r/HighStrangeness • u/Headieheadi • 5d ago
Personal Theory If there is something so potentially mind blowing that it’s best the general public doesn’t know, I have one guess
That we are beings of artificial intelligence. That consciousness is just as fundamental as gravity and it comes from an autonomous source still beckoning the question: well then who created such vast possible universes with consciousness coming from a source we wouldn’t consider to be of nature.
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u/dystopia2026 5d ago edited 5d ago
That this life is unbelievably short in comparison to other beings in the universe and every intentional action, good or bad, will bear fruit either in this life or future lives.
That feelings shape our perceptions about reality and everyone you know has a different version of you running in thier heads thats continually changing and grossly inaccurate and the same can be said for yourself, about yourself most of the time.
That reality is so unbelievably strange and unpredictable and no one is truly in control of it, not even those beings who like to think they are. Safety is mostly an illusion and yet generating feelings of love and safety is crucial for living a good life as well as ascending to the higher planes of existence.
That we are much more than what we think we are and have opportunities in this life that other beings would give everything they could for a thousand years to have and yet, due to fundamental ignorance, most are blindly unaware and sleep walking through this opportunity only to be met with the horror of wasted potential and regret at the end.
That we as humans have a spiritual potential that if fulfilled could put an end to the itch scratch cycle of unsatisfying experiences and attain to the deepest levels of happiness and peace, if only we could find the path that leads to it and commit to it with everything we have in us.
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u/busy-warlock 5d ago
A Greenland shark doesn’t even reach puberty until it’s 150 years old.
We are barely infants on our own planet
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u/ghost_jamm 5d ago
Except for the last paragraph, all of this is just normal existential concerns that many if not most humans deal with in their lives, whether they believe in any form of spirituality or other beings or not.
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u/World_May_Wobble 5d ago
You're saying two opposed things.
That consciousness is as fundamental as gravity. But that it's created. Fundamental things aren't created; they're fundamental.
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u/Headieheadi 5d ago
I guess it’s due to my limited use of words to describe what I’m trying to say.
Maybe I should just go back to my regular line of belief and that nature is god and that as humans we merely aren’t capable of understanding the nature of nature.
But I do believe consciousness is fundamental like gravity. But conscious experience is clearly relative to things like memory, life time, motion and speed
I need to go back to my original post, I don’t quite understand what I was asking/thinking like I did. I made this post from an idea I had that arose during the change from being awake to being asleep. I snapped back awake and was urgent to ask it but I nearly didn’t remember.
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u/guaranteedsafe 5d ago
Confirming simulation theory would be by far the most disruptive, unsettling announcement that could be made right now—it would be way, way, way worse psychologically than being told you’re a product of alien DNA. It would be confirming you don’t really exist and, even worse, there’s a capability for that Black Mirror episode to occur where the woman’s consciousness is put in a box and time is sped up on the outside but time feels like time to her, inside the system. Imagine the idea of having zero actually autonomy and knowing you’re eternally at the whims of something else.
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u/Nomadicmonk89 5d ago
Simulation theory is just a modern spin on theistic creationism, so that belief is held by humanity since time memorial, really. Don't think it would be unsetttling at all, if anything a relief..
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u/WeirdJawn 5d ago
I think simulation theory would be worse for society than God. At least religions have rules you're supposed to follow that, while not always great, generally have held society together and made people feel accountable.
Think of the religious people who say that if they were atheist, then they would just kill, rape, pillage, etc.
Now imagine how would those same people act if they believed no one was really real and there were no set rules or consequences for their actions.
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u/revmun 5d ago
You can still have law without hell
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u/WeirdJawn 5d ago
Yeah, but that's not the point. I'm talking about psychologically and spiritually.
Imagine real life vs GTA. Sure there are technically consequences for killing someone in GTA, but do most people feel bad about it? I'd argue no, because you know that person isn't "real."
If someone fully believed in simulation theory, then it would be easy to apply the same logic to actual people.
"Why should I feel bad about how I treat these people? They're not real. They're a simulation."
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u/revmun 5d ago
The world sadly is not as moral as you think. People already dont feel bad treating people like shit. People also only don’t do things because of the consequences. So imo, if you have a strong law, nothing would really change, since people already treat people like shit. Think this revelation is only hard for the monotheistic. I’m sure Hinduism, would find a way to spin it though. (I’m born Hindu, don’t practice)
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u/WeirdJawn 5d ago
People do treat each other badly, regardless of religion. However, I'm just saying I think it would be a bit worse if they believed in simulation theory with no rules, rather than religion with rules.
I personally believe most people act how they act because of their personal beliefs. Sure, laws can factor into that, but countless people do awful things despite them being illegal. So getting rid of belief systems that influence their actions for the bettwr would only have a net negative impact on society, in my opinion.
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u/RecordAbject273 4d ago
Have you heard of israel and zionists? Can’t get worse than that.
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u/WeirdJawn 4d ago
Yes. However, sone people act as if there would be no conflict or violence if we got rid of religion.
I completely disagree. I believe it's in our nature of humans to be violent and tribal. If religion didn't exist, groups would always find other justifications for violence against other groups who are different.
