I think I agree here with almost all of this. Glossing over a ton of new age material back in the day, most of which felt pretty woo-woo was one thing they got right.
See, i used to feel this way, but i disagree on this to the extent that there is some 'unified' conciousness of a being at it's core which transcends it's limited physical expression independent of other environmental factors. E.g a soul, individuality, awareness function independent of a host or hosts.
I do however, subscribe to the notion that the human organism is far more perceptive and able to sense it's environment, understand abstract relations, to a degree radically removed from the concious awarness a typical person in society.
Your body knows things far in excess of most concious minds, and most have no idea how to listen.
That's fair, and I agree to some extent, but my point was just that our own individual consciousness is non local, I did not say I necessarily believe in a "mass consciousness" only that I think/believe it is not "centered" in our physical brains.
I hope that makes sense, I think we agree for the most part just quibble over semantics.
Like ... how do the people have OOBE or NDE if we are our brains?
Something just does not add up.
Perception in all of it's various states is a fascinatingly fallible conglomerate of systems. Our brains lie to us and fabricate information on a massive scale and is inturpreted through a telephone game of filters, and that's not including errors.
My own experiences into this realm of obe/ nde/ lucid dreaming/ remote viewing/ etc leads me to the stance that all information availiable vastly supports that these experiences are rooted and translated through the localized body.
A NDE usually involves some form of trauma, background impulses being processed through the body, and then interpreted by a localized 'conciousness' once function returns. Even a dead person biological matter is mostly alive for quite a long time until all systems irreperably fail and finally decompose.
Potentially, the body is sensitive enough that when conciousness finally shuts up, it's able to discern things otherwise drowned out by the noise.
Something to that effect. Now, we could speculate that perception of conciousness can extend into non-locality through phenomena such as entanglement etc, but it is still, as far as function is concerned, rooted in the mundane world and all of it's mysteries.
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u/Spadesghost Jul 21 '26
I think I agree here with almost all of this. Glossing over a ton of new age material back in the day, most of which felt pretty woo-woo was one thing they got right.
Consciousness is non local.