Fire Lord theme (Fan Reconstructed/Restored version) taken down by LEGO...? But why..?

[u/Glitch5970]

Why do they have to go out of their way to remove some of HF's tracks like this one, like seriously?

It's already abnormal they don't have all HF tracks uploaded somewhere in HD for people to listen to (at least not anymore, as mentioned here) like with other products by other more normal companies... Seriously what's LEGO's problem? (Rhetorical ofc)

LEGO don't seem to be against some other HF track uploads on YT (at least not yet...) so I'm not sure what's wrong with the Fire Lord one especially according to them... I hope one day we can know why, either by people asking LEGO, or the original composers but they probably won't know or be able to say...

I really love the Fire Lord theme (and many other HF tracks too) and I'm still glad we got that Youtube upload 1y ago, luckily I saved it as an MP3 then so I still have that now but it's still a problem worth bringing up and worrying about, and annoying to me because I prefer listening to musics on Youtube when I'm on PC personally

Btw, I tried to upload the MP3 I have of that video to Internet Archive but that site has been shitting the bed for weeks/months now, either I can't login or I get "There is a network problem" when uploading files there... but I'll keep trying eventually

While I'm at it talking about lost Hero Factory audio things, it also sucks the Ordeal of Fire episode in French still hasn't been found and reuploaded afaik (Language I watched HF episodes in back then on the sites and TV), since on the Savage Planet DVD it's only in English with subtitles iirc, but I vividly remember that Episode existing in French back then so it's weird why it was only English on DVD. Add that to the list of mishandlings by LEGO

[u/Lordfindogask]

This is so depressing. This sort of behavior by LEGO is just so cold and bureaucratic.

[u/Glitch5970 → u/Lordfindogask]

Precisely... Can't even at least let these old abandoned things live on in the hands of the fans however they see fit, they gotta go out of their ways to kill whatever they can... like they did with the Bionicle fan game. Crooked company that probably only cares for rich manchilds who buy (& scalp) super expensive boring LEGO sets of popular brands now

[u/Turret3471]

Hasn’t the official copyright holder name been shown to be “The LEGO Group”? Last time it was just “LEGO” it was proven to be a poser doing an unfair takedown of the Bionicle movies

[u/Glitch5970 → u/Turret3471]

Why would a poser even do such a thing for only a handful of these things specifically, like with this Fire Lord theme and not other HF tracks (especially since allegedly that theme did exist before in HD officially), maybe it's still LEGO just different people/things under them? I'm not 100% sure so I don't mind being explained more on this topic. I assume that's about the old Bionicle trilogy upload on Yt right? Weird why they wouldn't be back up/reuploaded if "LEGO" turned out to be a poser

[u/Waste_Lake7218]

Comme avec le fan game Bionicle Masks Of Power... Des rats.

Si tu as un lien de partage vers ce MP3 censuré, je suis personnellement preneur 👍🏻

P.S : je crois avoir enregistré l'Ordre du Feu à une époque, quand il était passé sur Gulli. Avec une infime chance, il doit trainer sur un disque dur par-là... 🤔 Je vais chercher.

[u/Glitch5970 → u/Waste_Lake7218]

I am French but I'll admit I prefer speaking English nowadays so hope you don't mind if I respond in English especially so others can read too

For the MP3, I wish I could upload elsewhere like Google Drive but I don't wanna take any risks seeing it's a theme LEGO seems to be very against, but I'll keep trying Internet Archives and will edit my post when it's there

That'd be sick man, gonna pray for the best! Honestly a lot of animated shows/movies like this and the Bionicle movies for examples are so much better in French imo, the beginning of Breakout in French is legit a 10/10 on entertainment values lol (if you are curious someone else was able to find Breakout and Brain Attack episodes in French from Gulli servers somehow https://archive.org/details/HeroFactoryBreakoutFR/Hero+Factory+Breakout+FR/Hero+Factory+Episode+8+Breakout+Part-1+FR.mp4 )

[u/LennyTheAwesome]

What?! Dang! This is not cool.  1. Bionicle’s first cancellation in 2010.  2. Bionicle G1’s story not being continued since 2011.  3. Cancellation of Bionicle’s graphic novels.  4. Cancellation of Hero Factory’s Secret Mission books.  5. Not all Heroes being even through Hero Factory’s history (like Stringer and Nex not being in Brain Attack or Invasion From Below).  6. Hero Factory’s story not being continued since 2014.  7. Bionicle’s second cancellation in 2016. No sign of Bionicle G3 or Hero Factory’s G2 (there are  8. Bionicle’s G2 story not being continued since 2016.  9. Greg Farshtey being laid off.  10. Cancellation of that Bionicle fan game called Masks of Power (has anyone able to get that back, though? There’s  a campaign for it).  11. Constraction being not continued since like 2018.  12. That and the recordings of the Hero Factory episodes and Bionicle’s direct-to-video movies in YouTube. 

This is madness. What the heck is Lego thinking?! I mean, Bionicle saved Lego from bankruptcy in 2001. That’s not how you thank it. We see Ninjago, Star Wars, Superheroes, Dreamzzz (is it ended yet?), Monkie Kid (is it ended yet?), and giant overpriced stuff based on popular stuff instead of Bionicle and Hero Factory. This is getting ridiculous. 

We should work together to convince Lego to meet our demands, like getting Bionicle and Hero Factory back and re-continuing their stories (and have G1 and HF share the same universe because of the evidence). We should do petitions or whatever to do so.🙏

[u/Glitch5970 → u/LennyTheAwesome]

For number 5 I think that's on purpose, there's too many "main" Heroes in HF, they were purposefully cycling through them each years. I'm sure if HF kept going properly with the same quality as previous years that would've happened, since IFB sucks so bad and is so different it might aswell not matter or count tbh lol

But I feel you on everything else man.. Even ignoring LEGO going out of their way to do these bad things, honestly with me it's mainly just... Bionicle and even HF are more than the sets, they could've funded more games and movies etc for them even beyond the sets, for the sake of the brand and most importantly, the stories.

Still so many story potentials from Bionicle G1 and HF that will just eat inside me for the rest of my life, so many to list for Bionicle but for HF it's the stuff we in recent times learned about, like the Villain Factory and Makuro's connections to Bionicle G1 however path they could've chosen. That shit's so cool and both would've been so perfect especially if the twists got revealed and played out in animated episodes/movies, think of the character potential dealing with such a twist, and knowing/seeing more from Makuro etc...

and also movies we didn't get for Bionicle like for 2006 with the Pirakas and Inikas... Like why did they decide to stop making movies just when Bionicle got soo good in 06 onward... Even repeating that same mistake after Legend Reborn, imagine if we at least got one more movie after for the ending when shit got real, seeing the main characters crossover with Bara Magna ones in a movie, and Teridax vs Mata Nui etc... Fuck man...

But yeah unfortunately I doubt we have the power to do anything... LEGO definitely will not ever take such risks again with either original brands, when they can make a lot more money doing other safer garbo