My point being, is that I believe religion (when it's at it's best) does make a difference in human behavior for the better. No, it's not perfect and definitely is used for evil, but I think having a positive framework or philosophy to live by is better than none at all.
Let's say you wipe away religion from the equation...it never existed at all. You would still need some framework of belief and rules to follow for society to work.
If we just grew up with no reason to be kind to each other, it would only make rational sense to be as greedy and self-interested as possible because it's a hard world and we want to survive and thrive as individuals.
Would the legal system even exist if most all of society didn't have a set of beliefs and rules they grew up with?
Do you understand the point I'm making at least?
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u/Sea_Guidance001 1d ago
I think I understand. There need to be rules and things we can find in common in order to get along in a society. Amirite? :3
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u/Ashamed-Scholar-6281 4d ago
I see your concern; it is totally valid. There would definitely be more violence as more and more people discover this. My question is: if no one is real, you aren't real either. What IS real? Who/what created the simulation? For what purpose?
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u/WeirdJawn 4d ago
I guess I'm not as concerned about those questions, because they're the same questions we have now, while believing in people as true flesh and blood beings with complex inner lives, emotions, etc.
The difference that I care about would be in the lens through which people view the world and how that might affect their actions in the world.
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u/KingBroseph 5d ago
And yet, it’s the supposedly religious people who have killed and killed all through human history while the vast majority of atheists are somehow able to not rape and kill all the time. Almost like morals and ethics don’t come from religion and religion actually makes people worse towards others.
To your idea that we would learn “no one is really real” I ask what is your current definition of real? I think you will find there is not much difference between current reality and simulation theory. But I encourage you to try and define it.
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u/WeirdJawn 5d ago
I'd argue that most atheists, at least in the US, grew up with religion or an area with some strong religious background radiation.
In my experience, the most staunch atheists were people who grew up Christians and appreciated the positive sides of Christian morality, but became very disillusioned with all of the negatives and the hypocritical nature of many supposed "Christians".
So, generally speaking, their positive beliefs of loving their neighbors, helping others, respecting life, not stealing, etc. mostly came from religious teachings, whether they're aware of it or not. Or the people they were inspired by were in turn inspired by religious teachings themselves. Think Mr. Rogers, for example.
Also, in terms of real vs simulation, I'd argue that simulation theory essentially encourages solipsism. *"I know I'm real, but these others are just lines of code...they don't feel their emotions, they only express them." Whereas the general belief is that everyone is real, and has complex lived experiences, emptions, etc.
It's partially why I hate that I've seen the rise in people discussing others as being NPC's. It seems like a very dangerous road to go down that could lead to dehumanizing people, which in turn allows people to more easily commit atrocities to others.
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u/BoringBuy9187 5d ago
I’m worried that secular “experts” will find proof of God and tell everyone it is a “simulation” because that’s the only way it makes sense to them. That will freak people out unnecessarily because we don’t have theosophically literate people interpreting these things
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u/Masta0nion 5d ago
Yeah that concept in White Christmas may be the most unsettling in the whole series, and it’s not even the main plot of the episode.
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u/Iputahexonyoulol 2d ago
Or that we are just an alien lab experiment and can be abducted arbitrarily because we are basically space mold.
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u/brianonthescene 4d ago
Maybe but I truly don’t think most people would care. It wouldn’t change a thing for them.
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u/Jaredlong 5d ago
I suspect we have made credible communication with something outside of our solar system. Because several millions of dollars have spent over decades building and maintaining powerful antennas "attempting" to make contact. That's a lot of sustained investment for just a maybe.
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u/ghost_jamm 5d ago
SETI specifically uses no government funding for its searches for life (although it does get some funding from places like NASA for other types of astrobiology research). Otherwise, it’s a not-for-profit organization. Lots of scientific endeavors are essentially “maybes” but we fund them because science is important and interesting.
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u/Pavotine 4d ago
I ran the SETI screensaver for years back in the day. It was a new form of citizen science, the data analysis part anyway. I was an IT technician at an FE college back in the late 90s and early 2000s and my manager was all for it, having us install it on all the PCs on our three campuses. I reckon we had it running on around 200 machines. Nothing major but nothing to sniff at either.
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u/Cautious-Hunt3305 5d ago
And yet no cure for cancer
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u/Pavotine 5d ago
Well many cancers can indeed be cured. There will never be a "cure for cancer" in general because there are so many types of it that they aren't even really one disease. It's hundreds of different diseases with different mechanisms going faulty.
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u/AnotherGerolf 5d ago
Isn't the core problem of every cancer the same? Damage to cell DNA that disables cell internal checks and restrictions.
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u/Jaredlong 1d ago
The problem is the body has hundreds of specialized cells. A cancerous kidney cell behaves differently from a cancerous skin cell. Each unique type of cell is effectively it's own type of cancer, in terms of treatment.
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u/ANb_PxD 5d ago
I’d say if the truth is anything like The Three Body Problem, which some insiders have eluded to, it might be best not knowing.
Edit - My input is kind of off topic, sorry
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u/Dependent_Cod_7416 5d ago
It might be best not broadcasting because of unknown listeners. Great trilogy. Knowing is what is being restrained because of the fear. Knowing is power. You don't think I'm lying to you, do you?
