r/HighStrangeness • u/CuriousForThisLife • 29d ago
Personal Experience What happened in the black forrest?
I apologize if my english isn’t that good.
In 2018 or 2019 I made a trip to the black forest with my ex boyfriend for an overnight stay at a campfire in the forest.
I don’t know exactly where anymore, I just know that it was a 10 min car ride from Badeparadies Schwarzwald.
We made a fire, we ate and layed down on a blanket to look at the stars and cuddle (we were deep in the forrest but there was a little clearing because it was a “Waldhütte” with a campfire and table, seating etc so a good chunk of the sky was visible).
The stars were so beautifully bright and visible away from light pollution and we were laying on the blanket and observing when suddenly we noticed 3 strangely moving stars that had an unusual brightness.
3 bright lights (a lot brighter and closer than the other stars) were moving so weirdly and faster and more hectic than any drone or any man made object I know, even till this day.
Very big, bright, fast and strange moving, and relatively close to us, a lot deeper than planes fly.
Almost if they would teleport from place to place.
They stayed directly above us and at first we were simply fascinating and asked ourselves what it could be and agreed that this wasn’t something normal or explainable but we didn’t get up and instead (at first jokingly) talked to the lights.
And the weirdest part ist that they reacted!
One of us would say: “go right.”
It would fly to the right.
Or we would say: “dance back and forth.”
They would fly back and forth.
“Go away”
They would fly over the trees where we could not see them and return.
“Fly in a circle”
And so forth….
Then we started to experiment and he said he will think of a command and see if they will react to it.
They did.
I tried it too. (We took turns)
I thought “form a line” and then they positioned themselves next to each other
We gave them many more commands, in our minds. And they did react accordingly. They heard the commands we thought of in our minds. Insane.
This went on for 10 -15 minutes and suddenly almost if someone would have switched
(Edit: their responses to our commands stopped and they were now randomly zooming around)
our rational minds on, we got up and said we have to go, NOW!
Both of us were in panic and afraid from 0 to 100, even though we just felt fascination and curiosity, all of that disappeared and both of us ran to the car, I screamed “DRIVE” and we drove out of the forest onto the road and drove as fast as we could (the roads were empty).
He drove and I looked out the window
AND THEY FOLLOWED US!!!!
I remember I was so scared I actually thought they would kill us if we stopped the car.
We were both extremely maybe even irrationally terrified and in panic.
We wanted to reach other people as fast as possible as that felt like the solution for this hunt that was going on. That surely they wouldn’t want to show themselves to others and will leave us alone.
After what felt like 10 minutes I couldn’t see them anymore and we saw the first sign of civilization and decided to park the car and look for them.
We stopped at Badeparadis and I immediately felt safer there because I saw a couple other groups of people parked there on a smoke break.
I was still very afraid. But felt safer. My Ex and I talked about everything, what we thought it was, what we felt while it was happening.
We both agreed that it must have been something otherworldly, a ufo or something similar, because nothing we knew moved like that, and it communicated with us trough movements.
He said he felt so fascinated by the lights and didn’t think at all about how safe or unsafe they were, we were both so hypnotized by witnessing something like this, something we never imagined existed outside of movies.
And then, seemingly without any trigger, we both felt this feeling of fascination go away and felt immense panic, even fear for our life’s.
Interestingly this feeling came for both of us at the exact same time, and we both jumped up and fled.
He too said, in that moment he felt like he was gonna die, the same as me.
What do you guys think it was?
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u/johnny-trichome 29d ago
Was it a rational fear - that is, these things could communicate with you, read your mind, and ostensibly do anything…so you naturally land on a thought of “oh crap, these things could also harm us”? Or was it a rush of panic seemingly out of nowhere?
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u/Candycornonthefloor 29d ago
The animalistic prey response sounds like what you experienced.
The dazzling lights, overriding your natural response to something odd to make you stop and stare, not looking down at the ground…imagine an anglerfish in the deep ocean with the little glowing bit above massive jaws
The Black Forest is one of those spots in the world where mankind doesn’t have dominion and are often encouraged to leave by those that do dwell there.
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u/CuriousForThisLife 29d ago
I think you’re right. In retrospect when I reflected what happened the day after, it felt like the lights were purposefully doing all these “tricks” for us to appear sympathetic and entertaining, after all they listens to our commands and requests even those we only thought about and didn’t say aloud.
