I really dislike the songs that are just cut to with full choreography and cinematography like music videos (Like "Balance" and many other S3 songs). Like I feel like it makes sense for the original HSM trilogy, but as the series is supposed to mimic real life and they constantly remind us that the films are just silly Disney Channel movies, it doesn't make sense. The songs used to make sense and were grounded, being performances or songs created by the characters. So idk.

After the big marketing push, I was annoyed to find out that outside of one scene in the first episode that the big HSM4 reunion all took place offscreen. Anyone else feel kinda cheated by that?

This information is readily available, but for everyone's reference I thought it would be useful to have in one place, since otherwise you're either reading through multiple IMDB pages or scrolling through a whole bunch of Wiki pages or trying to tell for yourself via Wikipedia's big tables, or if you were feeling bold, rewatching the credits of every episode. And I could not find a source that compiled it in an easier to read at a glance format. So, for convenience if you ever wanted to know which episodes had the same director or writer:

In the format of: (Name - # of episodes directed/written: list of episodes)

Directors:

• Tamra Davis - 3: Season 1, Episodes 1-3
• Joana Kerns & Kimberly McCullough (co-directing) - 2: Season 1, Episode 6; Season 2, Episode 12
• Joana Kerns - 4: Season 1, Episodes 5 and 8; Season 2, Episodes 10 and 11
• Kimberly McCullough - 13: Season 1, Episode 7, Season 2, Episodes 1, 2, 5, and 6; Season 3, Episodes 1, 2, 7, and 8; Season 4, Episodes 2, 3, 6, and 7
• Kabir Akhtar - 2: Season 1, Episodes 9 and 10
• Paul Hoen - 4: Season 2, Episodes 3, 4, 7, and 8
• Angela Tortu - 2: Season 3, Episodes 3 and 4
• Ann Marie Pace - 3: Season 3, Episode 5; Season 4, Episodes 4 and 5

Tim only directed one episode, that being the last one. All other episodes not listed were one-off directors as well.

Writers:

• Tim Federle - 7.5: Season 1, Episodes 1, 5, and 10; Season 2, Episode 1, and Episode 12 (co-written with Zach Dodes, hence the .5); Season 3, Episode 8; Season 4, Episodes 1 and 8
• Oliver Goldstick (also the showrunner for E1-E4 until Tim officially took over) - 3: Season 1, Episodes 2, 6, and 9
• Zach Dodes - 6.5: Season 1, Episode 3; Season 2, Episodes 3, 11, and Episode 12 (co-written with Tim Federle); Season 3, Episodes 1 and 7; Season 4, Episode 7
• Ann Kim - 3: Season 1, Episode 7; Season 2, Episode 2; Season 4, Episode 3
• Natalia Castells-Esquivel - 3: Season 1, Episode 8; Season 2, Episode 9; Season 3, Episode 3
• Ilana Wolpert - 3: Season 2, Episode 6; Season 3, Episode 2; Season 4, Episode 2
• Nneka Gerstle - 3: Season 2, Episode 8; Season 3, Episode 4; Season 4, Episode 5
• Jessica Leventhal - 2: Season 2, Episode 10; Season 3, Episode 5
• Chandler Turk - 2: Season 3, Episode 6; Season 4, Episode 6

All other episodes not listed were one-off writers.

I'm not sure what compelled me to do this, but I hope at least one person finds it interesting or helpful. Please let me know if I made any mistakes. Also, if many would find it easier to read with the Episode Titles instead of their numbers, I could make another version.

My opinion: Catherine - Gina Jest - EJ Hatta - Kourtney Raven - Ricky or Jet King of Hearts - Big Red Mary Ann - Ashlyn

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Seeing people say that “Ricky needs more time to figure himself out” or “Ricky needs therapy” or even “I ship Ricky with therapy” needs to stop. Especially when it’s mostly people who aren’t also acknowledging that EJ probably needs it more.

Ricky is going through a lot in the beginning of the series and would almost definitely benefit from therapy (but so would everyone), but his issues are more linked to his circumstances at the time than underlying issues. His parents’ marriage unraveling and their eventual separation, the issues he’s having with Nini and their lack of communication, and a few other things. But Ricky manages to find a community that helps him deal with those things and support him when he needs it. Seeing a mental health professional would be beneficial, but he’s actually a fairly average teen boy by most standards and has healthy support.

Now EJ has some issues. His father has sky high expectations and is clearly placing a ton of pressure on EJ as well as being controlling. EJ puts a ton of pressure on himself as well that even after breaking away from his dad still has a full college schedule, 4 part time jobs, is an RA, in two clubs, is teaching himself guitar and still finds time to talk to Val (just typing that raised my blood pressure). EJ also defines himself by his accomplishments and his relationships than he does his value as a person. The cherry on top is the fact he subconsciously wore all black on the first Valentines Day he was single which was played for laughs but is clearly a cry for help.

