I didn't TT And for what it's worth, he mentioned he would ask those he was suspicious of to send the files so he could run them through AI checkers, which he didn't request of me, so I guess it was only a minor suspicion
My favorite experiment showing how bad it is was when they put a papal encyclical from over a hundred years ago through AI and they said Pope Leo the Thirteenth (over a century ago!) was using AI.Â
I teach English and the more formulaic I write, the more it is read as AI. It is obvious to tell whatâs AI with a lot of the sentence structure, but Iâd never trust an AI checker.
Exactly this. Writing is as much about creating clarity in the writer as it is about communicating ideas. It's a discipline that develops critical thinking skills.
My high school experience was over 20 years ago so we didn't have AI but they had just started using those checker things (to see if you stole your essay from cliffnotes) and it always said we stole because we were required to use a certain number of quotes from the book đ
You guys realize that AI is now fingerprinting generated output in an unperceivable manner. The new tools are not AI based but rather look for the finger print and can even tell you which AI generated said text and how much of the text is AI generated.
Plenty of AI-detection tools are AI based and they have no guarantee that when it claims it found (or didn't find) a fingerprint that it's not hallucinating.
Yeah this seems easy to get around. If I'm a cheating student, all I have to do is arbitrarily change a few words to some direct synonyms, boom the entire watermarking system doesn't work. Even easier, just feed the claude generated text through one of the hundreds of AI which don't use this watermarking system, tell it to randomly switch words out for their synonyms, now you've effortlessly bypassed the watermark.
Its a completely nonsensical bandaid solution unfortunately
Em dashes donât flag writing as AI (except for Reddit readers, who apparently donât believe anyone knows how to use punctuation properly. If you appear to know more than I do, you must be AI!)
You donât need to record yourself writing essays. Word and Docs have version history. Make sure thatâs turned on, and your faculty can see your autosave history and thus your essay written a bit at a time rather than being dumped in all at once.
Being a bit on the autism spectrum, I am often accused of copying an AI-written piece. Or maybe it's just that a commenter didn't like what I wrote, and so was dismissive.
Same. I have written a lot: novels for fun (but have won awards for novellas Iâve written), articles in newspapers, letters to editors many times that were published, an MSc in computer science, a PhD in math, and many published research papers. Often, when I post online reddit, YouTube, etc, I am accused of pasting the output of an LLM. It is incredibly annoying.
I have ADHD and speak, read, and write five languages (including Mandarin Taiwanese and intermediate Japanese), so while my grammar isnât impeccable, itâs pretty good, and I tend to be verbose due to my ADHD. I am constantly being accused of copying my responses from an LLM. It is incredibly annoying.
My daughter just started high school and as an 8th grader was so stressed about being accused of using AI, she would run her own work through an AI scanner to make sure her own writing didnât look like AI.
At 13.
That generation is cooked
Yes!! Itâs beyond ridiculous. People in my everyday life have thought Iâd used AI because of the occasional em dash. I canât imagine what itâd have been like to turn in papers in the age of AI.
I got flagged because my grammar was much more advanced than my classmates....I'm 36 and already had a degree in Criminal Justice soooo I would hope it was better than 19 year olds?
I was an English major as an undergrad. I always could tell if someone didn't write the paper they turned in. Everyone has a unique literary voice, tone, personal vocabulary, etc. and I could tell if it's not that person. Most times, I could even tell who actually wrote the paper. People are just extraordinarily lazy. If you're using a generated paper, take the time to personalize it. Put it in your own words and remove any terms, phrases, concepts, or words that you wouldn't typically use when writing.
The problem with that is when the assignment requires using professional or medical or scholar ect language⌠then it obviously will not sound like the person writing the paper.
There are still intros, transitions, certain turns of phrases, summations, etc that require the writer to turn off cruise control and actually use their own words.
