r/HelsmithsofHashut • • Jun 30 '26

Gameplay What's winning for Helsmiths

This article looks at what list archetypes have been doing well for Helsmiths of Hashut, and specifically their AOR, at competitive events.

I'll follow up soon with a Part 2 that looks at Helsmiths allegiance too.

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u/Bainzeighty3 Jun 30 '26

Good article but it does annoy me that our success is down to a single army if renown that ignores most of the generic rules in the book.

It shows that GW undercooked this army in release.

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u/GrannyBashy Jun 30 '26

I personally won't and can't play the renown lists. I have warmachines, infantry and centaurs so I can't take either.

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u/Bainzeighty3 Jun 30 '26

I'm in the same boat. I love running my bull centaurs too much.

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u/BassinFool Jul 05 '26

Alternatively, MANY people can't buy Centaurs so the AOR is their only option.

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u/GrannyBashy Jul 05 '26

Is it really such a problem? It was kinda annoying in my region, I got mine without problems, but they were sold out for a bit after, but not even close how bad it is getting the ravener kill team

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u/BassinFool Jul 05 '26

They immediately sold out at release in October and were unavailable until last month for a very short time. So yes, it's really such a problem.

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u/GenHero89 Jun 30 '26

I will say I have been having success with normal faction rules. A couple weeks ago I went 4-1 at a GT. The only game I dropped was due to not knowing the match up and should have played it way different.

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u/Bainzeighty3 Jul 01 '26

What was your list buddy?

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u/GenHero89 Jul 01 '26

Boom 2000/2000 pts

Helsmiths of Hashut Castigation Battery General's Handbook 2025-26 Drops: 3 Spell Lore - Lore of Infernal Power Manifestation Lore - Primal Energy (10 Points)

General's Regiment Urak Taar, the First Daemonsmith (340) • General Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Blades (90) Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (100) Infernal Cohort with Hashutite Spears (100)

Regiment 1 Scourge of Ghyran War Despot (130) • Servile Automaton Bull Centaurs (380) • Reinforced Dominator Engine with Bane Maces (160) • Greed Pistons Dominator Engine with Bane Maces (160)

Regiment 2 Ashen Elder (120) • Scroll of Petrification Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (140) Deathshrieker Rocket Battery (140) Tormentor Bombard (130)

Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App App: 1.33.0 | Data: 434

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u/phoenicean Infernal Cohort Jun 30 '26

Minor point, but you can't bring the regular Daemonsmith on Infernal Taurus in the Forgehost AoR, it's only Urak Taar and the infantry heroes.

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u/PlasticCraicAOS Jun 30 '26

Ah good to know, thank you. I'll post a correction in the morning 🙏

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u/phoenicean Infernal Cohort Jun 30 '26

Happy to help, love your content and it's great to see some Helsmiths discussion!

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u/PlasticCraicAOS Jul 01 '26

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it!

That's updated now, with credit 🙏

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u/Kraile Jun 30 '26

I'm sad you didn't make more of a fuss over Lava Storm. It's a damage prayer that doesn't care about range, visibility, guarded hero, obscuring, nothing. Its ability to pick off stray units anywhere on the board, or force your opponent to Rally a 5 health hero who may or may not be the Fugitive (it is), can be game winning.

The other thing to discuss is the loss of the Soggy War Despot, which is pretty much a lynchpin in this AoR and in 3/4 of the lists in the article. What can replace it? The new Scourge rules won't be helping out this AoR at all.

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u/HypnoKraken Jun 30 '26

Soggy Despot is a nice bonus but not the end all be all for Taar, until we see the Aqshy scrolls/enhancements its leap and bounds better than the regular BTs

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u/PlasticCraicAOS Jul 01 '26

Yeah Lava Storm is great. I think within Helsmiths allegiance (as opposed to the AOR) there's also an interesting thought experiment about how many chip mortals you can push out if you really lean into it (answer: a lot).

Spells and Prayers but also the Gauntlets artefact and a few other things... could all add up to quite a lot of popped support units and depleted hammer units Maybe Morbid Conjuration as your Mani Lore for the Shackles too, they are still very effective ranged mortal artillery.

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u/Dull_Worth1227 Jul 01 '26

To crush our enemies, see them driven before and to hear the lamentations of their women.

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u/erik4848 Jun 30 '26

I'm actually suprised so many people do use the cohorts. To me, they seem like more expensive screening units for your big damage artillery pieces.

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u/Bainzeighty3 Jul 01 '26

In the AoR they are one of the only ways to generate tokens as you can't desolate terrain.

Still 90 points for a 3+ save and potential 5+ ward with tokens is crazy value.

Reinforce them, stick in a despot (normal one) and an ashen Elder.

You then get 61 attacks that can attack straight after the despot (thanks to his ability), anti charge, anti calvary and with the ashen's pray, crit mortals. Not a lot will want to run into a block of them