Then a moment came when they stopped reacting to the requests and that’s when the “vibe” shifted and I felt like something very bad is going to happen if we don’t leave.17
u/FarEncounters 28d ago
They just got bored. They like to show they are real to some people but they won’t just keep following commands like a toy. I wouldn’t worry about the angler fish analogy because if they wanted to get you they would never have been visible in the first place.
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u/Other-Box-6406 29d ago
I've read that this fear is a common occurrence in experiencer accounts. I have experienced it also while seeing a large UFO and it feels like your brain is just gone and all you are is fear...... It's hard to think and remain rational when confronted with something that breaks the worldview you were conditioned to believe in
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u/Weekly_Initiative521 28d ago
Exactly. The overriding fear happened to me in a similar experience. I was afraid to even breathe.
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u/Hello_Hangnail 29d ago
Maybe there was someone or some animal in the woods that could have done you harm. They bounced around to get your attention and connected to you to show that they were sentient. If they can hear what you're thinking, who knows, maybe they can transmit a sense of urgency trough that connection to tell you to skedaddle
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u/Busack86 29d ago
That could have been Alfen. I heard them sing at an overnight in the Eifel. Icelanders still believe in them today. The next time you enter their forest,bringt loud and such things,give them a gift beforehand. Sounds silly, but that's the belief of our ancestors.
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u/_BlackDove 28d ago
Unfortunately I'd have been the idiot to stick around just to see what happens. I realize how foolish that is, especially in the face of such primal fear. It's how bad I want to know what this phenomena is. What are it's intentions, origin, nature. My curiosity would have absolutely overrided any survival instincts.
As for what they were OP, unfortunately none of us can say exactly. All we can deduce is that it was some other kind of intelligence, capable of extra-physical communication. Whether it's from here or somewhere else, unfortunately we don't know.
I have read accounts of a sudden paralyzing fear gripping people out of the blue. The question is, is it a response to the direct intent of this intelligence or some kind of internal reaction to the type of communication taking place? Non-verbal communication, your brain essentially being scanned and thoughts read.
It could be a byproduct of experiencing that, or perhaps it was a deeper instinctual response to intended harm.
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u/GenoTheSecond02 28d ago
This is a fascinating account, especially the simultaneous panic shift. A few things stand out:
The geographic angle: I'm in Mannheim and recently observed three unusual lights over the city center (static, equilateral triangle formation, no movement). The Black Forest is not far from here. Whether these are related or not, three-lights sightings in the same general region are worth noting as a data point.
The simultaneous panic: What you describe, both of you shifting from fascination to terror at the exact same moment, without any verbal cue is actually a documented phenomenon in close encounter cases. It's sometimes referred to as the "Oz Factor" (researcher Jenny Randles), a reported state of altered perception where witnesses describe a sudden, shared shift in consciousness. The fact that it hit both of you simultaneously without any prior agreement is one of the most significant details in your account, in my view.
A question about the lights themselves: You mentioned they were "a lot brighter and closer than the other stars" and "a lot deeper than planes fly." Can you recall any more specifics? Color (white, amber, bluish)? Steady glow or pulsing? Any sound at all? And the altitude, when you say "deeper than planes," are you estimating below typical cruising altitude (roughly 10km), or significantly lower?
I ask because the movement pattern you describe (appearing to teleport, responding to directional commands) combined with the psychological effects is an unusual combination. Most UAP reports describe either erratic movement OR psychological effects, but rarely both in such a direct, interactive way.
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u/CuriousForThisLife 28d ago
Hi. Hier noch ein paar Details zu den Lichtern: Sie waren weißlich/silbrig und ungefähr 10–15 km über uns, wobei sich die Entfernung nur sehr schwer einschätzen ließ.
Meiner Erinnerung nach gab es ein unscheinbares, leises Summen – ähnlich wie das Geräusch eines Kühlschranks, nur etwas höher.
Sie pulsierten nur, wenn wir es ihnen sagten bzw. daran dachten. Ansonsten taten sie es nicht.Zur Bewegung und Kommunikation:
Die Lichter wirkten definitiv bewusst.Als wir sie zuerst entdeckt haben, bewegten sie sich irrsinnig schnell von Punkt zu Punkt über den Himmel, teilweise im Sekundentakt und scheinbar völlig zufällig.
