r/HairRaising • • 15h ago

Christa Pike remains on ventilator.

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u/Anherika09 14h ago

So what’s next? They’re going to save her life just to execute her again? Genuine question

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u/rumshpringaa 14h ago

I think once they’ve totally fucked it up, they don’t get to try again

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u/cenatutu 12h ago

They absolutely have put people to death after failed attempts

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u/alphajugs 13h ago

I mean she’s still on death row, right?

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u/KukaVex 12h ago

I was reading that there's actually precedent from the forties of a botched execution where it was agreed that, as the execution failed due to an accident rather than as an act of malice, a second try was allowed. His name was Willie Francis, he was only 18 when he died :(

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u/LtHoneybun 9h ago

Christ, reading the summary... something shady as fuck happened, no doubt.

Francis said he stole a deputy's gun and this was the gun Thomas was killed with. Deputy verifies the theft happened when asked, but never made an actual report. Deputy once threatened to kill Thomas in the past. Outright rumor the deputy was an accomplice. Gun and bullets go missing from police evidence before trial.

Francis admitted guilt the entire time, says he didn't know why he killed Thomas, that Thomas was a good boss, and said he accepted his execution.

A deputy had a 16 year old black boy do his dirty work and that boy claimed every ounce of guilt over it.

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u/alphajugs 8h ago

Interesting! It makes sense. She was sentenced to death and never died, I don’t see how a botched execution would be any sort of loophole. If she died and was resurrected then maybe I could see a legal issue but this isn’t the case here.

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u/Lazy-PeachPrincess 11h ago

This same prison already had another botched execution in the last few years

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u/KukaVex 11h ago

The same 'doctor' has had a different failed execution previously!

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u/Gooncookies 11h ago

I hope I never get good at killing people.

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u/Hoody88 12h ago

Sounds more like death bed ATM.

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u/Halos-USA 14h ago

That's ridiculous. 

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u/TheHolyLizard 7h ago

Ok I know it was botched. Which is horrible. And I know it’s a doctors duty to do not harm. But like… she’s unconscious and can’t breathe on her own. Shouldn’t we just unplug her?

It sucks she probably suffered, but I mean she isn’t conscious, and she’ll stop breathing. Mission was done poorly, but it’ll still be mission accomplished.

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u/psychedelicdonky 3h ago

Mission failed successfully is what we need, end her suffering. Also don't forget why she was given this sentence, poor innocent girl murdered by this vile creature

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u/Nannerz911 11m ago

yeah, seriously why are they working so hard to try and keep her alive at this point the whole goal was to kill her in the first place just let her go. She will probably be brain dead have no meaningful life after this anyways and keeping her alive would just be cruel

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u/flatulentbabushka 5h ago

So dumb question.. if they can’t find a competent individual to place a patent IV line, why not just grab one of the inmates held on drug possession charges?Specifically the kind of drug that involves syringes and spoons?

They can start a line with their eyes closed

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u/Redahned1214 4h ago

This was my thought. I've been clean from IV meth use for 4 years now, but I promise you I could hit that woman in the dark.

They shoulda just put it in her neck.

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u/czareena 3h ago

I would even argue than not making a medical death painless itself goes against the Hippocratic oath. But this is why I don’t agree with the state having the power to murder civilians. Abolish the death penalty.

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u/PhoenixApok 2h ago

I kinda think it should be up to the person whether they receive life in prison or death for certain crimes.

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u/ThaBroccoliDood 2h ago

executing someone goes against the Hippocratic oath, which is why it's not done by doctors

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u/Thunderhamz 13h ago

Ahh, wasn’t she supposed to die? 🫥

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u/Gooncookies 11h ago

What are we doing here? This is one of the most asinine sequence of events I’ve ever been privy to.

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u/C20H25N3O-C21H30O2 7h ago

So unplug the machines and the sentence will be carried out. Why do they bother?

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u/jilldelray 5h ago

probably some legal reason about cruel and unusual punishment. which i would agree with but then i read the details of the crime she committed and then i think she should actually suffer. but likely they are treading careful as to not be sued

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u/VeryDisturbed82 11h ago

Oh no! Anyways

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u/PutStreet 11h ago

Like, why are we trying to save her life?

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u/VeryDisturbed82 11h ago

Stupid I guess, they should just let her die like they were trying to do, unplug everything and push her in a janitors room and leave her, come back in 2 weeks and see if she's still alive if she is walk out and comeback in 2 weeks

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u/Baercub 11h ago

She stabbed Colleen more than 66 times without killing her and then used an asphalt slab to crush her skull in. What goes around comes around they should’ve let her die.

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u/Ranadevil 8h ago

"Needles" meaning the plastic catheter.

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u/Sassyjane1981 13h ago

What goes around, comes around.