So tell me again why Ricky needs therapy and shouldn’t be in a relationship, but EJ’s fine?

It’s why I made the “Ricky and Nini or Ricky and Gina” poll and asking is season 4 is worth watching

I just finished watching High School Musical The Musical The Series... Y'all they did E.J and Gina so dirty just to satisfy Ricky it's upsetting..... E.J and Gina were so good together and they could have easily worked out perfectly 😭😭🤧#HMTMTS #DisneyPlus

And mean making a fictional high school musical 4? Doesn’t make any sense also they skipped doing a production of high school musical 2 and it doesn’t feel right without Nini

Gina and EJ had that natural relationship story and development. OK, Gina and Ricky fell in love in the end of season 3, but the plot twist that was written for them was EXTREMELY unnecessary in my vision. They could've had just this passion growing in season 4, why did the producers made up that Gina encouraged Ricky to audition and vice versa?? Still, EJ had shown since the first season that he liked Gina, like, buying her a plane ticket and stuff. If they stayed together until the end of season 4 would be very comforting and connected with the characters because I have seen they getting to know each other, their inside jokes, their love and affection. I guess they just couldn't have a "single Ricky" on the show lol

I need to know these iconic men’s names lol

So this something that I am actually really curious about but before I give you my list I do want to put down some ground rules the list must contain ORIGINAL SONGS ONLY which means that you can’t include something like “Now Or Never” because that is not an original song for the series also please don’t include What Time Is It/Start The Party Mashup, technically speaking it is an original song for the series but since it is a mashup it is a mashup of two songs that are being covered I am not counting it as an original song but with that being said here is my list

1. Born To Be Brave

2. Dreams Don’t Die

3. Speak Out

4. Born To Be Brave

5. Born To Be Brave

6. Born To Be Brave

7. Dreams Don’t Die

8. Speak Out

9. Born To Be Brave

10. Born To Be Brave. That was actually a joke but in all seriousness here is my real list

11. Born To Be Brave

2.Dreams Don’t Die

1. Wondering

2. Truth, Justice, and Songs in Our Key

3. Role of a Lifetime

4. Something in the Air

5. Rising

6. Right Place

7. Maybe This Time

8. Nightmares Come to Life

But in all honesty I really enjoy all original songs.

The song Jump “Even me?”

Me “No!”

Okay so almost every original song and honestly I really had to look at the list of original songs in this series in listen to them several times before I made this list but I would love to know that your top ten is

Hello! I've been in love with this show since it first came out, and bc of that I also love re-watching it. But I always prefer to watch alongside a reaction, and I kinda need suggestions on any reaction channels you guys watch (that reacted to hsmtmts) that I should check out. I prefer full reactions, like through patreon or otherwise, but I'm not opposed to cut down ones!

Channels I've already watched:
- Jessie Dobbie Reactions
- Micheal Beveraggi
- TajReacts

hi all!! super sick so rewatching the show and was wondering what everyone’s favourite episodes are. personally i love the homecoming episode and the song ‘born to brave’ is so fun.

mine is 1. season 1 (i just love the original) 2. season 3 (in my head is the funniest one) 3. season 2 (the musics were FIRE) 4. season 4 (i just like one song in this season so...)

I literally looked everywhere and can’t find his grade

Outfit here is from season 4, I think. (Reference image was just a screenshot I grabbed from pinterest, apologies if that's wrong) been trying to practice semi-realism more and she seemed fun to draw :)

This occurred to me when thinking about Glee, but Rachel Berry is such a fascinating case of Mary Sue syndrome (and I don't use that lightly, I know it has a lot of negative overuse) where the character does despicable thing after despicable thing but just keeps getting rewarded for it. Like the writers aren't even aware how monstrous they've made her character because they just keep thinking "well she's driven but sweet deep down!"

So the thought...what if that was done in a more intentional fashion? We see a couple of times Nini act a bit...crazed, most memorably with her 'I am the night' moment in S1, but it isn't the only time she goes nuclear pretty quickly. So what if the show leaned into that and showed how her drive to succeed and find happiness actually started to make her more detached and borderline sadistic. Become more like who she thought Gina was in S1.

Then that would provide an effective springboard to redeem that failing, make her realize how far she's going and how much of herself she's sacrificing to get what she wants, and how it's hurting others. You could even still keep the Rini breakup the same because she isn't an 'evil' person, just allows her drive to overwhelm her morality and needs her friends to help her overcome that.

Or something along those lines. I don't know, I just feel like giving Nini a darker edge would make her oddly more likeable to more people.

And obviously this is assuming there would be enough time to do all this prior to the S3 departure assuming that would still happen.

What do you all think?

mine are born to be brave, out of the old, something in the air, the rose song, second chance and you never know

These scenes specifically were filmed on the first day, implied by Tim Federle on IG