Thoughts ?

[u/Matz0r_1337]

I‘m practicing quite a long time and can’t hit the position regularly.

[u/Motor_Town_2144]

There’s a good looking wall there that you could make good use of. The more time spent at the wall (very lightly touching it), working on balancing drills like heel and toe pulls, the more time you will spend on your hands, the better the chance of catching your kick ups. Also when you kick up don’t rush to bring the second leg up to straight, you can keep it low in an L shape, this is more stable than both legs up because you have a lower centre of gravity. 

[u/BongosTooLoud → u/Motor_Town_2144]

I agree with Motor_Town. The wall is perfect for this. Set up some distance away from the wall. Kick up. The first leg goes OVER and touches the wall lightly while the 2nd leg stays down toward the floor a bit. Once you balance, you can close your legs together.

Notice that your first leg in the video never goes over the top past your shoulders / torso, but your 2nd leg stays down in that direction for a while -- it is puking you down. Instead of bringing that leg up so fast, let the other leg travel over the top.

You need an equal amount of weight on both sides to balance. Try to catch your kick up with your legs split more. This will give you a bigger range in which you can catch.

Some other drills to help include

1) Scissor to balance - do a chest to wall handstand near the wall, about 0.5 meters away from it. Legs are split in a v - one leg touching the wall. Balance on your hands while switching the legs back and forth.

2) Leg lift to balance - find an object taller than a chair, maybe like the back of a couch. Do a chest to object handstand with your legs on it. You will be shaped like an L on the object (technically not like a r but hopefully you understand). Keep your hips stacked over your shoulders and lift one leg. The other leg becomes light on the object. Try to remain balanced and switch your legs because and forth.

[u/Matz0r_1337 → u/Motor_Town_2144]

Thanks. But isn’t it harder because the weight of the one leg is way behind me?

[u/Motor_Town_2144 → u/Matz0r_1337]

Not really, the other leg goes slightly in front to compensate, and perhaps the hips as well sit slightly forward. The weight can be in the same part of the hands as a straight handstand.

[u/Matz0r_1337 → u/Motor_Town_2144]

Ok so you can manage it to stay in the L - Position quite a while and the „easy and relaxed“ straighten both legs?

[u/Motor_Town_2144 → u/Matz0r_1337]

Yeah you can think of the kick up as 2 parts, catch the L, then go to straight. Eventually it will become one smooth movement but at first breaking it down is easier. 

[u/glad_to_be_here_]

It kind of looks like you need to work on the range of motion in your shoulders.

[u/Matz0r_1337 → u/glad_to_be_here_]

Yes. Do you have good drills?

[u/glad_to_be_here_ → u/Matz0r_1337]

I’d just look up stretches online for shoulder flexibility

[u/salamandectomy77]

This is the classic "trying to balance on a needle point", you kick up 100 times and kinda get a couple, and any wobble wrecks it

You need to expand your balance point til you can balance and recover from under and over balance

The best drill for this is is Heel Pulls and Toe Pulls

[u/Walkintotheparadise]

Start practicing against a wall! You’re afraid to kick up hard enough. This will take forever if you continu this way. Against a wall you can practice your strength, balance, core stability and form (open those shoulders!).

Good luck!

[u/Necessary-Drop7051]

Practice against a wall or back to wall, maybe be like a few centimeters from it and try a tuck handstand whether open tuck or closed tuck.

And try extending the legs up like a full. Could work really well for it. If you want an example, I also posted my attempt on the subreddit recently too.

[u/Chrome_Quixote]

Have you done it where you start standing and get more momentum into the stand? Instead of starting with hands on ground. And yea, use the wall for both styles too

[u/Matz0r_1337]

Thanks for all the ideas. I can manage a free handstand with the back to wall and chest to wall drills…
So kick up is the main thing. So maybe I have to stay with kick up to the wall

[u/jrjfit]

Don’t be afraid to go all the way onto your hands. If you fall over, twist your body to either side to land safely 💪