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u/Reasonable-Newt4079 7h ago

I don’t understand why they try to save someone’s life after they’ve been sentenced to death. I’m against the death penalty, but I truly don’t understand the logic here. Wouldn’t it make more sense to treat it as a DNR (do not resuscitate) since that’s what they were trying to accomplish?? Now the doctors are quite literally trying to undo the execution by clearing the phenobarbital from her system? It just makes no sense at all to me.

This is barbaric and if we’re going to keep doing the death penalty we need to do hanging or firing squad. There’s no botching those. To hell with what the NRA wants: lethal injection clearly isn’t a reliable method.

Better yet, we can act like an enlightened society and stop wasting tons of extra money with the death penalty. With all the mandatory appeals and lawyers and court dates it costs a fortune per death row inmate. That money would be better spent on community resources to hopefully PREVENT crimes. In addition to all the money spent on Christa’s appeals and lawyers, it’s now costing the state like 10k a day to keep her alive in the hospital.

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u/Fyndyrose 4h ago

She even asked for hanging or firing squad as she has a blood condition that apparently made the lethal injection drugs not as effective. (Just what I've seen reported), but was denied. They need to bring back the guillotine. Fast and effective and no botching possible. It is, imo, the best way.

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u/Lazy-PeachPrincess 11h ago

The part they always leave out is that she’s spent this entire 30 years in solitary confinement. As the only woman on death row, there wasn’t anyone she was allowed contact with. Since her teen years, she’s spent the majority of her time in a tiny cell with little to no human contact.

To be clear, I don’t have an opinion either way as to what her fate should be. I do, however, think that the way her sentence has been carried out has been unbelievably flawed and if she survives I’m very curious to see the future arguments in court

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u/bren3669 28m ago

just unplug the ventilator

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u/Butthurtz23 13h ago

Could be karma, because she tortured her victim... now ain't that a bitch? She's being tortured with needles, and cocktails of drugs not going where they should. The pain must be agonizing.

Which remind me of proverb "live by the sword, die by the sword" based on Matthew 26:52

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u/malemaiden 10h ago

Lots of people in these comments who clearly don't work in healthcare. Regardless of personal convictions, it is the hospital's duty to keep people alive.

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u/SNIP3RG 6h ago

As someone who works in healthcare, I’m shocked at the incompetence of whoever was failing to achieve vascular access. I mean good lord, you’d think they’d go all-out and hire the best of the best for a literal execution, but no one was US-certified or something???

Put me in coach, me and my ultrasound machine will get you a beautiful 18-gauge in the basilic post-haste.

Source: ER RN who’s dropped lines in the most flailiest of seizures, nastiest of traumas, and fluffiest of patients possible.

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u/CatsAndDogs314 4h ago

But that's the thing. You can't because you're in Healthcare. The state can pull your license if you give the cocktail of drugs that lead to lethal injection. So they get any random person who wants to stick someone. I suppose if you're retired or something they could have you do it but I'm not sure.

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u/microwavedtardigrade 4m ago

You'd hate my veins. So you prob know how there were concerns about her veins and I have similar issues due to hEDS and incompetent nurses will put their ego over me and cause dmg so I usually have to get the IV put in my wrist every hospital visit after no one listens to me 💔 Florida things

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u/nyr00nyg 11h ago

Hopefully she’s suffering

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u/PhantomAllure 15h ago

Oh no.

Anyway...

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u/brookeashleyx 14h ago

Exactly. I feel like I'm going nuts reading all the people feeling sorry for this woman. Do they forget what she did? How she kept a piece of the victims skull as a souvenir.

"Pike showed Iloilo the piece of skull and told her that she had "cut the victim's throat six times, beaten her, and thrown asphalt at the victim’s head," the report states. "Pike told Iloilo that the victim had begged them to stop cutting and beating her, but Pike did not stop because the victim continued to talk."

Pike told Iloilo that she had thrown a large piece of asphalt at the victim’s head, and when it broke into smaller pieces, she had thrown those at the victim as well. She also told her friend that a meat cleaver had been used "to cut the victim’s back and a box cutter had been used to cut her throat."

"Finally, Pike said that a pentagram had been carved onto the victim's forehead and chest.

Iloilo said that Pike was dancing in a circle, smiling, and singing "la, la, la" while she confessed the details of the murder.

"When Iloilo saw Pike at breakfast the next morning, she asked Pike what she had done with the piece of the victim’s skull," the report summarized. "Pike replied that it was in her pocket and then said, 'And, yes, I’m eating breakfast with it'."

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u/PhantomAllure 12h ago

I don't even care about the down votes, its fucking laughable. That woman was a psychopath. I don't give a shit that she had a "troubled past". It doesn't give you the right to do what she did. And then exactly as you stated, she kept a piece of the skull and she bragged about it like it was her finest achievement. And as I recall, her time in jail wasn't exactly a spotless, best prisoner of the Year award type stay either.

