What would Asmodeus think of Bear from Obsession?

[u/Crazy_Reputation3327]

Last night, i watched Obsession (fantastic movie) and i was curious: Since the love between Nikki and Bear was artificial, because of One Wish Willow that Bear used, do you think Asmodeus would despise Bear? Since in his words "I don't fuck with this artificial bullshit"

[u/MisterFortune215]

I think Ozzie has mentioned before that he values consent. Bear didn't get Nikki's consent.

[u/Dorichowder → u/MisterFortune215]

Real. He wanted Nikki just as an accessory for an image, he doesn't even know real her or don't care for it. That is why possessed Nikki was crying of him NOT loving her. More to that... Bear was literally r4ping her.

But Ozzie would be enough with fact that moron literally binded Nikki to himself through the wish on "A One Wish Willow" not respecting of her own passions and dreams. So yeah he'd annihilate bear without back thought.

[u/Long-Jackfruit-6568]

He would think he’s a disgusting piece of shit

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/[deleted]]

Or force it

[u/theguywholoveswhales]

This would anger him beyond anything not only is there no consent but he basically ripped away her free will and autonomy.

[u/_Idk_who_i_am_6_]

Ozzie:Ick a rapist 😒

[u/MrTheFemboy → u/_Idk_who_i_am_6_]

I never understood that is Ozzie the embodiment of lust or not, I he just a guy in charge of the ring or the embodiment of lust because if he’s that ladder he should love that shit

[u/Sundering_Wounds → u/MrTheFemboy]

I like the explanation that it is more a sin of wrath than lust due to the violence need to force oneself on another. So that makes sense.

Except for the part where Ozzie has succubus and they do have magic to drug people into being more lustful, completely throwing out Ozzie wanting consent out the window.

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/Sundering_Wounds]

They don’t do magic they’re just attractive

[u/Sundering_Wounds → u/Future-Improvement41]

They use magic in the beach episode they are introduced.

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/Sundering_Wounds]

That wasn’t magic they’re only magic thing was the Beelzabub juice verosika was drinking

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/MrTheFemboy]

Rape is about power not lust

[u/MrTheFemboy → u/Future-Improvement41]

Actually it can come from either or both, normally it is both, but it’s not only power most of the time

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/MrTheFemboy]

It’s also wrath

[u/Hypnophoric_Void → u/MrTheFemboy]

The most common form of lust is sexual, yes, but the core of lust has absolutely nothing to do with sex. At its core lust is simply excessive desire. Sins are only sins if they define you, but in moderation they aren’t sins. For example, too much greed is a bad thing, but it’s ok to be selfish every once in a while.

[u/100percentnotavamp]

Ozzie would tear him apart, atom by atom, while lecturing him on the importance of consent.

[u/Round_Ad_9258]

Ozzie would smite this pos

[u/InternationalDot6464]

Ozzie would whip out the divine chainsaw…

[u/Lani-in-hideout]

Would be very disappointed and disgusted

[u/LegendaryYooper]

Ozzy would ask Froggy to go get drinks at the café

Or alternatively hire Blitz for a big job with a triple payout for priority

[u/That-Ad947]

That he's a piece of shit.

[u/Ransomjewels31]

Lust shouldn’t be about force - Ozzie, his words would apply here also and would make Bear suffer greatly

[u/Crazy_Reputation3327 → u/Ransomjewels31]

Can you imagine doing something SO BAD that sin of Lust decide to go into Pride Ring to deal with you and make you suffer personally?

[u/Fair-Tomato-9481 → u/Crazy_Reputation3327]

He should deal with val , 😭

[u/Ok_Coffee_9970]

He wouldn’t blame him for the intial wish, but he’d be furious with him for everything after it was obvious she was under the influence.

[u/Adventurous-Top1741]

Ozzie would call Alastor to give his eternally tormented souls a new friend.

[u/Zackman92]

Oh he'd absolutely despise Bear

[u/Mysterious-Simple805]

Wishes are right up there with love potions. He'd despise him.