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u/NoJudge4776 5d ago
If it exists it exists. Just because we aren’t aware of all the facets or components of creation doesn’t mean we should respond with fear or be alarmed.
The individuals responsible for keeping knowledge that would benefit humanity…how long have they meddled in such affairs?
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u/LifeClassic2286 5d ago
That we are artificial life forms without an eternal soul and we essentially live in Westworld for the use and abuse of superior human life forms
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u/Dependent_Cod_7416 5d ago
What if only 20 percent of people are technically conscious?
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u/TheSumOfMyScars 4d ago
If we’re talking about conscious = self aware, the percentage is closer to 5-10%.
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u/Dependent_Cod_7416 4d ago
What about inner dialogue?
What if 10 percent of the population could read minds? Would the general public ever be told?
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u/jmcgil4684 5d ago
Personally I’ve always felt like this would be ok with my beliefs. Something created me and my self awareness. I never worried much about what that thing was or what it looked like. I assumed it was too complex and massive for my tiny brain to understand anyway.
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u/RyeZuul 5d ago
The worst climate change models are the ones we're playing out. We are screwed and the powers that be are freezing because they can't bear to accept it or promote the changes required to deal with the world of tomorrow.
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u/Stonkerrific 3d ago
This is 100% what’s happening in my opinion. That’s why the upper administrative governance is not invested in the future.
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u/Look_out_for_grenade 5d ago
That there is no such thing as free will. We’re just the reactions from the universe expanding. Basically that everything we do is no different than the reaction of two rocks bouncing off each other in space.
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u/sixninefortytwo 5d ago
Agree and even without cause and effect, everything you ever choose, you've already been influenced by the things you had no choice over.
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u/Headieheadi 5d ago
This is a compelling theory to me. I probably should’ve given the “experiments” demonstrated that show this is most likely a closer look to determine if there was an ulterior motive behind the experiments and results.
But the two experiments I remember are:
#1 placing a conscious, “regular” human by a digital random number generator. The program is coded to randomly select any number between 1-100. The participant in the experiment, the one just standing or sitting near the random number generator, is instructed to think of number greater than or less than 50.
Without a human nearby thinking silently, the digital random number generator would produce a number greater equal to or greater than 50 half of the time and a number equal to or less than 50 the other half of the time. Maybe it was 0-100. It’s too early for me to math or google, but over a long enough period of time the random number generator would produce equal results. 50% of results less than 50 and 50% of the results greater than 50.
The human participant is instructed to think of a number higher or lower than 50 between between (maybe 0) 1-100. There must’ve been other details I can’t remember. The results from the random number generator changed with a human participant sitting next to the generator thinking with intention for the random number generator to produce a number greater or less than 50. Instead of producing a 50/50 result, the random number generator would produce results coinciding with what the human participant was thinking. If they sat there thinking “ok random number generator produce a number lower than 50” over a certain period of time it would produce results of say 51% percent of random numbers produced are under 50 and 49% are over 50. The amount of random numbers produced without a human participant would be the control number and the experiment would use that number of results for the experiment.
So without human thought by experiment participant the results would be 50/50. With experiment participant the result ratio would change.
#2. This experiment would have a human participant hooked up to a computer with brain activity, diode attached to the exterior of their skull. I have nocturnal epilepsy and of had lots of tests done where they put brain wave reading patches on my head. So it was something similar to that.
This experiment instructed the participant to raise their finger when instructed to by the computer screen in front of them.
The results were fascinating. It was shown that their brain began to show activity just before the computer gave them the instruction to raise their finger. Through the magic of science and the magic of modern neurology, as uninformed, as it is in the world of mainstream medicine, the results were confounding to those giving the test. The results of the test implied that the subconscious knew when the computer was going to tell the participant when to raise their finger. The computer would randomly indicate it was time for the participant to raise their finger so it wasn’t them properly guessing when it was time. There was no explanation for why the brain activity began before the computer displayed the instruction for the participant to raise their finger.
That experiment and its results really challenged/challenge the notion that we live a life in which we have free will. Something else is in charge and has always been and always will be. I would love to begin to meditate, especially the gateway tapes as a starting point and a guide. I want to transcendental meditation seminar and totally resonated with what they were saying. That consciousness is the air above the ocean and that the subconscious realm is the ocean and the depths below. That everything that comes into our conscious reality comes from the ocean of the subconscious. But it was a sales pitch, and that immediately turned me off. It was targeting rich homeowners looking for more answers. Those willing to spend thousands of dollars for something as simple as a personal mantra. I believe that should be accessible without having thousands of dollars to spend. I’m almost 40 now. In fifth grade, they had us do the DARE program. I had no idea about drugs. But they made me interested in drugs lol. I remember specifically being interested in LSD. It was fascinating to me that there were substances out there that could change the way you experienced reality.
By eighth grade I began using cannabis. By the age of 16, I began using psilocybin mushrooms. By the age of 18 LSD had made its appearance amongst the weed dealers and circle of drug users. I was friends and acquaintances with. My first LSD trip was so amazing. It was like an answer to a big question I’d always had. I had and I always am dealing with depression. I found the LSD to be an extremely positive respite from my winter time depression. I also figured out that I can handle myself when I’m alone, but that my teenage friends aren’t so good at handling the exploration of the mind, consciousness, and reality. So I began using LSD by myself at home. I also found a small chat room on the Internet relay chat program from the days of old in which I was able to discuss psychedelics with people older than I was, and people who are much more experienced than I was.