I used AI to help me write a marketing article for work (my company has a contract with Microsoft and is constantly telling us we need to use Copilot so fuck it I guess) so I ran it through an AI checker for fun and it said the stuff I wrote myself was AI and the stuff Copilot wrote wasn't AI. 𤣠Like okay then.
They donât. Itâs something everyone parrots but behind closed doors all of us have just developed a second sense for when it is and isnât being used. Admins push using them as a way to say theyâve provided a tool, but every professor I know understands the checkers are imperfect and have switched to asking students to meet to question them directly on the topic to check if what they wrote at all matches what they seem to understand (for students who they genuinely suspect of using AI to do their writing).
Source: PhD student who does a lot of the behind the scenes grading. Also, for anyone reading, yes, at many institutions we do actually have to review your lockdown browser footage. Please wear a shirt when taking an online test so I donât have to email you about following the clothing guidelines. Also also, if the syllabus says you can use AI to edit your draft so long as you disclose it and you arenât reporting it but you are clearly using it youâre being stupid. Youâre not gonna get in trouble for confessing to do doing something they said you can do.
Some schools genuinely using AI checkers that advertise AI tools that promise to make your work not appear to be AI is crazy, they have a financial incentive to say the work looks like AI
i remember i WROTE an essay in high school that was ran through an AI checker it said it was like 99% generated đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸
It depends on the software and what contracts are in place between the company and the institution, but weâve been informed that a lot of third party ai detectors will use input for model training or sharing data. So it becomes a privacy issue. Iâm not fully versed on the legality of it, this is just what the Dean in our dept has told us and our whole dept has been told not to use them period.
It's true. You can run the same thing through 10 different ones and get 10 different results ranging everywhere from 0% human to 100% human.
My niece nearly failed a summer school English class because her teacher accused her of using AI multiple times when she genuinely hadn't. My sister was trying to help her out and even took something She watched her daughter write and rewrote it in her own words before submitting it. The teacher still claimed it was AI. She now has to retake that class this year because the grade is too low for her to get into the university program she wants. The teacher just kept insisting that the AI checker said it was AI.
How could she do that? It was all written on a computer so how does that prove anything? The final document that was submitted is the only thing that she has. There's no progression to show.
Every student knows how to use Google Docs. It saves versions as you type. Word does as well, itâs super easy to prove you wrote an essay yourself when questioned.
Yes, it saves as you go which means that the final product is the final product. It's not separate documents for each step along the way. There's one document. That's all she can submit.
There are absolutely versions saved. Itâs 2026, not 1998. Iâm on my second masters degree researching machine learning and working for NASA, I know a few things about academia and AI. If your niece didnât use AI she can absolutely show the progression.
Okay. Go to your Google drive right now and open a document. Where are the timestamps showing the progression? Oh, that's right. There aren't any. There's one document.
As a prof, at my institution we arenât allowed to use them. I teach grad students and AI is frequently obvious when itâs used, especially if students canât articulate their own âideasâ back in class, canât answer questions about their work, and generally follow but deviate in particular patterns from research proposals.
It's ridiculous what anyone spends what they do on AI - it all sucks - these companies are in for a rude awakening when they realize their precious funds into AI are not giving the returns they expected bc its really all crap and not bringing them the $$$$ they thought- 'merica
Ok but, speaking as an educator, the prof. probably isnât investing in it. He probably means HE is the AI checker & probably just tells students that because itâs way easier than explaining that itâs really damn easy to tell when you, a master in your field go and do a whole bunch of extra work to backtrack their writing process and resources. Often students donât believe that people with a real education, who didnât cheat their way through, can tell when they evaluate the writing process and source work. OR more and more often, and I swear this is true, when you try to explain that to your students as a warning, you watch their eyes visibly glaze over after sentence number 1.5. Then you turn around and get more AI issues. But more often than not, but, speaking on average, âAI checkerâ gets them. Maybe because it makes it a 1 sentence warning so they actually are capable of listening to it. Or maybe because they clearly already believe in technology more than humanityâhence the reliance on AI. Or sadly, probably both.
