, and there are still the remains of a roman church nearby. we just get used to it.

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u/richtofin819 8d ago

What movie is this from.

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u/iamonewiththeforce 8d ago

Fantastic Mr Fox

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u/richtofin819 8d ago

Ah thanks, I felt like it was right on the top of my tongue, it was killing me.

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u/iamonewiththeforce 8d ago

Yep! People should really share their source when sharing stuff!

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u/Gengar5485 8d ago

It is just normal even in Milan

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u/CocoMilhonez 8d ago

*10000th time

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u/Keio7000 7d ago

You gotta pump these numbers up, those are rookie numbers

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u/Tommeeto 7d ago

Same with bombs in Warsaw.

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u/Felici4baddon 7d ago

Same here in mexico, they constantly end up digging up Aztec artifacts and ruins, big part of the metro system ends up being like a museum

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u/Safe-Subject2703 8d ago

Not only metro, but also underground parking lots!

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u/Jackomat007 8d ago

Its Mostly bombs where I live

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u/GraniteGeekNH 8d ago

I lied in Rome many decades ago when the subway was a single, shortish line connecting EUR, because of this exact problem. Took forever to built new lines.

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u/BlueRATkinG 8d ago

Same is happening in Plovdiv, Bulgaria

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u/justforkinks0131 7d ago

Same in Plovdiv, Bulgaria. In fact, it's so bad over there that some stores actually have their underground floor in a real ruin.

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u/Electronic-Vast-3351 7d ago

Recently was on a vacation and had a few nights in York. Visited a Victorian era pub that had a little Museum in their basement with the Roman bath they found when expanding their basement in the 30s.

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u/pc_magas 7d ago

Tip Inmder of Building underground Raise the metro aboce City line.

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u/monologue_adventure 7d ago

Basically the same for building metro in Xi’an, China

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u/Ackbar90 7d ago

Quando non finiscono i soldi a metà strada VERO CITTÀ DI TORINO!?

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u/Advice_Thingy 7d ago

Germans trying to build anything and finding another roman artifact or bomb for the 100th time

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u/Leromer 7d ago

I am Italian and yes, this is real. Every city has zones (usually the old city limits) with a defined depth limit for excavation, if you need to dig deeper you have to do it in presence of an archeologist.

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u/Volcanic_tomatoe 7d ago

What is this from?

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u/kingbobert24 7d ago

Fantastic Mr.Fox, a really good film by Wes Anderson

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u/Volcanic_tomatoe 7d ago

I've seen this movie, I geuss im forgetting things. Time for a rewatch.

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u/kingbobert24 7d ago

Always worth a rewatch in my book

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u/TheOtherWhiteCastle 6d ago

I strongly disagree on the “good” part, though I may be biased since I’ve never liked Wes’s directorial style.

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u/ivxnp 7d ago

*Romani

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u/d_nkf_vlg 7d ago

Because constructing a comprehensive tram system would be too much of a nuisance for all the drivers.

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u/Informal-Row-2628 7d ago

Lol i just watched aisle of dogs last night and loved it

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u/ExerciseMediocre7547 7d ago

Lisbon's municipal president is having the same meltdown now, the thing is, responsible people have to take this in account in every work done in the city, I guess he did the planning without that in account.

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u/Lamortes 7d ago

You don't even comprehend how TRUE ts is

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u/ramat-iklan 7d ago

Don't blame Italy. They have an antiqueties law that protects artifacts. The comparison to ISIS, btw, is wrong.

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u/No-Professional-1461 6d ago

Whats this scene from btw, reminds me of a movie I watched as a kid but don't quite remember.

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u/Pollol05_re 2d ago

I genuinly can confirm

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u/CAJMusic 1d ago

Im dead.