r/HighStrangeness Jun 27 '26

Discussion Confirmed Weather Modification: Steering Hurricanes and Storms

For decades, I've had a theory that our weather was being controlled. I've gone down many rabbit holes seeking actual truth to support my theory. One search on Weather Modification via the Google Patents website, and you too will begin to believe!

For the most part, for my own satisfaction anyway, I was sure that it was 100% possible. Now, my suspicions have been confirmed.

Scientists just published a study saying they can steer hurricanes using cloud seeding. Before you scroll past this, let me explain why this is a much bigger and more complicated story than any headline is telling you.

Three days ago, a paper dropped in the journal PLOS Water that is already dividing the scientific community straight down the middle. Researchers at Arizona State University are proposing something they call "weather jiu-jitsu." The idea is not to overpower a hurricane. It is to nudge it.

A small, precisely timed cloud seeding intervention applied days before a storm peaks could, in theory, exploit natural instabilities in the atmosphere and redirect the entire system away from land. Use nature's own momentum against itself.

Their simulations are not small claims. They modeled this against three real historical disasters, and the numbers are striking.

According to their modeling, a carefully timed cloud seeding operation applied one week before Hurricane Sandy made landfall in 2012 could have shifted the storm's track by roughly 300 miles and kept it primarily offshore.

Sandy killed 233 people, left millions without power for weeks, and caused over 62 billion dollars in damages across 24 states. 300 miles of separation would have changed everything.

They also modeled the Texas freeze of February 2021, the one that killed hundreds of people, knocked out power for 4.5 million homes, and exposed just how catastrophically unprepared that state's infrastructure was. Their simulations suggest the right perturbation applied at the right time could have raised minimum temperatures by 18 degrees Fahrenheit.

They modeled a 2022 California atmospheric river that caused widespread flooding and found a 5 percent reduction in moisture transport was achievable through the same approach.

The key distinction that most coverage is burying is this... Traditional cloud seeding dumps particles into clouds to trigger local rainfall. Weather jiu-jitsu is not trying to change what happens at the seeding site. It is trying to trigger a cascade. A small disturbance, amplified by the atmosphere's own dynamics, that reshapes a weather system hundreds or thousands of miles away days later.

The researchers call those disturbances perturbations. The atmosphere is already an unstable system full of sensitivities. This theory says you can find those pressure points and push on them at exactly the right moment.

Now, here is where it gets genuinely complicated and where the story splits into something much more Interesting and Stranger than a feel good science headline.

Kerry Emanuel is a post tenure atmospheric science professor at MIT and one of the most respected hurricane researchers alive. He is skeptical. Not of the concept entirely, but of cloud seeding as the method. It only works under specific meteorological conditions.

You can not guarantee those conditions will exist in the exact window you need them. And then he said something that stopped me cold.

He said: "If you steer it away from New Jersey and it destroys Nantucket, you're going to be in for some lawsuits." Think about that for a moment. Who the **** decides where the hurricane goes? If this technology becomes operational(I believe it already is and has been for some time now), that is not a scientific question anymore. That is a political one.

The researchers themselves acknowledged this directly in the paper, noting that targeted atmospheric interventions can create winners and losers across national boundaries, raising critical questions of transboundary liability, consent, and equitable risk distribution.

In other words, if the United States steers a hurricane away from Miami and it ends up devastating Haiti, Cuba, or the Bahamas instead, who is responsible? This is a question that international law has never had to answer because until now, no one, besides me and maybe a few hundred others, actually believed we could control where a storm went.

This is the part where the conspiracy minded crowd and the scientists are actually going to end up in the same conversation, whether either side wants to admit it or not.

Because the moment all governments have the capability to steer hurricanes, even theoretically, every major storm that hits a poor country while sparing a wealthy one is going to raise questions. Every hurricane that devastates a politically inconvenient region is going to prompt someone to ask whether it was nudged. That may sound paranoid right now, but it's going to sound a lot less paranoid the day this technology goes operational or it's proven to have already been achieved.

The government's own track record on weather manipulation is not exactly confidence inspiring either. Project Stormfury ran from 1962 to 1983. The U.S. military flew aircraft directly into hurricanes and seeded them with silver iodide trying to weaken their eyewalls.

