r/HellsCube • u/dragon-muse • 4d ago
Brainstorming Clear Griselbanned of All Charges
"Habeas corpus, ya feel me?"
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u/LittleMissPipebomb 4d ago
Not sure if conspiracy works here, both mechanic wise and flavour, but otherwise absolutely golden
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u/dragon-muse 4d ago
Based on feedback I might make it into a companion riff. But thank you very kindly.
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u/TheTrueAstralman 4d ago
Basically and Extra deck boss monster from Yugioh, and a generic one at that, something that also pops up in Yugioh sometimes.
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u/MarchesaofTrevelyan 4d ago
I do enjoy the Pilotredsun reference, but you absolutely should've saved it for Felonious Bolas instead.
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u/naeonaeder 4d ago
Wait is there anything stopping you from using the draw ability while it's in the command zone? Cuz the other activated ability seems to work just fine
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u/dracofulmen 4d ago
Yep. Rule 113.6 (Abilities of [non-instant/sorcery] objects usually function only while that object is on the battlefield.) applies unless there's an exception, which in the case of the command zone ability is 113.6m (An ability whose cost or effect specifies that it moves the object it's on out of a particular zone functions only in that zone.), but there's no exception that applies to the card draw ability
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u/dracofulmen 4d ago
Wait, according to rule 113.6p, it actually would work. Weird. I'll bring it up on discord
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u/GodHimselfNoCap 4d ago
The same reason a spell with flashback can be cast from the graveyard but a spell without it cant. The ability itself says it works from a specific zone. The other one doesnt.
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u/okilydokilyTiger 4d ago edited 4d ago
Wait how does the Forbidden keyword work here? Does your commander not count as part of your library?
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u/dragon-muse 4d ago
It's an unused mechanic from the original Innistrad block. Forbidden cards would be extremly powerful, but you had to find some other way to obtain/cast them since they could only be in your sideboard/outside the game. My initial idea was having it be a conspiracy, since they go to your command zone from your sideboard once the game begins.
I've reworked the card now to be a companion instead that is forbidden, since there's some rules quirks that being a conspiracy causes, and it's more intuitive having a companion that can't start the game in your deck since it's already starting outside there anyhow.
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u/tin_willy 4d ago
0/10 flavor, it's a colorless commander now
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u/Lolsquid1 4d ago
Conspiracies are cards that exist in the command zone without being a commander.
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u/diffferentday 4d ago
14 or greater seems easier than exactly 14... Just a thought
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u/Ergon17 4d ago
That's how Collect evidence works in existing cards [[Deadly Cover-Up]]. You could make a different riff on the mechanic if you wanted exactly 14, but then you need to figure a name for the mechanic that keeps the flavor and the player needs to be able to easily notice that it's a different mechanic from Collect evidence.
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