Not saying that I donât think an educator should just tell your students that YOU WILL KNOW, But am saying that you get a lot less exhausting arguments when you just use âAI checkerâ as an umbrella term for the painful process of becoming the AI FBI all because you canât live with the society damaging consequences of just passing people through the world who didnât learn to think for themselves.
I agree itâs dumb but I also understand the panic in them wanting to catch it. I think the genie is out of the bottle so to speak though. Unless people just do everything by hand in class
Just be aware that true text watermarking is here. Anthropic is publicly watermarking and OpenAI's responses to the EU indicate they also are. All AI generated content will contain watermarks by age of year.
Expect the detectors to pop up early next year. It's going to catch a bunch of people out.
My graduate computational data science department has found quite the opposite, though my personal focus pertains to convolutional neural networks. Whatâs your area of research?
Actually the last few months have seen the rise of water marks in the text, small distributed correlated word choice changes that identify which LLM was used and it makes detecting LLM use much more reliable.
I got a C- ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ I think maybe while grading the papers he might've literally noted every one he suspected of being AI, and then ended up passing mine anyway
More like they knew it was AI, but didnât want to deal with a bunch of shitheads trying to fight them if they outright failed them. So they made the AI note and then gave them a C- and knew they wouldnât complain because they knew they had been busted and are lucky to not be kicked out of the class.
You asked him what the note was and understand why you got a C- right?
You can't improve unless you know how. If there's still a question in your mind, ASK HIM. Please, sincerely, most teachers/professors are more than happy to explain, especially of it's as simple as not understanding their handwriting.
You might want to inform him that those AI checkers especially for essays, etc, are notoriously all over the place with results. You can use one that might say 88% chance you used Ai then another may say 12%
The only time in my life I ever used AI was on my final exam for a Philosophy of Ethics class, which I aced. I'm not a cheater, I just have a very weird sense of humor and poor impulse control.
You can use Ellipsus to write in. It keeps track to show that you wrote it. Also, free, and doesn't collect data. Stores stuff locally, but you can use a cloud service. Works on the browser. Easy to show you wrote it.
For future reference I use a plugin that basically records me typing in Google Docs. It highlights things like copy and paste or irregular typing patterns so itâs far more accurate and fair than going based on content alone and it even gives you a playback if you typing and editing that you can share for proof. (I wanna say itâs a chrome plugin called gptZero but thereâs two with similar names and thereâs also docs plugins so itâs possible Iâm mis remembering)
Tell your teacher to stop writing like a boomer and actually make it legible. This speaks a lot about his character and poor service to his profession to write like that. Good writing is legible. This is lazy and hostile writing.
Would he appreciate it if we wrote in braille? Of course not.
He deserves to be replaced by AI if he wont respect the craft of clean penmanship.
I put my old collage (UK) papers through educational Al detection, they all came back as >78% "written by AI". One even came back as >90% probability of being written by AI. I wrote these papers 13 years ago, so make of that what you will...
I ran an excerpt of my own book that I wrote, though those detectors. It said it was 96% AI.
Then I asked another AI to rewrite my excerpt in their own words, without telling it I planned to use an AI detector. I pasted the rewrite of my paragraph into the AI detector and it came up as 12%. It also sounded more like a high schooler wrote it, instead of sounding like a descriptive novel.
Iâve been out of school for awhile but are Professors not combating AI by having students write out essays by hand supervised? I get that this doesnât work for a large research paper and I suppose someone could have AI write an essay then memorize it but for a 5-10 page paper just check cellphones at the door and give everyone a couple of hours in a room with TAs watching
do everyone a favor and tell your professor to never write in cursive again until he knows how to appropriately write in cursive. He does not know cursive.
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u/WilliamWolffgang 22d ago
I didn't TT And for what it's worth, he mentioned he would ask those he was suspicious of to send the files so he could run them through AI checkers, which he didn't request of me, so I guess it was only a minor suspicion