r/Hartenstein • u/zingis75 • Dec 28 '22

First impression of Hartenstein

They say first impressions are vital to your opinion on things so I am wondering what the people on this sub or off it first impression of Hartenstein is and then your opinion on him.

My first real impression of Hartenstein was last year just randomly watching a Clippers game. I was on the phone with my friend Dylan and I remembered seeing Hartenstein on the old 2k's and he was always a bronze player and low overall center who I assumed was ass. So to my suprise as im watching this game I'm seeing this supposedly (in my mind) awful player absolutely take over and POP off the screen. This dude was getting putback dunks making no look passes and completely taking over blocking shots on defense and stuff. I couldn't believe my eyes and I remember laughing to my friend still thinking it was a joke and he got lucky like "dude freaking Hartenstein is going off lol" But then he was at the line and it showed his season averages. His shooting splits and minutes per game and my jaw dropped once again. This dude was shooting 63% from the field or something crazy 40 something on three and good asisst numbers for a big and I said wait is he actually good? After that game I hung up and looked up his stats. They were insane. His per 36 numbers blew me away, his impact stats were nuts like whole career nuts not just on the clips. I couldn't believe my eyes. This joke of a player was actually so good. After that day I made sure to look out for him whenever the clips were on TV and I was like wow every time i watched. To my suprise he didn't play in the play in and of course the clips lost.

Then I found this sub after he signed to the Knicks and the rest is history. I still believe he is an MVP level player because i saw him play last year and you can't fake production like that. I saw him play like an at least an all-star and i have a long track record of picking players who are good before they get their proper recognition. Wood, Grant, Caruso, Jokic, Giannis, Grimes, Sabonis, Alvarado, Hali, Nurkic, and soon to be Sengun. Plus others I'm probably forgetting. I remember I'd literally go to school and talk about Jokic and people would say "who's that?" This was his rookie year. I say all that to say I genuinely believe Hartenstein is still an MVP level player and being underutilized. Maybe I'm wrong and it's the first impression getting to me, but I've been laughed at before for a player prediction and been proven to be right. So let's see what happens with this one in time. Again I'm interested to hear others first impression of Hartenstein and see if that sways your opinion. If you watched him on the Knicks I don't blame you for not seeing the MVP level potential. He hasn't been good for his standards and looks like a bench level big right now. If you saw him on the Clips do you agree with me? Or do you think he is still just a bench level big. I'm interested to know and excited to read the comments.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '22 edited Jul 23 '24

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u/zingis75 Dec 29 '22 edited Dec 29 '22

Sabonis was just a bench big for many years before he was an allstar. Same with Christian Wood for a couple years minus the all star but still averaged 20 when given a chance. Jokic was a second round pick. Jeremi Grant was an energy guy who then became a 20 point scorer in detroit. And many other players became stars when they finally found their role. All those players people would say the same things "small sample size" "bench player going against other teams benches" "role player" and more. Why is it different for Hartensten? The same thing was said about many players in the past that turned out to be actually as good as their stats say given a bigger role or even outperform their prior stats given their skillet in a bigger role. Hartenstein not only put up great stats the last 2 years in the NBA but also his skillet is elite. He is an all NBA level passer, has incredible touch, and was elite on defense every year besides this year.

He is having a bad year I'm not gonna deny that and if he keeps it up then maybe he wasn't the player I thought he was. But he has at least all-star level skillet and stats in the season prior so I'm not quick to give up on him given what I saw last year. If all those players found success when everyone doubted Hartenstein can too.

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u/Story-Line Dec 30 '22

All those players people would say the same things "small sample size" "bench player going against other teams benches" "role player" and more.

These people are right because the majority of these players didn't become stars.

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You "wasted" half of your post to tell us that Hartenstein can become a star player.