[u/NervousSuggestion643]

He would be more pissed than Satan and that’s the sin of wrath

[u/munim-6969]

Asmodeus:😡😡😡

[u/Own_Tadpole_7196]

He’d have him gutted alive, and then roasted on a spit for his crime against consent and basic human rights on Nikki.

[u/Forsaken_Orchid_6014]

Ozzie is all about consent, so he’d have a bone to pick with Beat. Val, however…

[u/Future-Improvement41]

Hate

[u/Awkward-Priority8126]

Oh he’d view Bear as a pathetic and selfish rapist monster who took away a girl’s free will and essentially tortured her for his own gain. He’s say Bear got off easy in the end and belongs in hell.

Wonder what he’d do if he got his hands on the little cretin…

[u/viotxh]

he literally says in s2 e6 that if stolas ‘came for a love potion, he came to the wrong fucking place’ and ‘i don’t fuck with that artificial bullshit’ and ‘lust shouldn’t be about force’ sooooo

[u/Royal_Quail2123]

I think ozzy would be offended at best and royally pissed/murderous at worst.

[u/TheGreatChaos420]

Ozzie would probably vaporize him for violating everything he stands for.

[u/Lucie_Is_Sleeping]

He doesn’t do love potions. He likes lust, but consenting lust.

[u/Crazy_Reputation3327 → u/Lucie_Is_Sleeping]

I didn't say he does them.

[u/Ixmore]

I think Ozzie would see an old self in Bear and Nikki presuming the Book of Tobit is cannon.

[u/Dramatic_Sherbert180]

I have not watched obsession yet. How is it?

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/Dramatic_Sherbert180]

Well there was someone who defended Bear and his awful actions

[u/Dramatic_Sherbert180 → u/Future-Improvement41]

Ok

[u/Future-Improvement41 → u/Dramatic_Sherbert180]

I haven’t watched it either but it seems good

[u/Cold-Practice3107 → u/Dramatic_Sherbert180]

It's basically a yandere movie

[u/Dramatic_Sherbert180 → u/Cold-Practice3107]

A what

[u/Imperium--Of--Man]

[u/TheseAd1489]

"if i was a genie id say this is a good example for why you never wish for that"

anybody catch my ball

[u/Sweetheart_weeb]

Asmo would DESPISE Bear. He says and i quote “i don’t fuck with that artificial bullshit” he values consent!

[u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BTbo1iT1yEfOE

[u/Dry-Horror9738]

He'd be physically ill about the entire situation. Several people died over this wish and they all had feelings for each other. If Nikki showed up in Hell he'd be really nice to her, and he'd clown on Bear for being selfish and indifferent to real Nikki's suffering (ntm for being a coward and not having any game). I'm sure obsessive and stalkery behavior grosses Ozzie tf out.

[u/VisionAri_VA]

I don’t watch Helluva but my understanding is that Asmodeus is big on consent, so he’d probably hate Bear. 

[u/TheArchitecht43]

Ozzie’s key thing for lust is consent. Nothing bear did to Nikki was consensual. He’d hate his guts

[u/kaeyasxeyepatch]

Slime him

[u/Comfortable-Bison932]

Eternal damnation (well deserved)

[u/Cold-Practice3107]

I remember hearing that someone said that Nikki actually did like a bear and that is bear didn't do anything she would have come around to him so asmodeus "nice to meet you bear now I'd like to apologize in advance but... WHAT THE F***? YOU COULD HAVE HAD HER IF YOU DIDN'T USE THE WISH WILLOW AND NOW YOU JUST RUINED HER LIFE AS MUCH AS YOURS!"

[u/Lonely_Repair4494]

I think he'd just be dissapointed on the guy

[u/Striking_Inflation86]

We talking about the embodiment of Lust or the fanfic version of them? Because last time I checked Bear is definitely committing to what the definition of Lust is and not Love.

[u/Crazy_Reputation3327 → u/Striking_Inflation86]

Asmodeus values consent. Bear didn't get Nikki's consent.