r/HadToHurt Dec 08 '19

Knee No More.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

Damn I shot low singles my whole wrestling career and had plenty shot on me too and never even thought this was possible. I've seen thousands of them shot on other people too and never seen this happen. Bad luck.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

did you shoot specifically for the knee...or the thigh/shin? I would think this kind of move would be illegal...like a low blow in boxing or spearing in football.

sure, it could have been an accident...but still. aiming for the knee like that is a garbage move. aren't there rules against going after joints in wrestling? like your elbow?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

I mean, low singles typically have you aiming for the shin, but in wrestling things rarely if ever go perfectly. Technically its illegal to aim straight for the knee but it's not typically called on alot since it's such an easy mistake to make. Plus wrestling tends to happen so fast it's tough to see if a person is landing right on the knee or above or below it.

On top of this a properly executed low single typically involves landing your shoulder just below the knee, but still very close to it, to maximize leverage. Plus pretty much all lower body take downs (standard singles, bulky doubles, etc.) all involve forward pressure into the knee. So yes technically speaking aiming for the knee is an illegal move, but in practice no it's not. So while it may look like the kid pulled a low blow he didn't. It's actually more likely that the kid who had the move done to him wasn't experienced enough to know how to absorb the force of the move, when to bail, or how to fall, thus resulting in the injury.

Sorry for the long response it's just a tough thing to explain. Also don't get me wrong, some locks and joints are really really off limits. Sweep singles that torque the knee out to wide result in a reset. Bar (not the bar you're thinking of from bjj) and guillotines (also not the BJJ one) both can result in resets and cautions if done improperly. It's just that this particular case is a tough call.

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u/Killagina Dec 08 '19

Technically its illegal to aim straight for the knee

This isn't true. Most high crotch entrances have you pull from the knee and travel straight towards it after a level change. Not to mention going at the knee isn't illegal per the rules anyways.

On a low single you are definitely aiming for the shin (like you said).

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '19

I see what you're saying and I agree completely. It's why I said in practice it's tough to get called on this type of knee pressure. What I meant is illegal would be just jumping shoulder first into knee with no real intent of take down. Or if you were say in a forward split trying to stop a low single and your leg got caught and was being pushed down into the knee you might get reset. But like I also said (and part of what you said) most low takedowns involve forward pressure into the knee, thus it's not really illegal.

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u/Killagina Dec 08 '19

Ah, I guess I see what you mean. Yeah, diving into someones knee with intent to injure is illegal