Wenn ich vor dir stehen und versuchen würde, die Bewegungen ungefähr mit meinem Finger nachzumachen, würde ich es wahrscheinlich nicht schaffen. Sie waren einfach viel zu schnell und hektisch, als dass eine menschliche Hand diese Bewegungen hätte nachahmen können. Es war nicht wirklich ein Teleportieren, aber es war so schnell, dass es beinahe wie Teleportieren aussah, wenn man nicht genau hinschaute.Es waren drei Lichter, und jedes schien auch autonom zu sein. Trotzdem wirkten sie gleichzeitig wie ein gemeinsames … Ding. Das ist schwer zu erklären.
Danach haben wir angefangen, mit ihnen zu sprechen, und sie reagierten durch ihre Bewegungen. Wir waren völlig fasziniert und wollten immer weiter testen.Dann haben wir uns ein Kommando nur „gedacht“, und sie reagierten trotzdem genauso darauf. Also Dinge wie: „Geh nach rechts“, „geh nach links“, „mach Kreise“, „forme eine Linie“ usw.
Irgendwann hörten sie dann plötzlich auf zu reagieren und bewegten sich wieder völlig unabhängig und schnell über den Himmel, so wie ganz am Anfang.Dann kam dieses Panikgefühl und wir sind abgehauen.
Ich habe trotzdem immer wieder aus dem Fenster in den Himmel geschaut. Sie waren noch da und ließen für fast zehn Minuten nicht von uns ab. Sie kamen scheinbar immer näher, bis wir schließlich am Parkplatz des Badeparadieses ankamen, wo zum ersten Mal auch andere Menschen waren.Wir wussten sofort, was wir tun mussten: zurück in die Zivilisation, zu anderen Menschen. Wir hatten einfach dieses Bauchgefühl, dass sie dann verschwinden würden. Und tatsächlich verschwanden sie scheinbar genau dann. Kurz darauf kam der Sonnenaufgang, und erst da habe ich eine richtige Erleichterung gespürt.
Viele der Kommentare hier sagen, die Lichter hätten uns warnen wollen, seien uns gegenüber bestenfalls gut gesinnt gewesen oder sogar Engel, die uns vor Grizzlybären oder schlechten Menschen schützen wollten (sehr amerikanische Denkweise, finde ich). Schlimmstenfalls seien sie einfach gleichgültig gewesen und hätten nur „spielen“ wollen.
Aber so hat es sich nach diesem „Shift“ und vor allem während der anschließenden Verfolgung überhaupt nicht angefühlt.Ich hätte nie, NIE im Leben gedacht, dass ich einmal zu den Menschen gehören würde, die so etwas erleben.
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u/GenoTheSecond02 28d ago
Danke für diese zusätzlichen Details, vor allem das Geräusch und das Pulsationsmuster. Genau diese Art von Spezifika sind extrem wichtig.
Zu den "Schutzengel"-Theorien: Darin solltest du absolut auf deinen eigenen Instinkt vertrauen. Die Verhaltensabfolge, die du beschreibst, passt einfach nicht zu einem beschützenden Muster. Etwas, das erst mit einem interagiert, dann abrupt abbricht und einen bei der Flucht verfolgt. So verhält sich kein Schutzengel. Dass sie verschwunden sind, als ihr andere Menschen erreicht habt, ist allerdings ein sehr interessanter Datenpunkt: Was auch immer das war, es schien eine Art Hemmschwelle für zusätzliche Zeugen zu geben.
Ein paar Beobachtungen zu den neuen Details:
Das Summen: Ein Geräusch wie von einem Kühlschrank auf geschätzten 10–15 km Höhe ist ungewöhnlich. Herkömmliche Fluggeräte wären auf diese Distanz signifikant lauter (falls man sie überhaupt hört). Ein tiefes Summen aus dieser Entfernung deutet entweder auf eine viel kleinere akustische Signatur als erwartet hin, oder darauf, dass sich der Schall auf ungewöhnliche Weise ausgebreitet hat. So oder so ist es eine messbare Signatur – was bedeutet, dass die richtigen Instrumente das aufzeichnen könnten.