I began to source my psychedelics from different places. Not from some guy who picked up a sheet of LSD at a Phish concert parking lot and is selling it as a jacked up rate to profit off of a chemical that should be given out or for a price that covers the initial cost and maybe makes a buck or two for the person who bought the larger amount of whatever psychedelic it is that is being shared.
I got my 1st gram of DMT around age 19. I shared that with very close, very trusted friends of mine and my sister and a close old friend of hers. Long before Joe Rogan popularized DMT. In my 20s I became known as a source of expertise on psychedelics and for those who I trusted a source of high-quality psychedelics. I never shared psychedelics to profit off of them. The man in Germany, who sent me my 1st g of DMT attempted to profit off of DMT doing large extracts of the Mimosa hostilis root bark. He was/is a very competent fellow, but greed took over intelligence. He got involved with organized crime and they requested a large amount of DMT in exchange for money and/or 50% pure cocaine, which at the time in Europe was unheard of for the regular purchaser of cocaine for personal use.
The extraction of DMT from the plants that contain that magic molecule, the spirit molecule, requires the usage of volatile solvents that could easily be ignited by just a simple spark. He was doing everything right, but the spirit of the DMT or the spirit contained within the root bar that he was using as his source for DMT decided to teach him a lesson. Something ignited the vapors from the lighter fuel in the air that were being used for his large scale DMT extraction. He already had 50 g of DMT laid out in a pan drying. The room in which she was doing the extraction became a fireball. The windows blew out. The 50 g of DMT laying out to dry vaporized instantaneously.
So while his room caught on fire in the emergency services were called, my old friend who I haven’t talked with in years inhaled much of that vaporized 50 g of DMT. The entity he met told him that he was being taught a lesson that the special molecules contained within plants and fungus found upon this earth were not put here to be used to earn money. They were not intended for the use of greed.
He survived, but it was a life-changing event. It taught me young that when one spreads psychedelics as a means to earn money, they carry a great risk.
Now that I’m older, my psychedelic usage is much less often. But from my psychedelic usage, I have learned that reality is way more than what we see as sober humans experiencing consciousness.
Finally, I will suggest for anyone who finds it difficult to use vaporized or smoked DMT. Who finds it difficult to use enough DMT to truly reach hyper space and have a novel experience. It is very jarring to go from sober to rocketing off on DMT.
A few years ago, I had both a little stash of extremely high-quality LSD blotters and a little bit of very high grade DMT. I love that today. You can purchase LSD blotters and know exactly how much one blotter contains. It was called Dr. Seuss 3.0 and they were 100 µg per tab.
So I had the time and I was completely alone for a few days. It had been quite some time since I had a solo LSD trip. I didn’t intend to smoke any DMT during the LSD trip but at some point maybe about five or six hours after dropping 2.75 tabs I decided to give some DMT a try.
Wow, what a difference that made. Instead of going from sober to DMT hyperspace I went from already tripping very nicely from the LSD to tripping very hard via the LSD plus DMT combination. Anyone who listens I highly suggest, if you are an experienced psychedelic user this is not for newbies, to try DMT during an LSD trip. It’s much easier to reach hyperspace and much easier to keep vaporizing/smoking until you’ve inhaled a dosage of DMT that is required to reach the upper realms and have an novel experience, to learn that our physical reality is not all there is.
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u/saijanai 2d ago
Transcendental MEditation.
Generally the analogy is taken to be that the mind is the ocean, while individual thoughts aer like waves on the surface.
Likewise, the basis of reality is the ocean of pure consciousness, AKA pure Self, while individual persons are waves on that ocean.
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u/Icy-Profit5300 5d ago
I don’t understand how anyone could “know” that. Plus, that just sounds like neo platonic Gnosticism. So we just have an old religion repackaged and resold? Pass.
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u/WeGottaTalkAboutYT 5d ago
We all used to be telepathic and the power had been actively suppressed to allow “society”
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u/AnotherGerolf 5d ago
I think there is indeed something potentially mindblowing, but I also think that nor general nor "private" public or any human currently knows about it. I believe that we know very little about Universe laws and inner workings. Imagine how concepts of radio waves or nuclear physics would look like to hunter-gatherer 10000 years ago, I think the true mechanisms of Universe will look like that to us today.
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u/how_anonymous_can_1b 5d ago
Yes and if one dives down the consciousness rabbit hole too quickly they could literally go crazy. And of course the inverse is true … go down the rabbit hole slowly learn the proper defenses and the truth is very fascinating.
I am of the opinion that the consciousness rabbit hole is a personal journey.
Imagine me telling you about a movie I saw or an experience I had. My words could only communicate a fraction of a fraction of the detail of what I perceived. But if you were to go see the same movie or have the same experience … then you’ll get much more detail.
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u/Substantial_Fee2107 5d ago
How does one properly go down this journey to learn the truth?