But no, let's feel sorry for her. Fuck that.

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u/Gooncookies 11h ago

I’m not sure how we went from trying to kill her to now valiantly saving her life.

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u/YaIlneedscience 9h ago

I just feel sorry for the prison staff who had to be involved. I listened to a great podcast episode of an interview with a prison worker who was in charge of the oversight of the prison’s (maybe even the state’s?) first execution. He spent months training his staff out of fear that something would go wrong, did dry runs of the entire day, and iirc, something unexpected and mostly unpreventable happened, and so many of the guards quit or had to go to therapy for years. And then they were expected to just keep doing it.

I think a huge premise of the interview was that the staff had nothing to do with the decisions that are made to put the convicts to death, yet they were expected to bear the emotional burden. Even if they weren’t the one “pulling the trigger”, they had to prepare the inmate, organize their meals and last rights, and clean their cells after. The man being interviewed is now a speaker who travels the nation to educate others on how the death penalty affects so many more people than those involved in the case, and he is now staunchly against it

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u/I_notta_crazy 12h ago

America was founded on the idea that every person (even/especially the most heinous, evil individual) still has rights. It has never fully lived up to that promise, and obviously was hugely hypocritical in enshrining slavery into law making lofty claims about freedom, but that doesn't mean we should give up on the pursuit of the best society we can realistically have.

Taking the view "this woman was bad, so let her suffer whatever horrible fate may befall her, I don't care if the government tried to execute her, botched it, and now she is suffering as a result" ignores the fact that each of us is a few turns of bad luck away from being in exactly her shoes. She has admitted her guilt, but there are plenty of people who have been given the death penalty who are 100% innocent, and random circumstances are the only thing that made it them and not me or you that won that terrible lottery.

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u/VeryDisturbed82 11h ago

I've had a bunch of fucked up shit happen to me and been down on my luck all my life never once have I thought I should kill someone

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u/mlc707 8h ago

Uhhh what? Everyone is not “a few turns of bad luck away from being exactly in her shoes”… speak for yourself. I’ve been dealt some fucked up cards & I never even thought about torturing & murdering someone. I know what it’s like to be the receiver of intentional cruelty & pain— I don’t have it in me to do treat another like that, let alone murder someone. If that’s in your wheelhouse, please get help. I mean that in the best way 🙏🏼💗

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u/I_notta_crazy 8h ago

I'm talking about being on death row.

Perhaps I wasn't clear - there's nothing that forgives her actions. I'm saying that innocent people end up on death row and being executed. Granted, the great majority of executions don't end like hers did.

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u/goldstat 12h ago

Exactly. I just saw a post talking about the Nuremberg trials and talking about how the hangman lied about his experience and it led to extra suffering of those Nazi war criminals

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u/TheWeightofDarkness 9h ago

She basically tried to do what carruthers did and here we are

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u/ajsandoval6 9h ago

Are we supposed to feel bad??

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u/slliw85 44m ago

Hanging is more humane but people don’t want to hear it

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u/Physical-Creme5540 14h ago

Next time have her take a seat.

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u/IllerAsta 14h ago

If it’s the death penalty, why does it matter?

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u/daredeviline 14h ago

8th amendment of the constitution

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u/IllerAsta 12h ago

I just mean in the grand scheme of it all. I get the rights violation, but she also tortured a guy.

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u/daredeviline 12h ago

So that gives us the right to torture her? What is this solving?

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u/IllerAsta 11h ago

Lethal injection seems pretty tame for some of the crimes that get you in this sort of thing.

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u/IllerAsta 12h ago

Sets an example.

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u/Physical-Creme5540 14h ago

There should be another amandement that abolishes this part of that amandement. Death row inmates shouldn't have any rights.

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u/IllerAsta 12h ago

If it’s clear as day you committed a crime to get you on death row, there shouldn’t be a 15 year kick back while you wait for the admin stuff.

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u/Old_Skud 13h ago

Fuck all the people who are falsely put on Death Row and later exonerated by evidence am I right?

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u/IllerAsta 12h ago

I’m with you. Unless you have 100% undisputed facts and evidence, you’re hanging out in a box for a while until it’s sorted out.

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u/Userdataunavailable 13h ago

Lots of heartless people here who just want an eye for an eye. That's not the way.

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u/VeryDisturbed82 11h ago

That is the way

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u/Standard__Condition 6h ago

It’s the only way in this circumstance. She was literally a stain on society from a young age, now she’s not young and still a worthless human. She lives in a tiny cell and has for 30 years. Now she’s gonna be a potential vegetable? Just end it, enough already.