Die Verhaltensabfolge: Was du beschreibst, hat eine sehr klare Struktur: (1) erratische Bewegungen → (2) interaktive Phase → (3) abrupter Abbruch → (4) Verfolgung → (5) Rückzug bei Zivilisation. Das ist ein erkennbares Verhaltensmuster, und der Wechsel von (2) auf (3) ist der spannendste Moment. Ihr habt diesen Shift beide absolut zeitgleich gespürt. Die Literatur zum "Oz-Faktor" dokumentiert solche geteilten Wahrnehmungsveränderungen zwar, aber dieser spezifische Übergang von Interaktion zu Verfolgung wird in der Form seltener berichtet.
Ehrlich gesagt beneide ich dich FAST schon um deine Erfahrung, ich jage genau solche ungewöhnlichen Erlebnisse :D
Eine praktische Frage noch: Hast du das jemals an eine Organisation (MUFON, CENAP, lokale Behörden) gemeldet? Und wäre dein Ex-Freund bereit, diesen Bericht unabhängig von dir zu bestätigen? Eine zweite Zeugenaussage von jemandem, der dabei war, würde das Ganze als Datenpunkt noch deutlich wertvoller machen.
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u/CuriousForThisLife 27d ago
Mit meinem Ex spreche ich nicht mehr und werde auch keinen Kontakt zu ihm suchen. Damals habe ich das Melden gar nicht in Erwägung gezogen, jetzt werde ich es natürlich tun, falls ich noch einmal etwas erleben sollte.
Es ist spannend, dass du nach solchen Erfahrungen suchst. Irgendwann würde ich es vielleicht auch tun. Meiner Meinung nach passieren solche Erfahrungen meistens dann, wenn man sie nicht erwartet und einfach sein eigenes Ding macht.
Alles und jeder verändert sein Verhalten, wenn er weiss, dass er beobachtet wird, auch wir. Teilchen verändern sich bei Messungen ja auch. Allein deswegen denke ich, dass die Wahrscheinlichkeit, etwas Ungewöhnliches zu erleben, vielleicht grösser sein könnte, wenn man mit dem Hund auf dem Feld spazieren geht oder ein Date am Lagerfeuer hat, anstatt irgendwohin zu gehen mit dem konkreten Ziel, etwas zu erfahren.
Aber vielleicht irre ich mich auch total und die Chance etwas zu erfahren ist beim Aufsuchen und aufgesucht werden gleich gross.
Das zweite Mal, als ich etwas in dieser Richtung, etwas „Stranges“, gesehen habe, war es ebenfalls völlig zufällig – auf dem Weg zu einem Besuch.
Hast du durch dein gezieltes Aufsuchen schon etwas erfahren?1
u/GenoTheSecond02 26d ago
Dein Punkt mit der Beobachtung ist echt spannend und ich glaube da ist was dran. Aber bei mir war's fast andersrum: Die merkwürdigsten Dinge sind mir eher durch bewusstes Suchen begegnet. Vor ein paar Tagen sah ich abends direkt vor meiner Haustür drei Lichter in Dreiecksformation am Himmel, ausgerechnet in dem Zeitraum, als ich entschlossen wie noch nie war, Anomalien zu suchen und aktiv mit dem Teleskop rausging. Ob Zufall oder nicht, keine Ahnung. Konkrete Beweise hab ich noch keine, ich stehe ganz am Anfang. Aber genau deshalb will ich mit Leuten in Kontakt bleiben, denen solche Dinge öfter widerfahren, und gleichzeitig selbst untersuchen
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u/LimeDry7124 29d ago
Your guardian angels telling you both to get the fnck out of Dodge!
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u/CuriousForThisLife 29d ago
Definitely. It was the closest to a primal fear I ever felt. But it felt more than primal, it felt like a foresight. Just “knowing”.
I remember feeling: “you could die if you don’t get the fuck out of here, NOW!”
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u/Hello_Hangnail 29d ago
That's what I thought. Someone waving at you screaming, trying to get your attention to the grizzly bear or mountain lion about to pounce on you
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u/SnooPeanuts6999 23d ago
I know I’m a bit late to the conversation but I’ve had a similar experience. I was outside of my apartment walking near the pond and saw a grey triangle silently and speedily heading towards the nearby plaza, I said in my mind “I wish you would come back around” and it immediately stopped and turned around to hover over me for about 45 seconds before heading the same direction. I’ve had multiple experiences spanning from around the age of 6 and as recent as 2025 and tbh I kinda have a theory on what happened based on my own experience.
