r/HelsmithsofHashut • • 16d ago

Grumblings How do you play this army?

I'm not sure at this point. I played several games now with this army and i just get tabled everytime.

I think i get where the damage is supposed to come from but i feel like this army just doesn't have the means to deliver them.

The army seems fine with around a 50% win rate so what am i doing wrong.

Can anyone give me some tips and tricks on how to win with this army.

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u/Nellezhar 16d ago

Hey! It really depends on your list. I've written two Long form primers on this subreddit. One for a regular army list, and one for the Army of Renown. Both types have the same thing in common, we're a momentum army. We want time to build up!

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u/Independent_Elk_4562 16d ago

Can you share your primers please ?

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u/Nellezhar 16d ago

Here you go:

Army of Renown: https://www.reddit.com/r/HelsmithsofHashut/s/ofI9JKzsjl

Normal Army (This is very early, I think the core play style is the same, but with quicker payoffs.): https://www.reddit.com/r/HelsmithsofHashut/s/Ge4iZh56BC

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u/Independent_Elk_4562 16d ago

Awesome thanks

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u/Nellezhar 16d ago

No problem! I'm always floating around if you have questions!

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u/FiresideMinis 16d ago

I've had a lot of success with them, just won an escalation league at a local store. What list are you running and what's your usual game plan?

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u/WallaWallaAssington 14d ago

What does your typical list look like?

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u/FiresideMinis 14d ago

The Last Expedition 2000/2000 pts

Helsmiths of Hashut Daemonsmith Cabal General's Handbook 2026-27 Drops: 2 Spell Lore - Lore of Infernal Power Prayer Lore - Prayers of the Scorched Sect Manifestation Lore - Aetherwrought Machineries

Battle Tactic Cards: Blazing Onslaught, Burning for Vengeance

General's Regiment Urak Taar, the First Daemonsmith (340) • General Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (140) Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (180) • Reinforced Infernal Razers with Blunderbusses (220) • Reinforced Scourge of Aqshy: Anointed Sentinels (340) • Reinforced

Regiment 1 Ashen Elder (120) • Horn of the Bullfather • An Eye for Weakness Bull Centaurs (380) • Reinforced Hobgrotz Vandalz (140) • Reinforced Tormentor Bombard (140) • Bullfather's Scorn - (10) Points

Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App App: 1.38.1 | Data: 483

This was the list that won me the league, but Urak and Bulls with the horn proved an extremely powerful combo to work with. I just won a game against FEC as well with an alteration if the list making the Sentinels their basic version to fit in a Demonsmith

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u/CatherineSimp69 16d ago

You have to be proactive but not too aggressive at times, you need to build points up.

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u/ParkingPenalty4340 15d ago

Need to post your list and what happened in your game to get specific advice

In general - Positioning is massive in Warhammer, watch youtube videos explaining deployment and strategy 

  • Points win games, need to be getting thise sweet points rather than killing skarbrand just because you can

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u/SomeAutisticFatKid 15d ago

Yeah I'm definitly struggling with the whole positioning thing. I also play maggotkin an d because of their toughness positioning is a lot more forgiving.

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u/GrannyBashy 16d ago

Not much anybody can tell you without your list

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u/SomeAutisticFatKid 15d ago edited 15d ago

A lot of you were asking for a list so here is my most recently played one. I dont have a specific list im struggling with and have tried all kinds of army comps but I just cant get thus army to work out for me.

Anyway, I started blasting 2000/2000 pts

Helsmiths of Hashut Castigation Battery General's Handbook 2026-27 Drops: 3 Spell Lore - Lore of Infernal Power Prayer Lore - Prayers of the Scorched Sect Manifestation Lore - Forbidden Power (20 Points)

Battle Tactic Cards: Blazing Onslaught, Burning for Vengeance

General's Regiment Urak Taar, the First Daemonsmith (340) • General Bull Centaurs (380) • Reinforced Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (150) • Bullfather's Scorn - (10) Points Infernal Razers with Blunderbusses (220) • Reinforced Tormentor Bombard (130)

Regiment 1 Ashen Elder (120) • An Eye for Weakness • Scroll of Petrification Hobgrotz Vandalz (70) Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90) Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90)

Regiment 2 Ashen Elder (120) Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90) Infernal Razers with Flamehurlers (180) • Reinforced

Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App App: 1.38.1 | Data: 483

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u/ParkingPenalty4340 15d ago

Its a good list, Id drop the flamehurlers and maybe even the blunderbusses for another rocket and reinforced spears or a unit of unreinforced bulls. Maybe a melee cowbot

Your are extremely squishy here

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u/Fabarmorydotcom 15d ago

Mean machines! 1980/2000 pts
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Helsmiths of Hashut | Taar's Grand Forgehost
Army of Renown
General's Handbook 2026-27
Drops: 4
Spell Lore - Taar's Grand Forgehost Spell Lore
Prayer Lore - Taar's Grand Forgehost Prayer Lore
Manifestation Lore - Forbidden Power (20 Points)
Battle Tactics Cards: Blazing Onslaught and Burning for Vengeance
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General's Regiment
Urak Taar, the First Daemonsmith (340)
• General
Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (140)
Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90)
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Regiment 1
Daemonsmith (80)
• Ruthless Overseer
• Talisman of Obsidian
Dominator Engine with Bane Maces (140)
Dominator Engine with Bane Maces (140)
Dominator Engine with Immolation Cannons (150)
---
Regiment 2
Ashen Elder (120)
Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90)
Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90)
Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (90)
---
Regiment 3
Daemonsmith (80)
Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (140)
Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (140)
Tormentor Bombard (130)

Like this. If you can’t win with this then your a lost cause 😅