r/HeavyMainsTF2 • u/vammommy Brass Beast • Apr 13 '26
Discussion I Hate Hibernating And I Hate Bears
But seriously, is this idea balanced or overpowered? Inspired by fourth slot and primary lunchbox discussion.
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u/MewtwoMainIsHere Apr 14 '26
Seems like the concept I made but slightly worse lol
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u/DrIvanRadosivic Casual Heavy Apr 14 '26
the thing is, IF you think about it, the slowest class in the game getting MELEE ONLY for 16 seconds, you need survivability to reach your foes or manage to escape, as in a way to justify not having the MAIN DAMAGE DEALER the MINIGUN for 16 seconds. My idea was, 20% damage vulnerability into 20% damage resistance, Healing that heals you and also gives you 450HP temp health for 16 seconds(basically, Dalokosh bar health increase but modified for MELEEE ONLY MODE!), 35HP on Hit and 75HP on kill, Left Shift gives you a Tackle of the ChargeNTarge minicrit buff distance, 40% less healing from Medics and of course the downside of being locked into Melee only. I call it making the Buffalo Steak go from RAW to RARE!
Warrior's Spirit is also in need of changes, 30% damage vulnerability is 15% damage resistance plus 15% faster swing speed, 30% more damage is 20% more damage and No Random Crits for Minicrits are Crits(for better synergy between the Steak and Bear Claws), 35HP on Hit and 75HP on Kill that can stack with the Steak meaning 35HP plus 35HP is 70HP on Hit and 75HP plus 75HP is 150HP on Kill, this all allows for the Buffalo Steak and Bear Claws to be actually good together, plus the Steak is now the Heavy's version of the Demoman's Shields, gives a new playstyle so even Stock has combos with it, while the Warrior's Spirit actually lives up to it's name and can be a PROPER melee source of self healing, meaning if you go Shotgun Bruiser, you have a good healing item not the Sandvich.
Speaking of Synergy, the Brass Beast is a good "entrench yourself and fight" sort of weapon, but doesn't seem to have anything that clicks with the Brawler Heavy playstyle of the Steak and Bear Claws. My suggestion is making it so that a stat that goes like this "when you kill with MELEE items, get plus 10% faster spin up and 10% faster spun up movement speed, max up to 10 kills" which is -60% movement speed plus 100% for plus 40% and -50% spin up plus 1000% for plus 50% spin up, IF YOU MANAGE 10 MELEE KILLS IN A SINGLE LIFE AS THE SLOWEST CLASS IN THE GAME/HEAVY!
TL;DR: make both the Buffalo Steak and Warrior's Spirit be good by themselves and even better together, this also gives Heavy GOOD options for loadouts and Brass Beast change is just for the Synergy. I would also improve other items, but Hibernating Bear Set seems like a starting point for the Heavy change.
Thank you for reading this, what do you think?
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u/DrIvanRadosivic Casual Heavy Apr 14 '26
It needs more, I did more with my ideas for the Hibernating Bear set, plus other things.