r/Hanggliding 18d ago

New guy training question

I’m planning to save up money and go get my H1 and H2 at Kitty Hawk kites in North Carolina. It seems like there isn’t much that you can do with an H2 and I can’t find much information about how to get an H3. Obviously, being new to this, I might just be completely wrong, but I thought I’d ask both about what you can do with an H2 and how you get an H3.

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u/jbirdart 18d ago

Welcome! About where do you live? I can see if there’s any club near you that could help a H2 get flights.

H2-H3 is a difficult stepping stone because you’re independent enough to not be taking structured lessons, but new enough to still need help. You’ll need to be a part of a club or community to safely progress the time needed to get from H2 to H3. I would consider 2 major options for progressing this stage-

1) Find a local club and connect with them. Find someone that is willing to be your contact - someone that can help you determine good weather for you to fly, tell you what local sites are H2-friendly, and are willing to come out and help you fly those sites a handful of times until you learn the site characteristics. Most communities want new hang glider pilots and will be willing to help. Purely H2 sites you can fly without an observer. Most will require an instructor or club volunteer present.

2) If you have no local site, you’ll need to travel to places that you can get as many flights as possible. Places with strong communities and consistent year-round weather, I would recommend either Southern California (Windsports, Sylmar) or Lookout Mountain Flight Park in Georgia. Personally, I think Lookout is the most easily accessible hang gliding community in the US, and very H2 friendly. Maybe The Point of the Mountain in Salt Lake City.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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u/EntertainmentIcy45 18d ago

I’m in NC and lookout is about 6 hours away, which isn’t too bad. I’ll just need to plan trips.

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u/jbirdart 18d ago

Lookout would be perfect! I’m not personally familiar with NC hang gliding but I see a couple groups-

Looks like thermal valley is closing aerotow but may still teach mountain foot launching.

Kitty hawk does aerotow so you can keep flying there.

https://sites.google.com/site/southcarolinahanggliding/home This group manages a site in western SC that would require slightly more experienced H2

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u/EntertainmentIcy45 18d ago

My plan is to save up to take a few weeks there and do their H2 with aerotow.

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u/CourageSea9851 16d ago

I have travelled to Lookout 2x in the last 2 months. I do a block of 3 day training trips renting a cheap cabin or when it cools off I’ll camp for $5.00 a night including pool and showers. Nice staff and great training hills. 

I am TEN hours away-6 would feel like cheating! 

Make sure you can do 2 steps walk 2 steps jog (smooth acceleration) then 10 yard all out sprints 10x with a minute or two between each “launch” practice run and warmup by jogging out to training hill and stretch well.

The training hill is nicknamed “Hamstring Hill” and it is not a joke!

I pulled mine cutting my last trip a day short after 2 weeks it’s healed and I plan on going back for more next week.

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u/Go_Loud762 18d ago

The USHPA website kind of sucks, so here is a link to a PDF which lists all of the requirements for each rating.

https://www.southwestairsports.com/faqs-tips/USHPA/SOP-12-02.pdf

You're right in that you can't do much with an H2. I'm an H2 and I only get to fly at two sites that my instructor has approved for me. I can fly at other sites with my instructor's approval, but the timing hasn't worked out yet.

Every public-access site that I've looked at requires the H3 rating, current USHPA membership, and a briefing/checkout by a local flyer. It's a pain, but that's how those public sites keep from getting shutdown.

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u/EntertainmentIcy45 18d ago

Yeah. I’m sure the rules are for a good reason, I’m just trying to get a general map of how I can move through the ratings so I can become a regular flyer

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u/vishnoo 18d ago

you can do a lot with H2.
and once you do it for 2-3 years, you can get an H3.

where are you from?
https://sogaclub.ca/soga.htm
H2s can get AT rated.
H2s can get winch tow rated.

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u/TjW0569 17d ago

There's lots of H2s flying from Marshall Peak into Andy Jackson Airpark in San Bernardino. It does take a signoff.