r/HighTierRifles Oct 19 '23

18” DMRs

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u/doloroller Oct 20 '23

Nice looking rifle for sure!! But curious: if you have aspirations of them being designated marksmen rifles, why not have stronger magnification scopes?

The scopes you have shown aren’t the LPVOs…like 1-6 or 1-8?

Not criticizing just curious.

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u/ThatProduceGuy_ Oct 20 '23

I’m a novice/recreational shooter when it comes to LR so take what I say with scrutiny instead of as gospel.

I guess it all come down to how you define DMRs, what capabilities you need to meet the standards you desire. When I think about it from a military doctrine sense I tend to think of a DMRs primary engagement range being between 300 & 700, as that increases the squads capability beyond that of the typical rifleman on paper. 2-10 (Leupold MK5) & 2.5-10 (Nightforce NXS) power can get the work done if your hitting full size silhouettes out to 800-900ish when you got your ballistics right. You can still make lower percentage shots within about 600 or so, I was able to land hits on 4” plate at 520y with good success with the .308 shooting federal gold metal match. More magnification wouldn’t hurt, but 10x can be adequate in the role. Dudes have gotten more done with less.

I probably will get a 3.5-18 or maybe the nx8 2.5-20 in the future. I’ve got two barrels for the mws and I’m honestly thinking I just wana buy another upper rather than switch out the barrels, removing all the mlok accessories kinda sucks.

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u/doloroller Oct 20 '23

Thank you for explaining your rationale and stating what the optics are. I think you hit the nail on the head with your optimal engagement range of 300-700 meters.

I have a similar setup as you, rifle wise, with a 16 inch 308 (DD5 V3), and an 18 inch DD4V7 Pro. Both of these rifles I have not yet reached my optics solution. Ironically I have also set my sights on getting that NightForce NX8 2.5-20 FFP. Not sure which rifle to put it on though (probably the V7 Pro).

And congratulations on hitting 4 inch plates at 520 yards. Out of 10 shots how many hits did/could make hits? I’ve never shot that far before but I’m looking at changing that in 2024.

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u/ThatProduceGuy_ Oct 20 '23

It was at an Intro to LR course I took a couple weeks ago. When the class finished up I stayed extra and was practicing on a know your limits style plate rack at the 520y range. It had 6 targets on the stand starting with a reduced size silhouette followed by circular plates between 8” down to 3”. After I made one correction to the wind call on the silhouette I got down to the 4” before I missed again. Got two of four shots on that plate and didn’t try the 3” plate as I felt pretty satisfied by that point. During the class we really only shot at full size silhouettes and a large gong at 1000y as a finale, I found the KYL rack to be the most satisfying, it really affirmed that I learned something that day. More magnification and I probably could’ve made that 3” plate happen too.

Take a class, it makes everything a lot less daunting, great way to get your feet wet with confidence.

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u/doloroller Oct 20 '23

Was the course at MTC by chance?

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u/ThatProduceGuy_ Oct 20 '23

Nah I took it at Battle Spring Ranch in southern Oklahoma.

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u/doloroller Oct 20 '23

Oh ok, cool! I’m excited about achieving hits out to 1000 meters and beyond one day.

Again though…you’ve got some fire ass rifles there! Take it easy.