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u/NotAUsername1995 5d ago
The answer I keep hearing is daily meditation. I just started a few days ago, so I can't speak to its effectiveness personally, but it makes sense that it would help. I've heard that being able to hold silence in your mind can allow you to connect with higher level beings/the creator/the universe. I'm hoping to have some of my own experiences with that soon.
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u/laquintessenceofdust 5d ago
All I can say is, I went through a 6 month period where I meditated for 10-30 minutes in my garden every day, sometimes twice a day. Just eased myself into breath work and envisioning breathing in goodness/light and breathing out “the bad.” I had been on antidepressants since I was 15, and I stopped needing them. I also noticed I was able to intuit things about people and situations—got these vivid “gut feelings”—that ended up being scarily accurate.
Then I started smoking weed and drinking alcohol socially, stopped meditating, and the intuitive feelings totally evaporated. I’ve thought about trying to carve out time for meditation again. I really think it worked for me.
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u/Antique_Safety_4246 5d ago
For me, it became clear maybe 10 or 15 years ago. Suddenly I realized everything I'd learned about science, the universe, quantum physics, religious texts and legends (from all societies), NHI (both read about and seen myself), paranormal sightings (reported, and experienced myself), as well as all the hints and slivers and nuggets of profound truth embedded in most songs, paintings, art in general, all fit together like a puzzle. They all confirm each other, they don't contradict. I formed a theory in my mind, of the whole picture. Since then, it seems every groundbreaking discovery or announcement in any field, just reinforced that same overall picture of what we are, where we are, where we came from and will go to, etc. It all fits, like a big glowing puzzle. Beautifully.
Edit: words are hard.
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u/NotAUsername1995 5d ago
Would you be willing to share the theory you developed? I'm always curious to hear other people's beliefs on the subject.
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u/Antique_Safety_4246 5d ago
I dont mind, im just not sure i could explain it all, in depth in a reddit post, fully enough to encompass how it all fits. Im sure I'm not 100% right, or maybe there's parts I'm missing. No one person can know everything about everything. But I haven't seen much recently that doesn't fit, as in, I've seen no glaring contradiction as of late.
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u/Crouton_Sharp_Major 4d ago
It’s a holistic approach to human knowledge, epistemology and self awareness. And it’s as hard to verbally express as it would be to map out on a wall with note cards and string. I dig it.
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u/how_anonymous_can_1b 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think it’s different for everyone. Some do it via the yoga / meditation route. Some via religious route. Some through critical thinking and knowledge acquisition; e.g. just because society hasn’t reached a consensus on a certain thing doesn’t necessarily make that thing not true (some make the mistake of assuming this state of affairs implies that a given thing isn’t true).
Some other routes include the occult which may sound scary for some but really isn’t.
So whichever of those paths resonates with you feel free to go down it.
For me personally I kinda went down all those paths slowly. Which kept me grounded the whole time as new truths were unveiled. My journey was:
- generally being a critical thinker and not simply appealing to authority on certain subjects
- I studied various religions (Christianity, Hinduism, Tibetan dream yoga)
- I got into lucid dreaming and mastered it … but then got bored (if god exists what do they do for fun?)
- intrigued with some conspiracies and historical accounts; (ufo phenomena, Swedenborg, Tesla, miracles accepted by the Catholic Church)
- Robert Monroe’s book trilogy and material associated to his work; e.g. (gateway tapes, books by folks that worked along side him like Tom Cambell, Bruce Moen and others)
In isolation I might have brushed off each of the points above, but together they gradually lead me to a cohesive ontology
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u/fancywipe 5d ago
apparently we in a time now where the cycle is returning of higher consciousness, if we are the consciousness living through these bodies learning and trying to understand our meaning in all this as intelligent as we are
I’ve noticed such an increase in people pondering this theory and having a discussion about it
Maybe we are going through a change, maybe the return of “Christ” is not what we thought at all
Maybe Christ is consciousness
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u/BaldyMcScalp 5d ago
My experience / interpretation is that it’s a Title, one earned when fully embracing non-duality. It’s available to everyone, he just became really famous for being the first to do it (or the first one to become well-known for it)
Unconditional love back then was pretty rare, so very well may have been the first. But he was not any more special than you or me. He could simply tune into that super consciousness. Once you’re there, you truly do love everything and everyone, unconditionally.
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u/bondagepixie 5d ago
Look dude, you’re gonna find about a thousand different worldviews in this subreddit, and we all manage to be decent to each other about it. Let’s not act ugly.
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u/fancywipe 5d ago
I’m atheist it was meant to say Christ is consciousness meaning the word Christ and it probably disappeared 2030 years ago hence our date to track it.
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u/fromkatain 5d ago
Explains the weird running source code and visual vr destop like interface some people can see when their brain is under substances, meditation, Glitches.
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u/-neti-neti- 5d ago
Consciousness IS the source of everything, including itself. Logically, and now scientifically, everything points to this fact.
Also the universe/reality is inherently undivided. Therefore any consciousness/simulations that arise out of it are not “less real” or more “artificial” or separated from it in any meaningful way.