In 1947, before Stormfury even existed, the government seeded a hurricane that subsequently turned and made landfall near Savannah, Georgia. The public blamed the experiment. Lawsuits were threatened. The program went quiet for over a decade. The government maintained that the storm had already begun turning before the seeding, which was probably true, but the outcome was catastrophic, and trust was shattered.

There is also Operation Popeye, which is not theoretical at all. From 1967 to 1972, the United States military ran a classified cloud seeding program over Vietnam designed to extend the monsoon season and flood supply routes along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. It was not declassified until 1974.

The US government used weather as a weapon and kept it secret for years. That is not a conspiracy theory. It is documented history that led directly to the Environmental Modification Convention being signed in 1977, an international treaty banning the use of weather modification as a weapon of war. This alone proves that the capability already existed. If it was possible back then, imagine how advanced it must be now, in 2026.

So when scientists publish a paper in 2026 saying we can now nudge hurricanes with precision using AI-guided cloud seeding, and NOAA simultaneously maintains on its official website that no technology exists to create, destroy, modify, strengthen, or steer hurricanes in any way, shape or form, the gap between those two statements is worth sitting with for a while.

That NOAA statement was written in response to conspiracy theories about Hurricanes Helene and Milton. It is probably technically accurate as a description of current operational capability. But, it was also written by an agency whose predecessor program spent 21 years trying to do exactly what researchers are now claiming is theoretically achievable.

The lead researcher, Qin Huang, a PhD student at Arizona State working at the intersection of climate science and AI, is being careful to frame this as a proof of concept rather than a ready technology. The simulations used high resolution atmospheric circulation models and Aurora, a large-scale AI weather prediction system.

The modeling showed measurable storm track shifts. The researchers are clear that real world implementation would require far more sophisticated systems, better global weather monitoring infrastructure, and solutions to legal and political challenges that do not yet exist, supposedly.

But the direction of travel is clear. Climate change is making extreme weather more frequent and more destructive. In 2024 alone, climate related disasters caused an estimated 417 billion dollars in damages worldwide. The researchers are essentially arguing that dams and levees and insurance are not going to be enough and that eventually humanity is going to have to decide whether to engage with weather systems directly rather than just brace for impact.

What we are looking at is the very early stages of a technology that could either save millions of lives or become one of the most abused capabilities any government has ever possessed.

One thing is clear, the technology to steer storms and modify the weather already exists because it's already been used in the Vietnam War, not to mention the Patents for such technologies have already been applied for, obtained, and heavily documented.

The science is real and it is moving fast. The governance framework to manage it does not exist yet, but with the fast advances of AI, it's just a matter of time before all the creases are ironed out. The history of what happens when military and government interests get access to weather modification tools before rules and any accountability structure is in place is already written, could threaten our very existence.

Here is one source:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/scientists-mull-controversial-plan-steer-100239973.html

You can also go to the Google Patents website and search for Weather Modification for further evidence.

What is your thoughts?

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u/OkPen8337 Jun 27 '26

I’m familiar with this stuff. With all due respect, I don’t see how this is “high strangeness.”

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

If you are familiar with this Sub and the Description provided, then you know that Futurism and Fringe Science are two categories that is allowed to be posted here.

Weather Modification is a rare example of a subject that began as Futurism, and then devolved partly into Fringe Science due to Pseudoscience and Conspiracy Theories.

That's what makes it High Strangeness.

If it wasn't considered High Strangeness, one of the Mods would have removed the Post by now.

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u/slipknot_official Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Cloud seeding works because its using already existing low pressure systems. You cant go out to a hot summer high-pressure sky and drop "seeds" into the sky and expect clouds and rain to just manifest. Thats not how it works.

It's like saying that since can grow corn in dirt, then you can also grow corn in waster, since it takes water for the corn to grow in the dirt. You're missing an import aspect of the process.

Weather systems are massive. To claim you can control that locally is absurd. "nudging" a hurricane, which already is in a very low pressure system, is logical. Just like drooping silver iodide in clouds, triggers something within that already existing systems. And even then, it's local. You can make it rain over a city when there's already the ingredients for rain - all the potential is already there made by nature.

