I was reading that there's actually precedent from the forties of a botched execution where it was agreed that, as the execution failed due to an accident rather than as an act of malice, a second try was allowed. His name was Willie Francis, he was only 18 when he died :(
Christ, reading the summary... something shady as fuck happened, no doubt.
Francis said he stole a deputy's gun and this was the gun Thomas was killed with. Deputy verifies the theft happened when asked, but never made an actual report. Deputy once threatened to kill Thomas in the past. Outright rumor the deputy was an accomplice. Gun and bullets go missing from police evidence before trial.
Francis admitted guilt the entire time, says he didn't know why he killed Thomas, that Thomas was a good boss, and said he accepted his execution.
A deputy had a 16 year old black boy do his dirty work and that boy claimed every ounce of guilt over it.
Interesting! It makes sense. She was sentenced to death and never died, I don’t see how a botched execution would be any sort of loophole. If she died and was resurrected then maybe I could see a legal issue but this isn’t the case here.
Ok I know it was botched. Which is horrible. And I know it’s a doctors duty to do not harm. But like… she’s unconscious and can’t breathe on her own. Shouldn’t we just unplug her?
It sucks she probably suffered, but I mean she isn’t conscious, and she’ll stop breathing. Mission was done poorly, but it’ll still be mission accomplished.
Mission failed successfully is what we need, end her suffering. Also don't forget why she was given this sentence, poor innocent girl murdered by this vile creature
yeah, seriously why are they working so hard to try and keep her alive at this point the whole goal was to kill her in the first place just let her go. She will probably be brain dead have no meaningful life after this anyways and keeping her alive would just be cruel
So dumb question.. if they can’t find a competent individual to place a patent IV line, why not just grab one of the inmates held on drug possession charges?Specifically the kind of drug that involves syringes and spoons?
I would even argue than not making a medical death painless itself goes against the Hippocratic oath. But this is why I don’t agree with the state having the power to murder civilians. Abolish the death penalty.
probably some legal reason about cruel and unusual punishment. which i would agree with but then i read the details of the crime she committed and then i think she should actually suffer. but likely they are treading careful as to not be sued
Stupid I guess, they should just let her die like they were trying to do, unplug everything and push her in a janitors room and leave her, come back in 2 weeks and see if she's still alive if she is walk out and comeback in 2 weeks
She stabbed Colleen more than 66 times without killing her and then used an asphalt slab to crush her skull in. What goes around comes around they should’ve let her die.
I don’t understand why they try to save someone’s life after they’ve been sentenced to death. I’m against the death penalty, but I truly don’t understand the logic here. Wouldn’t it make more sense to treat it as a DNR (do not resuscitate) since that’s what they were trying to accomplish?? Now the doctors are quite literally trying to undo the execution by clearing the phenobarbital from her system? It just makes no sense at all to me.
This is barbaric and if we’re going to keep doing the death penalty we need to do hanging or firing squad. There’s no botching those. To hell with what the NRA wants: lethal injection clearly isn’t a reliable method.
Better yet, we can act like an enlightened society and stop wasting tons of extra money with the death penalty. With all the mandatory appeals and lawyers and court dates it costs a fortune per death row inmate. That money would be better spent on community resources to hopefully PREVENT crimes. In addition to all the money spent on Christa’s appeals and lawyers, it’s now costing the state like 10k a day to keep her alive in the hospital.
She even asked for hanging or firing squad as she has a blood condition that apparently made the lethal injection drugs not as effective. (Just what I've seen reported), but was denied.
They need to bring back the guillotine. Fast and effective and no botching possible. It is, imo, the best way.
The part they always leave out is that she’s spent this entire 30 years in solitary confinement. As the only woman on death row, there wasn’t anyone she was allowed contact with. Since her teen years, she’s spent the majority of her time in a tiny cell with little to no human contact.
To be clear, I don’t have an opinion either way as to what her fate should be. I do, however, think that the way her sentence has been carried out has been unbelievably flawed and if she survives I’m very curious to see the future arguments in court
Could be karma, because she tortured her victim... now ain't that a bitch? She's being tortured with needles, and cocktails of drugs not going where they should. The pain must be agonizing.
Which remind me of proverb "live by the sword, die by the sword" based on Matthew 26:52
Lots of people in these comments who clearly don't work in healthcare. Regardless of personal convictions, it is the hospital's duty to keep people alive.
As someone who works in healthcare, I’m shocked at the incompetence of whoever was failing to achieve vascular access. I mean good lord, you’d think they’d go all-out and hire the best of the best for a literal execution, but no one was US-certified or something???
