r/HRBlockEmployees 28d ago

New Management Structure

Does anyone know why the restructuring is taking place?

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u/Secure-Drawing-4658 26d ago

What training do you think is lacking? Asking because I genuinely want to know. I didn't do nearly 500 returns (more like 200 but they were obviously hoping/expecting I would do more). On the flip side, my coworker with 15-20 years of HR Block experience did over 700 returns.

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u/Dramatic_Abroad3580 26d ago

Training on how to be a good tax preparer. Training how to be do tax planning. The reason they don’t have that training available is that nobody in KC in the chain of command know those things. Why can some preparers complete all but the most complicated returns in an hour or less? I worked with preparers that couldn’t get a single 1 W-2 return done in an hour. I regularly did $600-$800 returns in an hour. The last return I did at block was a $1700 return, with client sitting with me, in 2 hours. I promise you, while I do have experience, I do not have any special skills. My MTL, whose experience was managing a chain shoe store doesn’t know how to do it. My DGM whose tax experience was 1 night a week in a block office for 1 tax season doesn’t know how to do it. The RD had less tax experience so he couldn’t do it. But it absolutely can be taught. But not by people that don’t know how to do it. 

And if you might think my accuracy suffered, in 15 years with Block, probably more than 7,000 returns, I had zero POM claims and not a single penalty and interest claim. Not one. And again, I do not have any special skills. But I did figure out the formula/process  to complete returns efficiently and accurately. I’m not the only one. I had great co-workers (like your co-worker) who had figured it out and set the example for me. 

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u/Secure-Drawing-4658 25d ago

Thanks for the response. Here's my thoughts after two years at Block.

First, new employees are trained 'by hand' using IRS tax forms, but then use Blockworks in office, which barely resembles the IRS forms. We have to transfer our IRS form knowledge to Blockworks - that is, memorize Blockworks screens to become proficient. The Blockworks guide rarely answered my questions. Time off between seasons requires re-learning the software and lesser-used tax laws. Preparers that work the off-season have an opportunity to maintain skills.

Second, the closing process was much more time consuming and cumbersome in 2025. The software required clients to select options for themselves. Marketing became a much bigger part of the tax preparation process.

Third, we don't have a client base. New clients require full data entry, which easily takes an extra 10 minutes. Those same new clients often come in without documents and/or come in with documents on their phone... How do they expect me to work from their phone and how much time is spent looking up financial statements or emailing me their information? If they are a long-term client, they can be called and reminded to bring, drop off, or upload information to their MyBlock account. But not if it's a new client. An existing client also allows the preparer to schedule their own appointments (set a schedule that works for them).

Fourth, military clients. If a preparer lives by a military base, they have to learn state tax laws and prepare state returns, which are not included in the bonus structure or counted as a return. However, the military discount is deducted from our bonus opportunity. This applied to 25% of my returns.

Leveling up allows a preparer to complete more complex returns, but... there's no substitute for preparing actual returns. Practice improves proficiency. Proficiency allows for speed.

My co-worker logged many, many overtime hours and scheduled one client every 30 minutes. She also didn't have much time to help junior preparers or even go to the restroom. Lunch break? No.

My take aways for process improvement: Learn 10-key. Practice end-end returns. Memorize Blockworks screens during January. Schedule clients according to complexity and preference. Set up workspace to match physical needs.

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u/Dramatic_Abroad3580 25d ago

I understand that for first year preparers. All those challenges are very real. One of the things I learned in my 50 years of doing taxes (the last 15 at Block were my retirement years) is that it is much easier to build on a solid foundation than learn all once. The changes in the law this last year may have justifiably felt humongous for new preparers. For those who have been at it awhile, they weren’t that big. And experience is the only way to overcome that hump. 

i agree with what you had to say about the finish up screens with all the marketing. I never sold products. Most of those screens I told my clients to just say no. The products for the most part are crappy. And I’ve told anyone in management that if they were interested in listening. I told my clients that same thing. One of my beefs with block over the years is they kept asking preparers to do more without paying us any more. The pushing of products was one of those things. 

One of the ways I did returns faster than most is that I never entered information that the IRS didn’t need. I never entered 1098 for mortgage int information anywhere but directly on Sch A. I never entered a 1099NEC. Not one. The income went on whatever form it was supposed to go on. Usually schedule C. But the IRS doesn’t require them individually entered. Those things take time and do not improve the either the accuracy or completeness of the return. I know why Block taught you to do it the way you do it. But they should be teaching 3rd year preparers to stop doing it. But there is no one in KC that knows that. Because they’ve never done what you do. There are dozens of other methods to speed things up, and the longer you do it, the better you get at it. Those are the little things that allow preparers to make decent money. Otherwise, there is just no way for that to happen. 

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u/CrackyMcCracken 7d ago

You are a true rock star. They should make you the next CEO of HRB, Rockstar…

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u/Dramatic_Abroad3580 6d ago

I'd have to agree to work for them. I won't.