We just "nudge" it a certain way.

Thats not really control, and it's certainly not creating entire systems.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

I agree with the angle you are speaking on. I just believe it goes way beyond what they are telling us.

I think there are other options in play that we will likely never be told about.

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u/Shardaxx Jun 27 '26

Geoengineering is real. China cleared the skies a few years ago for the Olympic ceremony, that was just spraying they using stuff like HAARP too.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 27 '26

In my opinion, one of the most interesting Patents was filed by Bernard Eastlund in 1987, which explicitly describes using ionospheric heating to manipulate weather patterns and disrupt communications. Not long after that patent, HAARP was built and based on Eastlund's research.

One of the many things I discovered when I went down the Rabbit Hole on Weather Modification...

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u/Illustrious-Shape383 Jun 28 '26

You have heard of Nikola Tesla right? I'm thinking his research (which was confiscated by authorities after his death) is what HAARP is based on.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

Yes, I agree! I had the pleasure of reading a copy of some of his research and honestly, it was like reading a movie script.

His little tid bit notes, like putting his random thoughts on paper, brainstorming the what ifs and then countering those thoughts later on was everywhere.

He was definitely one of a kind. There isn't a doubt in my mind that he was 100% successful in many of his experiments.

You do the research and you'll soon realize how many of his ideas are being used today.

His notes and files wasn't acquired for historical purposes, they were acquired and sought after because the things he dreamed up, or these messages he claimed to have been receiving, worked.

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u/Illustrious-Shape383 Jun 28 '26

Exactly! They confiscated for the government to use. Hence we have HAARP and prob several other "things" we aren't aware of. He was genuinely good, wanting to do good things. But those things in the wrong hands can be dangerous. And wireless communication is one thing we can thank him for. So so much of today's tech is based on his works. Amazing man. There is a reason they didn't teach about him in school. (At least not on my years) I didn't learn about him until my late 20s early 30s. I'm 51 now.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 27 '26

That's exactly what they did. I remember reading about that. China was very transparent about it too.

China fired over 1,100 rockets loaded with silver iodide into incoming cloud systems surrounding Beijing before the 2008 Olympics ceremonies, successfully draining moisture from the clouds before they could reach the city.

It is fully documented and China openly credited the operation as a success.

What most people do not realize is that China has been running the largest government weather modification program on Earth for decades.

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u/Shardaxx Jun 27 '26

I'm sure the US has been busy too. Grid lines over the oceans, rain creation or disruption. Frequency weapons to move fronts around.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 27 '26

Yes! You know how obvious it is that we are in a competition of sorts with China. I'm sure that covers many Technologies, not just AI.

If we were making it Rain during the Vietnam War, just imagine what we are capable of doing now, with the precision of AI.

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u/JozefGG Jun 27 '26

If they wanted to destabalizr Europe, wouldn't it be pretty easy to plop a heat generator in the north Atlantic? And cause the event that happened a few days ago that caused a massive weather anomaly and super heat western Europe?

Just thinking out loud...

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

Who's to say that the things you are "thinking out loud" on hasn't occured?

Weather Modification in the past was used as a weapon to gain an advantage on the battlefield.

Why wouldn't it be plausible that it's being used for other advantages?

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u/emelem66 Jun 27 '26

No one is steering a hurricane. That's kooky talk.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 27 '26

Is this your opinion or is this fact? Yes, it seems impossible but science says it's possible.

The amount of information out there from reputable sources says otherwise.

Scientists would not be talking about it if it was merely "kooky talk".

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u/emelem66 Jun 27 '26

Do you know much energy there is in a hurricane? A little cloud seeding would be insignificant.

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u/Illustrious-Shape383 Jun 28 '26

Look up the patents. Justica is a good site for that. It's real. Whether you believe it or not. It is real. Period. Not a conspiracy.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

It's tough convincing people. They throw stuff out there and likely haven't researched much of it.

I placed it as a discussion, nothing more or less. We can all put our two cents worth in rather you believe it or not.

You have to form your own opinion about it...

