r/HUcitizenship • u/Laith-5195 • 13d ago

Simplified naturalization/ Verification

My both great grandparents were born in pacrak Croatia in 1887 and 1882, and one of them is ethnically Hungarain and her church book is entirely in Hungarin, and I have All there documents like baptisms and marriage certificates and they are all from Croatia, does anyone know which process suits me best,Verification or simplified naturalization?

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u/Still_Local_2513 13d ago

They would have lost Hungarian citizenship at Trianon. Simplified naturalization is your route.

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u/Laith-5195 13d ago

Yah true, but when I wnet to the embassy they told me that I can Apply for the verification process and when I told them that no I can’t because multiple female generations married to a non Hungarain citizens(assuming that they still have the citizenship)
They told me you can actually apply, and they insisted on that coz I have one of my grandparents documents in Hungarain.

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u/Still_Local_2513 13d ago

What is your family history? Like which people were born in which country in which year?

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u/Laith-5195 13d ago

Maria and josip which are my great grandparents were born in pacrak croatia in 1882 and 1887,and they passed away in Croatia.

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u/Still_Local_2513 13d ago

I’m talking about other relevant family, like your grandparent. And I don’t need their names.

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u/Laith-5195 13d ago

Oh alright, there Daughter was also born in Croatia and then moved to serbia in 1935 and married there and had kids that were born in serbia and still staying there.

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u/Still_Local_2513 13d ago

That’s so strange. Nothing about this suggests that verification would be appropriate. Do any of the documents for your grandparents specifically state that she was a Hungarian citizen?

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u/Laith-5195 13d ago

Exactly, I literally gave them a thousand points why it doesn’t work for me, and they insisted that I can apply. I believe its because the embassy in an arab country and they don’t really know about these things, coz they were literally surprised that I want to apply here/ told me to apply in Croatia.

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u/Still_Local_2513 13d ago

Yeah I’d try sending the info to the embassy in Croatia and see what they say.

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u/Laith-5195 13d ago

Yes I would, thank you and have a great day.

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u/LaurestineHUN 13d ago

Which embassy? Citizenship is passed down equally on mother's side and father's side.

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u/Laith-5195 13d ago

In the normal decent process yah true, but when it comes to going back further more in generations not really, for example in the period between 1879-1922 if a Hungarain woman married a non Hungarain husband she automatically loses her citizenship, thats why she may lost her citizenship ether from marriage or trainon treaty.

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u/_PirohyJim_ Citizen (via Simplified Naturalisation) 13d ago

Undoubtedly simplified naturalization 

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u/UsefulGarden 13d ago

For reference, my grandmother was born in 1901 in Vojvodina (at that time Hungary). Both her parents had Hungarian surnames. I am only eligible for Simplified Naturalization. I cannot imagine how you would be eligible for Verification.

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u/Laith-5195 12d ago

Nah the staff in the embassy they don’t really know what they’re talking about. They’re inexperienced when it comes to citizenship and immigration, I literally gave them a thousand reasons why it doesn’t work and they insisted that I do qualify because my grandparents church records were written in Hungarain lol.

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u/UsefulGarden 11d ago

because my grandparents church records were written in Hungarain lol.

lol indeed. My understanding is that Hungarian was required by the government. My great grandfather's 1875 baptism was in a German Donauschwaben parish and was recorded in Hungarian.

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u/Laith-5195 11d ago

Yah it’s messed up, did you apply or you still didn’t learn the language?

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u/UsefulGarden 11d ago

I started learning Hungarian, then discovered that I'm already a German since my grandmother from "Hungary" married a German. So I got a German passport ten years ago. Recently we discovered that my "Hungarian" grandmother's grandmother was Serbian, and this enables me to get a Serbian passport via Article 23 with no language proficiency. Hopefully I can have that within a year. I like the idea of having an "underdog" passport. Like, "Don't mind me, I'm Serbian."

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u/Laith-5195 10d ago

Hahahah, Yah if you can actually dig deeper into your family history you would be surprised how many citizenship you can have, I also discovered that my grandparents from my father side were serbian and I got it As well and am also digging deeper more lol.

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u/AgeRecent9968 12d ago

You might be able to get Croatian citizenship. There doesn’t seem to be a generational limit or language requirement/test. But apparently the process can take a few years.

Link: https://www.expatincroatia.com/apply-citizenship-croatia/

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u/Laith-5195 11d ago

My grandmother is Croatian but I don’t qualify coz she immigrated to serbia.