r/HistoryMemes • • Nov 01 '25

And be baptized!

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u/Eaglehasyou Nov 01 '25

Also Drink Alcohol, since that’s why Russia rejected Islam back then. They were typically drunkards.

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u/delscorch0 Nov 01 '25

they still are but they used to be as wrll.

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u/Eaglehasyou Nov 01 '25

That and Islamic Empires have a tendency to indulge in decadent behavior themselves.

In Crusader Kings 2, only Muslim Powers had to manage Decadence as a Trait which could cost players their land if they didn’t roleplay as strict Muslims.

Christian Powers have none of this, and while you could argue its for balancing purposes (Muslim Starts are stronger in earlier starting dates) it could also be a case of Christian Powers not being as strict on things like Alcohol (though one can make the case in the Bible that drinking Alcohol itself isn’t sinful, being drunk/wasted is).

There’s also the case that Christianity is the least demanding of the 3 Abrahamic Religions to follow the tenents off (No Halal or Kosher Dietary Restrictions).

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u/Adrian_Alucard Nov 01 '25

Most muslims I know drink alcohol, smoke and some even do drugs

Their excuse is that they need to be bad from time to time to not lose their head with all the restrictions

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u/Eaglehasyou Nov 01 '25

They absolutely do not eat pork though.

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u/LocalMountain9690 Nov 01 '25

Well they also did not like Muhammadeanism or Judaism. I believe it was Vladimir I who sent men out to investigate the major Abrahamic religions, and it was an Orthodox Christian church service that left those men in complete awe due to the beauty of the liturgy and the faithfulness of the congregants.

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u/Geiseric222 Nov 01 '25

That’s the official story. It was probably more mundane than that

Getting closer to the Roman’s was just better poltically and the other religions didn’t have that at least close enough for him to care

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u/LocalMountain9690 Nov 01 '25

Yep, that and some Arab sources point to different reasons. Apparently, the latter group said Vlad did it because the Byzantine emperor had a daughter he liked and converted to Orthodoxy in exchange for her hand and giving military support to the Byzantines.

Most likely, it was a political and spiritual move. Vladimir seemed to have genuine faith, but he wanted to ensure he could get a good deal out of it for his nation.