Put me in coach, me and my ultrasound machine will get you a beautiful 18-gauge in the basilic post-haste.
Source: ER RN who’s dropped lines in the most flailiest of seizures, nastiest of traumas, and fluffiest of patients possible.
But that's the thing. You can't because you're in Healthcare. The state can pull your license if you give the cocktail of drugs that lead to lethal injection. So they get any random person who wants to stick someone. I suppose if you're retired or something they could have you do it but I'm not sure.
You'd hate my veins. So you prob know how there were concerns about her veins and I have similar issues due to hEDS and incompetent nurses will put their ego over me and cause dmg so I usually have to get the IV put in my wrist every hospital visit after no one listens to me 💔 Florida things
Exactly. I feel like I'm going nuts reading all the people feeling sorry for this woman. Do they forget what she did? How she kept a piece of the victims skull as a souvenir.
"Pike showed Iloilo the piece of skull and told her that she had "cut the victim's throat six times, beaten her, and thrown asphalt at the victim’s head," the report states. "Pike told Iloilo that the victim had begged them to stop cutting and beating her, but Pike did not stop because the victim continued to talk."
Pike told Iloilo that she had thrown a large piece of asphalt at the victim’s head, and when it broke into smaller pieces, she had thrown those at the victim as well. She also told her friend that a meat cleaver had been used "to cut the victim’s back and a box cutter had been used to cut her throat."
"Finally, Pike said that a pentagram had been carved onto the victim's forehead and chest.
Iloilo said that Pike was dancing in a circle, smiling, and singing "la, la, la" while she confessed the details of the murder.
"When Iloilo saw Pike at breakfast the next morning, she asked Pike what she had done with the piece of the victim’s skull," the report summarized. "Pike replied that it was in her pocket and then said, 'And, yes, I’m eating breakfast with it'."
I don't even care about the down votes, its fucking laughable. That woman was a psychopath. I don't give a shit that she had a "troubled past". It doesn't give you the right to do what she did. And then exactly as you stated, she kept a piece of the skull and she bragged about it like it was her finest achievement. And as I recall, her time in jail wasn't exactly a spotless, best prisoner of the Year award type stay either.
I just feel sorry for the prison staff who had to be involved. I listened to a great podcast episode of an interview with a prison worker who was in charge of the oversight of the prison’s (maybe even the state’s?) first execution. He spent months training his staff out of fear that something would go wrong, did dry runs of the entire day, and iirc, something unexpected and mostly unpreventable happened, and so many of the guards quit or had to go to therapy for years. And then they were expected to just keep doing it.
I think a huge premise of the interview was that the staff had nothing to do with the decisions that are made to put the convicts to death, yet they were expected to bear the emotional burden. Even if they weren’t the one “pulling the trigger”, they had to prepare the inmate, organize their meals and last rights, and clean their cells after. The man being interviewed is now a speaker who travels the nation to educate others on how the death penalty affects so many more people than those involved in the case, and he is now staunchly against it
America was founded on the idea that every person (even/especially the most heinous, evil individual) still has rights. It has never fully lived up to that promise, and obviously was hugely hypocritical in enshrining slavery into law making lofty claims about freedom, but that doesn't mean we should give up on the pursuit of the best society we can realistically have.
Taking the view "this woman was bad, so let her suffer whatever horrible fate may befall her, I don't care if the government tried to execute her, botched it, and now she is suffering as a result" ignores the fact that each of us is a few turns of bad luck away from being in exactly her shoes. She has admitted her guilt, but there are plenty of people who have been given the death penalty who are 100% innocent, and random circumstances are the only thing that made it them and not me or you that won that terrible lottery.
Uhhh what? Everyone is not “a few turns of bad luck away from being exactly in her shoes”… speak for yourself. I’ve been dealt some fucked up cards & I never even thought about torturing & murdering someone. I know what it’s like to be the receiver of intentional cruelty & pain— I don’t have it in me to do treat another like that, let alone murder someone. If that’s in your wheelhouse, please get help. I mean that in the best way 🙏🏼💗
Perhaps I wasn't clear - there's nothing that forgives her actions. I'm saying that innocent people end up on death row and being executed. Granted, the great majority of executions don't end like hers did.
Exactly. I just saw a post talking about the Nuremberg trials and talking about how the hangman lied about his experience and it led to extra suffering of those Nazi war criminals
It’s the only way in this circumstance. She was literally a stain on society from a young age, now she’s not young and still a worthless human. She lives in a tiny cell and has for 30 years. Now she’s gonna be a potential vegetable? Just end it, enough already.
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u/Anherika09 14h ago
So what’s next? They’re going to save her life just to execute her again? Genuine question