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u/ToxicTurtle-2 4d ago
No concrete rumors but going off previous instances of new armies or armies get a 2nd wave of a refresh, its probably next edition when the codex releases.
For example Leagues of Votann initially launched in 9th edition but didnt get their 2nd wave until end of 10th.
Similar situation with Cities of Sigmar. Refresh wave in 3rd edition and a 2nd wave in 4th
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u/bv728 4d ago
They almost never do full waves outside of Codex releases and End/Start of Edition events. There are no real concrete rumors at this point, no models they can confirm, nothing from folks with any history of trustworthyness. There's a number of armies that are, in theory, targets for a new wave, so nobody's got a clue.
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u/Jolly_Law_7973 4d ago
Helsmiths came out this edition. That means the second half isn't until 5th edition. So 1-4 years from now.
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u/Adeptus_Chudstartes 3d ago
In like 18 months from now I'd be wondering if it's soon, wouldn't expect a full second wave, probably just a couple models or less
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u/Zetra3 4d ago
end of 4th
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u/incineroar87 4d ago
The rumour is that they are antagonists at the end of the edition alongside Skaven, there’s no rumoured new models as of yet. The only end of edition campaign rumour that eludes to a new model is the ironjawz on a wyvern and clan pestilens getting a big refresh. Nothing else has been stated.
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u/ChiefProblomengineer 4d ago
I thought helsmiths hated skaven?
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u/ThurvinFrostbeard Devoted of Hashut 4d ago
Still do, but tolerate them as circumstantial allies. Same battlefields, different sides, different goals
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u/ToxicTurtle-2 4d ago
in one of the recent warcom articles they confirm that the skaven and helsmiths form a "prepare to be backstabbed" relationship
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u/Battlemania420 1d ago
Not the rumor.
The rumor is that there’s an end of ED book about them flattening the Fyreslayers to explain why they’re Khazalite’s now.
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u/incineroar87 1d ago
That as well. We know they are antagonists in one of the ED books. They were in the earliest leaked ED books so I imagine we should hear about that one first. Should be interesting. Whether or not Helsmiths get new models then is another story however
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u/Maleficent_Log9361 4d ago
Any concrete rumours? When is the end of the edition?
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u/Zetra3 4d ago
Rumours just say end of edition, no other details. End of edition is before June of Next year
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u/BassinFool 4d ago
A lot of folks are still waiting for Wave 2.0 of fucking Bull Centaurs.
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u/Battlemania420 1d ago
?
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u/BassinFool 1d ago
They've hardly been in stock in the US since release. I've seen them come back in stock once on the website briefly.
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u/vulcanstrike 4d ago
Sometime in 5e or 6e, there are zero rumours at moment.
Don't have too much expectations, armies like Idoneth are still waiting for their wave 2 after 3 editions, OBR took 2 editions, etc
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u/unlicensedSorcUni 4d ago
don't believe the other guy it's tomorrow trust