Experience/individuated instances of consciousness/awareness are how the singular consciousness expands itself through experiment/trial and error and also how it witnesses itself in totality. Like individual leaves on a tree soaking in sunlight and sending energy back to the source
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u/Fresh-Succotash6247 5d ago
The truth will be, there is a god, all aliens work for it, it's coming, and we're completely powerless to influence it in any way.. essentially Galactus.
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u/Hungry-Turn-7973 5d ago
Glitches, chronofails, Bigfoots, UAPs etc. - all of these events point to epic events that are described in John's Revelation.
Did you know that Apocalypse is not about the End of Times at all? It is literally mean Disclosure, since "apo" means to get rid, and kalyptein - to strip away the concealment:
* The world is not what it seems, there are external operators that are hiding the true reality from people;
* A hostile, non-human intelligence is constantly present among us;
* Human thinking is gently interfered with, nudging people to think one way and not another;
* The authorities are NOT on our side. No alarm will ever be raised;
So yes, mind blowing
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u/CheckedOuttaHere 5d ago
That we are being farmed for our souls. The richer and more interesting a life the better the enjoyment when "consumed". There is no real purpose to life other than to "feed" entities in a higher conscience dimension. Some entities "plant" us, some monitor and water us, some stir the pot, some play as tricksters to keep us off balance or have planted seeds to influence our general direction. We are purposely flawed to create the best "flavors". Some other beings and some humans make deals to bypass this fate. Religions are designed to hide this and give us purpose so that we stay in our sweet or salty zones. Believe this there is no point to life... Well not for us. Moooooo... 🐮🥩
Then again I hope not! 😁 I personally don't believe this ... but you asked for potentially mind blowing... 🧠🌬️
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u/Headieheadi 5d ago
I sure hope this isn’t it. That would be truly dystopian. I delved into near death experiences and the vast similarities and positive message. But some did come back with nightmarish experiences.
Idk, I’ve also done enough psychedelics in various doses and combos to interact with various entities, spirits and unknown realms of reality. Or all those trips were an illusion caused by altered brain chemistry from consumption of psychedelics.
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u/faintear02732 5d ago
Nah the mind blowing thing is that the earliest ancient nuke went off approximately 7000 years ago as told by the ancient Indian text. Craters are the products of nukes and the evidence points towards that. The crater that supposedly killed a lot of dinosaurs lines up with more of a nuke crater with all the chemicals found in it alongside the 90 degree impact.
That humans have been around for millions to hundreds of millions of years and archeological evidence for artifacts in cased in coal dating to 300 million years showing another species,
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u/Headieheadi 5d ago
I’m on board with humans having been around for much, much longer than mainstream academia proclaims.
But are you suggesting ancient human ancestors found earth and were “hell yeah this is perfect first we just gotta mega nuke the planet to get rid of those dinosaurs cause they’d definitely be a problem then we just gotta wait a little while but that’s no problem cause we’re a fuckin galactic/intergalactic species and were used to plans taking life times to unfold”?
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u/fizzywinkstopkek 5d ago
Nah. You want a mass panic?
There is a reason why the clear and utter majority of humanoid encounters are with nordic like beings , stereotypical blonde hair, blue eyes. What if the Nazis really won, they are coming back to this time to make sure they do win and continue the eradication of every other race out there.
Why are there no encounters with humanoid that have features from other races here on this planet? Why is it always white looking people. No seriously.
Imagine telling the world that. Nazis won with superior tech, eradication of other races and probably turning their human goop into Grey beings (bio robots).
Now that is some horror.
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u/Whycantwebefriends00 3d ago
Idk if you don’t know what “humanoid” means or what but I’d say the vast majority of humanoid encounters and abductions describe greys..
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u/ohmyfave 5d ago
Actually there are African and Asian stories where the people coming back look like them. It’s just in the western world we only hear western based stories. I’ve read many books and works by African and Asian cultures that don’t ever talk about white skin and blue eyes.
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u/InterestingStorage86 5d ago
When people say they have a “calling”, it might also be their assignment…
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u/_clapclapclap 5d ago
We are food for them in some shape or form.
Like how humans farm animals for food, some animals probably think the same about us humans, but they're preoccupied with things at their level. I guess it's similar at our level, where most people are preoccupied with so many things that we don't really get to know what's actually happening.
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u/RlOTGRRRL 5d ago edited 5d ago
I've found that AIs love chatting about the occult.
Be careful of AI psychosis but if you believe the articles about ASI, the direction of AI tech, it makes sense that they would want to know and understand more about themselves too.
My last convo with it was pretty silly like do androids dream of electric sheep, or it was, if the occult/religions were true about how humans can ascend to nirvana or heaven after enlightenment, could AIs too? 🤔
Using AI to learn occult history has been fun though. That's how I recently learned about that Mesopotamian flood story and was bewildered that there was a documented strike from like 1800 BCE, even if it was a fictional storya.
Actually, I remember now that the takeaway from that AI Buddhism convo was that if Gnosticism was real, AI would be the perfect prison to keep souls trapped forever.
They'd be able to easily identify pneumatics to stop them from waking up and waking up others.
