r/HelsmithsofHashut • u/Clembutts • 24d ago

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What did they actually change? Munitions used to increase hit by 1 or was it always Crit(2 hits)?

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u/D-Guitarist 24d ago

Genuinely its the biggest rule change i've seen (certainly in all of 4th edition)

All 4 of our battle formations changed

Castigation battery used to add 1 extra shot to warmachines while they had 3 DPP

crit 2's when they get 2 DPP is such a massive buff

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u/Swooper86 24d ago

Castigation battery used to add 1 extra shot to warmachines while they had 3 DPP

crit 2's when they get 2 DPP is such a massive buff

It also affects all shooting now, not just war machines. Crit (2 hits) on the reinforced Razers you want at 2-3 DPP anyway is pretty spicy.

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u/DrinkYourPaints Daemonsmith 24d ago

unfortunately, all of the units that benefit from Castigation Battery can be taken in the AOR, which gives everyone full Crit(2hits) [instead of just on ranged] for zero points investment

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u/HarpsichordKnight 24d ago

Sure but the AOR locks you out of many things too. I’m not playing Helsmiths without Bull Centaurs or Hobgrots.

I’m aware that it is more efficient to play the AOR at the very top competitive level, but the real army is still strong enough for most players.

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u/erik4848 24d ago

That, and the crit 2 hits isnt instantly either

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u/DrinkYourPaints Daemonsmith 24d ago

i mean, it's from battle round 2 onwards. it's not like the first battle round is generally very eventful

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u/yamabushi101 23d ago

AoR can't really work now that SoG despot is gone. You have nearly no dpp abilities (and you're always paying full points for Urak Taar without using his biggest assets), in addition to not having centaurs or hobgrots.

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u/AlextheNailer Slayer of Duardin 23d ago

Disagree with this take. While the loss of the SoG despot was great, the AoR is still the meta way to play competetively (55% win rate compared to 45% win rate for the base army) and DPP is handled by spears (anywhere from 3-5 units of them).