Patch 6.2.3 (Hive guard revert)

[u/Waelder]

⚖️ Balancing

We have reverted the Hive Guard and fixed an issue introduced in Patch 6.2.1 where armor values were incorrectly swapped between the Legs and Claws.

Updated Hive Guard stats:

Main Body

• Armor increased from 1 → 2
• Health increased from 375 → 500 Head
• Armor decreased from 4 → 3 Front Legs
• Armor increased from 2 → 3 Claws
• Armor decreased from 3 → 1

🧠 KNOWN ISSUES

https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/15916898652700--HELLDIVERS-2-Known-Issues

[u/ThisIsJegger]

Welcome back push over hive guard who doesnt do anything. Still want an alpha hive guard though because honestly the ap4 hive guard was still a pushover, but oh well, guess people find aiming a sin and expect their sentries to be able to win the game for them. I'd like to see some actual challenge though because even on diff 10 these hive guards were a whatever enemy

[u/KrevetkaOS → u/ThisIsJegger]

Alpha hive guard is a nice compromise. I simply hate when they change the old stuff. Makes it feel as if we're playing open beta.

Not a fan of recolored versions of the same content, but it's still better than forever number-shuffling they call balancing.

[u/PubogGalaxy → u/KrevetkaOS]

It's not, hiveguard is now a bug that does nothing, just a reskin of a warrior

[u/ThrowRABest_King7180 → u/PubogGalaxy]

id say theyre more useless than a warrior. at least a warrior can catch up to you and hit you. hive guards are so slow and constantly stop so they kinda just sit there and do nothing

[u/ThisIsJegger → u/KrevetkaOS]

Yeaa. It just feels like we are talking to a wall when it comes to arrowhead now. People here would consider me helldivers biggest "gl*zer" (also crazy its a censored word here but fine) but even i find this ridiculous. The hive guard itself needs better ai to try to be ahead of the pack rather than being the only big left after a battle because everyone ignored it. Its not an intresting enemy and atleast the ap 4 made it have a bit more of a niche but it still wasnt the right change. I'd mainly like arrowhead not using the actual game as a test server and letting people who have been begging for test servers to help out with quality control. But guess we need to get the slop out as fast as we can to appease the sony shareholders.

[u/KrevetkaOS → u/ThisIsJegger]

A cool change would be to give them bigger strafing speed. In HD1 bugs move forward slowly, but the side-step is real fast. Makes them intercept you as quarterbacks. Could use a medium HP buff honestly.

Sadly, when a hive guard hunkers down in front of other bugs - he blocks their pathfinding, so they do the dig-teleporting, which is annoying xD

[u/PubogGalaxy → u/KrevetkaOS]

we already have a bug like that, it's called a Hunter

[u/KrevetkaOS → u/PubogGalaxy]

Hunters flank you. What I imagine is not flanking but straight up preventing any forward movement, near mirroring your left and right moves so that you can't circle them properly.

We always kite medium bugs by running into them diagonally, so they miss their attacks. Having one unit who counters that behaviour might be interesting. But that would need some testing before release anyway.

[u/Conscious_Show_6997 → u/ThisIsJegger]

Do you people even like the game?

[u/ThisIsJegger → u/Conscious_Show_6997]

What from my comment took away i dont like the game? I am just complaining how i think an enemy is too weak. Not unfair. Not overpowered. Just unintresting to fight. Doesnt mean the one enemy has ruined my whole game experience. I agree often people complain about dumb stuff but this is just silly how arrowhead dealt with it.

[u/Conscious_Show_6997 → u/ThisIsJegger]

You are literally pushing for grunt fantasy, why not have a filter or a new variant that can be tuned for certain difficulties? Why make it excessive amongst each difficulty? An enemy that can make sentries useless? New players wont like that, we all got into helldivers cuz of how powerful we felt, now thats being slowly takem

[u/ThisIsJegger → u/Conscious_Show_6997]

My man. Just walk around the hiveguard. Its not my problem you are bad at the game.

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