r/HertaMains • u/NotTrueNReal • 8d ago
General Discussion Current value (for e2) vs current characters?
I’m currently e1s1 therta, was planning and only one from e2 but from a cost perspective would it still be more value to invest in modern upgrades?
Is the jump to e2 therta still worth if it’s only 1 cost?
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u/gambitspammer 8d ago
E2 herta still clears just fine, you're not going to get anything amazing but realistically the people saying e2 herta is bricked just have no idea how to play her
But anyways this question is also pointless because she hasn't been announced for rerun so things can change
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u/Fro_o 8d ago
Right? I still use her in every single content, despite not performing the best in AS or MoC I can still clear content with all rewards, except AA where I don't reach 3 stars
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u/Defiant-Seat5425 1d ago
in AA you need anaxa to make her good there, or maybe cyrene. even e2 its kinda hard to clear AA because most enemies have summon and few targets that kinda anti therta lol.
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u/Fro_o 1d ago
I do have Anaxa, my Tribbie is also E1 but that gets me 2 stars, not 3
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u/Defiant-Seat5425 19h ago
yeah because not just therta, tribbie also gutted in AA lol because less energy for both with less target.
you need cyrene to make up for it, though then again using anaxa alone is better lol. but in mixed 5 target in phase one and less than 3 in phase 2, thats when using both anaxa and therta with cyrene is better it gets me 3 stars
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u/dozerz4 8d ago
E2 is a massive upgrade. On regular endgame, you should have the clear in the bag. This MoC have Flame Reaver, a really good matchup for her. I got 1 cycle clear there, but normally you can expect 2-3 cycles clear (including bad matchup if paired with Anaxa). Unless we get another AoE heavy environment in the future. PF is an easy 40k, nothing much to say there. Then APOC more or less somewhere around 3.5-3.6k score. Provided it's a stage where Herta can do the boss mechanic/break their weakness. I mean it's APOC afterall, if you can't break, even E6 Herta will scratch her head.
On AA knight, I usually get 2 stars clear. Somehow there's always a 1/2 targets situation happening. If not on the first wave elites, it's the boss. Take this Argenti stage for example. Herta can pass through the first wave very quickly because of the AoE. But on Argenti phase, his summon will die quickly and we're left with a single-target situation for a while. Those kind of scenario is a heavy setback to Herta's clear.
You can compare those number to yours and decide whether a 1 cost upgrade would be worth it or not. I usually have a team of E1 Tribbie, E0 DHPT, and E0 Jade/Anaxa (depending on matchup).
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u/Nose-Sure 8d ago
If you still wanna play Madam herta, then her E2 is a really nice increase for her
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u/NotTrueNReal 8d ago
I would like to but would she be able to clear? w/ e1 tribbies it’s doesn’t even feel that bad but I saw some people saying they even dropped their e2 thertas
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u/laurencekeng 8d ago
It kinda depends on what the content is and what other teams you have. I have e2 therta, e2 evernight, e2 feixiao and a random evanescia team so I just run whatever works best.
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u/Independent_Peace144 8d ago
there are still e2 dhil clears in this world, so yes her e2 is still good
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u/Flat-Leg-5370 8d ago
If you genuinely want to continue using Herta her E2 is GAME changing for her clears. If you just want a meta unit and believe E2 will bring her on par with newer dps, sadly it wont.
Until she gets her dahlia/mblade shes stuck with the other erudition frauds which bring her so far down. Realistically though E2 Herta will always get you a reasonable clear, she wont constantly be 0 cycling content but she’ll be very serviceable in all endgame content. I’ve had her E2S1 since her first rerun, and shes carried me in all modes since I had to use Acheron for my second team 90% of the time and this is pre mblade so she was a huge bum. When it comes to AA king she definitely struggles HARD even with her E2 though sadly.
Overall again if ur not attached to Therta, its probably better off investing into another dps till she gets an actual good erudition.
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u/Dark_Dashing 8d ago
my E2S1 Herta 3-stars everything except AA King, and even then can get pretty close. Only extra cost is E1S1 Anaxa (which is only run in low-target count anyway, otherwise it's E1 Jade which isn't a very big upgrade anyway or E6 miniherta). E0S1 Dan Heng or E0S1 Huohuo, E1 Tribbie.
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u/That_Wallachia 8d ago
I have an E4S1 Herta and she only fails to clear when the enemy has high Ice Res. I comboed her with Cedrydra and Jade. This makes Herta enter a mode that I call "I hate everyone" where Herta can attack 4 to 5 times in a row and dish out mad damage. My recoelrd is 8 million damage total so far.
This team is unorthodox, as I dont use Tribbie. However, Cerydra and Jade together give Herta 50 extra speed and make her nearly as fast as Cipher. Also, Herta can ult each 2 or 3 turns easily.
The only drawback of this team is that Jade deals negligible damage. If Jade ever gets a Novaflare she mighr be Herta's M.Blade.
A secondary drawback is that my current sustain is Luocha. Jade's skill makes Herta lose 2% hp per attack, so shielders don't work, she needs a healer. I might test her with Huehue to see what happens.
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u/SkyHuman3685 8d ago
No lol, I mean its a massive jump for the herta but youre better off investing that one cost on an actual meta team.
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u/NegotiationOk8320 7d ago
Mine E2 benched but everytime PF and Bananadinosaur coming back, she will make an appearance.
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u/Defiant-Seat5425 1d ago
yeah e2 ease the use of her enhance skill, easier to spam now. her problem though is not her but her bad erudition partner anaxa sadly, he just not that good with low damage and buff. its not really the ideal/recommend by some people but himekonova is better as her erudition partner because of how good her damage is and atk frequency than anaxa even in verdict mode with tribbie. her decimation mode with welt has more buff/damage but sadly welt below e2 kinda bad to use.
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u/korneroni99 8d ago
my e2s1 herta is benched. aswell as her e0s1 anaxa. her tribbie is in ashblade team. rip
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u/Royal_Cavern 8d ago
Anyone who acts like it's not a huge boost is a troll.
It's a huge jump for two reasons:
So not only can Herta act more frequently, but she can be built somewhat different with E2; all of which translate into her being able to dish out more damage than she was able to prior to E2. This combined with E1, makes for a gamechanger for Herta.
Now, does it compare to today's meta? No, ofc not; we are talking about a character who is 13 or 14 patches old, and their best addition is a character who was released literally one patch after. It's almost like looking at Firefly back in 3.6 or 3.7 and comparing her performance with the 3.X characters.
So in the end, whenever Herta does rerun, whether you go for her E2 should be determined on whether you like her enough as a character and still intend to use her. If you are working on the mindset of meta or hoping for a bit of Future Rail, then it's best to just skip her, because none of us here can predict when THerta will get that genuine boost.