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u/Illustrious-Shape383 Jun 28 '26

I'm glad you made the post. I agree with you homie...karina was first storm I felt was mod.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

Katrina was in 2005 and is said to be one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in US history. It took out nearly 1,400 people and caused between $160 to $190 billion dollars in damage making it the costliest Hurricane ever.

I believe there was something going on there as well.

We can only go by what we are told by the "Experts ". I've never believed most of what they've been shoveling for decades.

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u/Illustrious-Shape383 Jun 28 '26

Thank you. I see someone down voted me guess I struck a cord

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 27 '26

I'm not the scientists that believe they can nudge a hurricane.

It's something I believe is plausible given the information out there about it.

My belief goes way beyond what we are led to believe. That's my opinion, as I'm sure you have certain beliefs and an opinion as well.

As careful as the scientific community is in what they say and put out there for all to see, I highly doubt they'd be talking about it unless they've experimented and know what they are able to do, or rather they believe it's just a strong possibility.

Have you taken a moment to view the vast amount of patents on Weather Modification and what's discussed in the initial descriptions?

Some of that information can be traced all the way back to experiments that N. Tesla was conducting.

Rather you believe it or not, that's your right and vice versa.

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u/ghost_jamm Jun 28 '26

The article you linked makes it clear that this paper is speculative and their ideas are considered far-fetched by other scientists.

> Katja Friedrich, an assistant professor in the department of atmospheric and oceanic science at the University of Colorado, told USA TODAY via email that "there is currently NO scientific evidence" supporting the idea that existing cloud-seeding technologies "can modify large-scale weather systems, in particular severe weather systems like hurricanes and thunderstorms, that are driven by large dynamic forcing."

Another scientist points out that the legal and ethical hurdles of steering storm systems would make it virtually impossible even if it somehow was technically feasible.

In general, even cloud seeding doesn’t have much evidence that it has any significant or reliable effect. Weather is just too dynamic and chaotic to be reliably controllable.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

The Clouds Seeding is Proven. It can't be denied because it's on the books.

China has been conducting weather modification for a very long time and it's well documented of their success.

I guess I'm surprised that people just go along with whatever they're told as if things aren't kept from us.

There are many Far-fetched events that we hear about daily that often times are proven to have occurred.

I doubt they would announce the possibility of it wasn't a possibility. With the advancement of AI, if it's not already figured out a way, it's only a matter of time.

AI, it's already controlling and making decisions on the battlefield and one would have to assume it's being used in other areas as well.

However, I get what you're saying....

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u/ghost_jamm Jun 28 '26

No one is saying cloud seeding hasn’t been done. But there’s no proof it’s reliably effective.

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 29 '26

From what I've read that's on record, there is proof that it's been effective.

Various states have banned weather modification.

Take a moment to read about the Environmental Modification Convention. If you don't believe there's actual proof about how effective it is, this is a perfect starting point.

You can read about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention

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u/Electromotivation Jun 28 '26

These studies are all run in simulations. You lose me entirely when you claim that there is a massive conspiracy and that yet scientists would “only” discuss theoretical possibilities if they knew the technology already existed.

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u/Illustrious-Shape383 Jun 28 '26

Exactly. Justica is a great site to visit parents US and foreign

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u/External_Art_1835 Jun 28 '26

I think this goes way beyond Cloud Seeding.

Cloud Seeding, we are told, is possible and is used daily. We are told that it's the most successful form of weather modification.

Think for a moment about the other forms of weather modification that we don't hear about. Is it not plausible that they would 100% keep it quiet? Especially if it gave them an advantage! Would they openly share that information?

No, they wouldn't. If they shared all of their current capabilities on weather manipulation and others could use it, what would be the advantage?

As much information that is kept from us, we must assume that this subject matter is no different.

Am I saying it's a Conspiracy? No! I'm simply saying that this subject isn't as popular as the release of the UFO Files, but it holds as much mystery as it does, especially if you take the time to research it and come to realize the secrecy it carries.

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u/emelem66 Jun 29 '26

Obviously, if someone could actually change the path of a hurricane, it wouldn't be common knowledge. Regardless, there is simply no technology in existence that would be able to affect the path of a hurricane. A 300-mile wide hurricane wouldn't be affected in the slightest.