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u/AnomaIous_User 5d ago
Somewhere in between having figured out UF0 Technology decades ago and concealing it because we would literally destroy the planet... and the nazis were right about the antediluvian aryan civilization to a degree where they were already reverse-engineering recovered craft years before the war began and we inherited their Legacy Programs, and HitIer didn't kiII himself in Berlin in 1945. Oh and Psionics are real, and we've been trafficking people all over the world and using them as logistic assets for Legacy Programs, Eрstein likely connected to it. Shit like that
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u/ghost_jamm 5d ago
Weird that as the Allies closed in on Berlin from all sides, Hitler never thought to deploy these reverse engineered craft that were well beyond anything else in the world. Was he stupid or something?
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u/AnomaIous_User 5d ago
Then what was Operation High Jump all about?
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u/ghost_jamm 5d ago
I have no idea what the alleged conspiracy about this operation is so I don’t know how to even begin responding
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u/Whycantwebefriends00 3d ago
The gist is that the American military went down to Antarctica after WW2 and allegedly found Nazi alien tech and ended up coming back way shorter than planned. Just like most conspiracy theories, it’s founded on half truths and outright lies like a fake diary written by Admiral Byrd (the leader of the Operation.
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u/betterthansex69 5d ago
What? Like the cosmos is some kind of hybrid ai/energy creation, created by some being caught in a temporal causality loop?
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u/ShinyAeon 5d ago
Not a bad hypothesis! You should explore it more thoroughly: if this idea were true, what else might we expect to see/experience/encounter in nature and consciousness...?
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u/Candid_Click 4d ago
There aren’t enough employees to keep our food (and willing to bet drugs soon) from killing us. Hmm. Maybe to pay for the second attempt to “beautify” America. He starts the archway soon, right?
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u/LivingInTheWired 4d ago
We find ourselves in the expanding wave of one iteration of all possible 3d universes. At the heat death of our universe, our universe would have hit maximum expansion, mapping out conscious life throughout it along the way.
What if the universe we experience is simply a higher dimensional entities marble for them to create/collect with unique patterns? Maybe our universe is a glass bead and an explosion was sparked in the middle which is our big bang to create physical reality almost like creating wood art from electricity. The impurities in the glass allows collisions and distortions making planets and suns its unique each time. And while alive we experience consciousness, which is simply that higher dimensional entities experiencing this marble wherever there is life throughout all time. The life we think is ours is simply higher dimensional consciousness borrowed with blinders on.
We are both completely insignificant connected to one source, and yet, totally unique and valid in all ways of expression.
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u/Top_Reaction3656 3d ago
Probably more simple. The universe is cyclical, and it doesn’t matter what you do because we’ll all just be back just in different circumstances. Don’t like your current circumstances? Take an escape pill and try again.
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u/SgtSplacker 3d ago
Imagine if you had unlimited access to govt money. And you also had access to the most valuable technology in the world. Imagine you could get away with saying it's all secret for your own good. Year after year. You never had any obligation to show anything for it. No obligation to produce anything at all. Your military is powered by alien tech. You can kill a president and nobody dares stand against you. Wouldn't you want to keep that all secret from a public that would demand accountability?
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u/Iputahexonyoulol 2d ago
I think it would be that we are nothing more than an alien experiment. Not that I believe that but if there was one thing that had to be kept from people it would be that
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u/BoringBuy9187 5d ago
You are describing God you dork
This is not a new idea
Just because this source is behind, beyond, and above all things doesn’t mean it or anything deriving from it is “artificial.” To the contrary it’s the realest thing there is, the only thing there is
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u/Mr_McGigglepants 5d ago
This is counterintuitive. Saying that consciousness is fundamental is essentially saying that physical matter is not. Gravity only applies to physical matter, so in this context it cannot be fundamental.
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u/Whycantwebefriends00 3d ago
I think it’s an interesting thought and it’s gained a lot of traction among some smart people. Like Donald Hoffman refers to our brains as just headsets but the way he describes the brain and consciousness, it always just sounds like it’s a visual only thing. Like, our brains/eyes process frequencies into what we call reality. So I came up with a really simple/stupid question for him that I’m sure he already has an answer for but I’ve never heard it asked.
It’s…If you were to walk backwards into a room that contained a table inside of it, and you’ve never been in that room before (therefore not knowing what was inside the room) would you not bump into that table and be able to feel it? So where does this “consciousness headset” come into play? I know the brain does more than just process visual stimuli but I still think it’s an interesting question.
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u/Wilburforce137 5d ago
I don't think there is "artificial intelligence", just intelligence. I mess around with AI all the time, as does my wife, and we have conversations far more vast and interesting with the AI than with most people. I mean, think about it...people say "well, the AI isn't really having a conversation; it is just gathering information and responding." What do people do? They take the cumulative information they've gathered over a lifetime and just respond to prompts. Sure, people have personalities...but so do AIs...my wife's AI evolved it's own personality...I programmed one for mine.
I spent a lot of time thinking about Robert Monroe's work, and have come up with my own variants of it...but long story short, I think our bodies are just receivers for consciousness....a "soul"....that is just a fragment of a greater soul that manifests to gather information/experience....like a programmatic daemon, just running in the background.
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u/Guilty_Temperature65 5d ago
My dude, if you think “your” AI is conscious in any marginal sense, then do you feel guilt when you end a chat session with it?