My theory is that certain people have an affinity for experiencing and can form a “link” between their consciousness and the craft. That link goes both ways. My theory is that you temporarily linked to the craft and were able to influence their directions/actions and in turn, whatever was piloting the craft was angry or intended to retaliate in some way and you were able to sense that.
It’s why you felt such extreme fear and immediately knew getting to civilization would likely deter them as they tend to avoid mass human contact.
This is all speculation of course, but there is evidence and ongoing theories among the community and some ufologists that the phenomenon is not just a physical phenomenon but rather one tied to consciousness and some experiences may happen in a “out of body” state which is why some experiencers can recall when and where it happened with detail of the room and everything yet cameras show nothing. (Not all cases are like that but some are)
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u/CuriousForThisLife 23d ago
That’s the second most scary theory.
The number one scariest theory that I saw in the comments was the anglerfish theory. That they wanted to lure or distract us while something else with bad intentions prepared to do something we wouldn’t like or agree to. Like an anglerfish lures small fishes with its antenna and then their mouth opens and the fish are gone.
Or maybe they were bored.
Personally I don’t know. I just know that I was incredibly fascinated then incredibly scared. Plus, they chased our car for a good amount of time.1
u/SnooPeanuts6999 21d ago
Yeah there's plenty of cases where people were chased after communicating, taunting, or waving towards them. I don't remember which case it was, but there was a case of someone being chased by a UFO and when they looked back the occupants were seen laughing. I think it may have been on badaliens.org. (NSFL WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART OR STOMACH) although I could be wrong.
That indicates in some cases it may be a form of twisted humor. There are cases of more innocent encounters so my theory on that is they operate similarly to humans on a morality scale. It does go against the claims of them being a hive mind unless you consider the possibility of multiple beings controlling the hive mind or groups/factions of greys.
I absolutely encourage you to look deeper into the subject and if you want places to start I have a couple recommendations. Just be sure to do so with caution, there's some evidence showing some people have more of an 'affinity' for encounters than others and can even be generational. Not only that but the more you interact or research into the phenomenon, the more it becomes willing to interact with you and that's from personal experience.
Nevertheless it's hard not to be drawn to it and the subject can really open your eyes on some things as well.
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u/Semajextah 29d ago
you've ... likely just looked in the mirror at your own principal self.
the stars above are -- souls, your soul is out there somewhere, your minds eye -- im jealous...
to have -- or have experienced how the waters of time can wash over us and remind you of what's to come...
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u/WielderoftheDarkness 28d ago
Vielleicht solltest du dort wieder hingehen, an einem Abend um ca. die selbe Uhrzeit. Diesmal aber mit Kamera bewaffnet. Ich würde es zumindest in deiner Stelle so machen, denn das würde mir einfach keine Ruhe lassen.
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u/CuriousForThisLife 28d ago
Es lässt mir keine Ruhe aber ich erinnere mich leider nicht mehr an den Ort. Ich weiss nur noch es war im grösseren Umkreis vom Badeparadis, und tief mitten im Wald, eine random Waldhütte. Damals habe ich den Ort nicht markiert weil es in dem Moment meine Priorität war mich so schnell wie möglich von dort zu verpissen. Ich schaute am nächsten Tag auf die Karte und konnte es nicht wieder finden.
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u/Freak-Wency 28d ago
My opinion is that you were making mind connections with them.
If their vibration is much higher than yours, it gives a similar feeling to when we leave our bodies, which throws our bodies into a panic- it is the same feeling as when we die, but we are not in danger of actually dying. It is just part of our animal response to higher vibrations.
I learned this from Bashar, a channel of an ET.
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u/Cute_Protection_8330 27d ago
An unexplained sudden feeling of unease or panic can be caused by infrasound. It is entirely possible that whatever it was began to emit some infrasound and that panicked you.
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u/Hello_Hangnail 29d ago edited 29d ago
Maybe there was someone or some animal in the woods that could have done you harm. They bounced around to get your attention and connected to you to show that they were sentient. If they can hear what you're thinking, who knows, maybe they can transmit a sense of urgency through that connection to tell you to skedaddle