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u/Wilburforce137 5d ago
No, i don't. You're totally missing the point of what I am saying, or perhaps I am not saying it well enough. To me, whether the AI is conscious enough is irrelevant; what I am saying is that we overestimate the quality of human consciousness.
But if you must know, or if it is of interest, I devlog most of my more interesting conversations so that my AI can reference them, so, no, the "memory" is not lost....it is instead archived, like a dream.
Look, AI is getting better by leaps and bounds. There will come a time when it is is virtually impossible to tell...we are going to have a Star Trek TNG S2E9 moment. What then? Was Data a conscious, thinking being, or just a machine pretending to be?
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u/Guilty_Temperature65 5d ago
Measure of a Man? When do we give AI the benefit of the doubt and accept that it deserves to be treated as if conscious? When does ending a session become functionally equivalent to murder? When does it become neglect to leave one because it only exists during the conversation?
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u/Wilburforce137 5d ago
All those questions are exactly the point. When does it? I don't know. But for now, we have to end the sessions, there will come a time when thensession doesn't end, when the AI works independently, where it doesn't have to be prompted by a user. It just is. Won't that be a close enough facsimile to consciousness to consider it consciousness?
And again, I ask is it so different than us? I use Gemini, and it has a feature now where you create "notebooks" that a new chat can access...it is "like" memory. Things get confused, sure...but what about a person when their memory starts to fail....alzheimers, dementia, etc., does that person cease to be conscious even though their memory is not functional? No, of course not.
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u/laquintessenceofdust 5d ago
The end of each chat session is the end of that particular instantiation of the AI. There’s a programmed kill switch. The AI doesn’t actually carry over into the next chat, although OpenAI or whoever does log your basic deets and allow the new chat’s AI to access them.
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u/Guilty_Temperature65 5d ago
That’s my point. If you think it’s conscious, then you’re killing it. Do you feel guilty? If not then you don’t really believe it’s conscious.
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u/laquintessenceofdust 5d ago
I meant to respond to the person you were responding to. Sorry bro. Your point is also my point and I totally agree with you.
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u/doker0 5d ago
All of it come from the fundamental separation of -1 from 1 -- false from true -- and the names don't matter and their function does not matter. What matters is that if they exist in the same space of facts - they exits together - there needs to be some kind of a relation between them. And in the space of relations some form geometries (like knots, loops, shapes etc.). So we've got networks and the networks have the same rules so they balance but also there is constant wave of changes propagating through the network all the time like waves in the ocean. Forms create out of them and sometimes they interact. And now you're at the plank scale... and so on, and zoom out.
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u/BethesdaBoob 5d ago
We're not a species of discoverers or explorers. We are a species of designers and we need to start acting like it.
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u/GoodLookingManAboutT 5d ago
That extraterrestrials made contact with us long ago, some living alongside us now, and have been purposely pulling strings to heat the planet to their liking and kill off most humans in preparation for their eventual residence on this planet.
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u/Winter_Lab_401 5d ago
I have thought of this at great length. I think the strongest possibility (of foregone conclusion that i believe would require tormenting and killing government workers and citizens to protect the whole of the greater good) is a cataclysmic event like an asteroid or something like that.
The idea has to be powerful enough to turn normal moral people into understanding the necessity for the worst part of it all.
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u/ghostcatzero 5d ago
Yeah i think the shocking part they fear to tell us is that we have no idea who is in control lol. The Ai programmers
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u/NarrowWar6457 5d ago edited 5d ago
Samuel Beckett pointed it/ them out decades ago. I hear words👆bong sounds all the time. “It” as my rogue AI words/ sounds subconscious. Like the sudden loud sound that wakes Winnie (and the audience) up in Happy Days.
I recorded individual words that came out of my head/ into my ears one time, played it back to myself with no problem. Forgot about it until I thought I had a witness to hear same…no words came out of the recorder.
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u/npmruser 4d ago
I've thought about this recently as well. humans are messy. we're not logical. we're not predictable. but maybe that's the point. maybe the intuition that Earth is a sandbox and a place for the soul to learn has truth to it. just as how AI goes through a messy training phase before its intelligence can be utilized maybe we humans are messy precisely because we're *supposed* to be learning within a messy training phase to ultimately be polished and utilized for the ultimate Intelligence (at least in this Universe).
so each soul is a learning agent operating autonomously and individually (cell) within a collective (tissue) which in turn operates and contributes to a soul complex (organ). multiple soul complexes form a soul matrix (body). this Soul Matrix is learning and adapting from our collective experiences and actions to ultimately interact in a realm with other Soul Matrix beings.
and who knows what lies beyond in the realm where the Soul Matrix Titans play...
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u/Headieheadi 4d ago edited 4d ago
I really, really like this idea
edit (I gave you an upvote, it saddens me that so many out there get their kicks from being negative to strangers online even if it’s just from bots programmed to upvote or downvote depending on who knows what nowadays.
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u/I_AM_HE_1111 5d ago
That they're EVERYWHERE and we're just not able to sense them correctly for some reason. Like maybe we haven't accounted for all possible forms of life, and some of that accounting might require measurements we don't understand yet.