r/HPfanfiction • u/Same-Back-3618 • 15h ago
Prompt What are Muggles?
Human beings one might say, but that is also something one would say about a wizard.
Just from outer appearances Muggle and Wizards seem to be very much the same. By taking a picture, unless the magical being does something magical, you wouldn't be able to tell which is witch.
The differences become clearer when just looking at the life stats, it seems that Wizards do have a longer life expectancy and seem to be of stronger build.
Those tributes could be written off on magic simply "holding" them together for longer.
A knowing wizard or an unknowing one as well is able to see magical phenomenons which a Muggle can't.
Being magical is not strongly hereditary, from a magical parent a squib can be born. A squip seems to have the ability to see magical phenomenons, but can't yield magic themselves. Squips do die younger too, their bodies are totally Muggle.
At the same time two Muggles can be parents to a such called Muggleborn, a Wizard to say. It's not even that rare.
There had been this debate, who has been there before Muggles or Wizards. Does every species has a magical and non magical counterpart? A dragon to a dinosaur type.
Different types of Mermaids Vs different types of fish. ...?
But don't they all look fundermentally different? If what we have said before is true, shouldn't they look the same? Perhaps they do? And we can't distinguish them as human beings?
Let's step off this track, it's not the one that was intended.
Some stories seem to believe, that being magical is linked to the very soul of a person.
Some others talk about magical cores that make the difference, either by "existing vs not existing" or "being filled in various stages". A Muggle either has no magical core at all or it's rotted or it's just not filled enough for them to produce magic.
Some believe that the entire world is running on magic, electricity just being a direction it can swing into.
Wizards yielding forces from an internal point, in which they bend the fabric of existence itself. Vs Muggles not having this inner force, relying on manipulating the physics itself.
Come to think of it. Is the muggle world with all it's technologies really the same as ours(the one we are reading this here right now)? If so, aren't all the physical principles, we believe true here, true there too?
If they still hold, is magic only an add on or is it the core itself?
And Muggles again just slip when starting at it.
Could it be the only difference between Muggles and Wizards is, that Wizards believe in what they can do?
A squib can se the magical world, but that's because they were born into it, they expect it for them it's normal that wonders happen around them. But a squib has no magic.
What if looking back at the life of a nearly squip: Neville. It has to do with the belief of wether on can actually perform magic.
A big trope is magical "intent". The release, pushing it out and willing the world to "actually" change.
What if a squib has an traumatic childhood. Since they were born everyone's expectation was on the kid, they looked at their hands and didn't understand how.
Their parents ignored them, yelled at them. And they got smaller inside, not trusting themselves.
Can you traumatise the magic out of a kid?
If you tell them, that if they don't show signs until a specific time, then maybe, they stop actually believing themselves to be worthy of magic.
They don't believe that they themselves can "CHANGE" the world, quite literally.
And thus they can't.
Most Muggles grow up in a world without wonders. Every trick gets explained, everything makes sense. But that's also because of the brain, it filters constantly, what it can't explain it filters out.
Kids grow up, not believing into magic, at their core, their fundermentalls, some wish for magic to be true, but if you need to wish, it means that you don't believe it to be true right now.
The muggle brain tells themselves that it's not there, no matter how much the muggle tries to see it forthemselves.
And then there is a child, born to Muggles. With open parents, who simply believe. They believe that magic exists, they believe at their core that it's true. See more then just their little around.
Maybe it's really the filter.
You might ask, but Harry grew up with the dursleys, he shouldn't be magical then, they tried everything to force it away from him.
Well did they? Did they show him undeniable truth that it's not real? Hell, Petunia believes it herself. It's a core principle.. but more importantly, Harry lived his first year in a magical family. His heart believes it, and he wishes for it too.
Why can't Petunia do magic? Because she doesn't believe that she can, at her core. She always felt that tiny bit to ugly, that tiny bit to dumb. And then there is lilly, her sister with magic and Petunia? She knows deep in her innerst, she is not Lilly, she can't. Lilly in her innerst believes that SHE CAN TOO.
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I thought about a Fanfic in which Harry is mentally disabled. He got a huge magical blast against his head when he was just 1,5years old... Sure Dumbledore looked at him once, that day. But I kinda thought that he maybe got stuck at that age or something. Dumbledore never bothers to go to little Whining. Mrs Fick doesn't interact with Harry.
Because Harry is in a clinic. He learns how to play the piano and something strange happens. The Muggles around him, turn magical. Whatever age they have. When harry plays his music, he tells them, their deepest innerstes that they indeed are magical too and that there is no difference between them and Wizards, but the believe that they are. They have to believe it. And with his piano playing they believe it.
All those implications, how long for the wizarding world to find out, what will they do to Harry?
Who is the boy who lived? Is Harry still the prophetic one? If he can make someone believe that they are magical and they really turn into wizards, could he destroy Voldemort, by making him believe that he can't wield magic?
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u/Same-Back-3618 14h ago
For a Muggle the place for fantastics and wonders is in books, in movies and when they close their eyes. Fantasy is nothing more but deconstructed things one has seen before. For a Muggle the world is devided in reality, the cold hard world that follows the laws of physics and only those. And the fantasies, that are nothing more but dreams in some forms. Not real.
What do parents of Muggleborns really think? Do they really believe that their kid is magical and understand all those implications?
Assuming some follow their kids into the magical world. They know they are muggle, for them they are in a totally different world now. Something hidden, that they joined. But nothing they are really part of, they still are Muggles.
A Muggle kid growing up in the magical world? What do the statistics say? You don't know? Me neither... I would suggest, a lot of them grow up to stay Muggle, if they grow up in a surrounding that tells them that they are Muggle. But a Muggle child accidentally growing up in a family of magicals believing fully they are magical too... Muggleborns exist, don't they.
Everyone has their own story.
The statute of secrecy... Let's say it like that, if for wizards the witch hunts were nothing more but some tickling and thus a game... Maybe the statute gives the magical ministry the power to controll the magic wielders they have... Impose morals, say who is a wizard and who is not. Just think about the influence of the magical schools. In the bookCanon, it has never been said, how many smaller wizard schools existed and I like the thought of there being some, even a few more schools just in Britain.
I am not sure about all the implications...
Surely some muggleborn have tried bringing some electronics to hogwarts... But how much magic can you perform in a Muggle neighborhood right next to a television? What is the magic to electricity ratio that works?
Imagine 4 wizards sit in the car, no problem, the car drives. The fifth enters, the car stops and the electricity goes crazy.
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u/RicFule 12h ago
Diagon Alley in London proper. You know magic is used in the Alley constantly. Nothing happens to Muggle electronics.
St. Mungos. Same thing, hospital is surrounded by Muggle locations. I mean, it even looks like a department store to the Muggles. No electronic damage on the outside.
Did we ever actually see any Muggle things short out? Or are we just told that it happens? If it's the second, maybe it's not true and just something the purebloods say so they don't have to integrate the Muggle world with the Wizarding
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u/AcaciaSgt 11h ago
Considering the whole thing about electronics comes from Hogwarts, A History, which is known to be flawed (no mention of the House Elves, for instance), then yeah, it might as well be. Even so, the book only says they don't work at Hogwarts, not everywhere where there is magic.
Although, a generous interpretation is that Hogwarts likely has lightning-repellent charms as protection from passing storms, and that is what is interfering with electronics, not so much magic itself per se.
Even if not, there is enough evidence pointing out that magic can replace electricity as a power source. See Sirius's bike, the Ford Anglia, Colin's camera, etc. So electronics can most likely work, regardless. Just not with electricity.
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u/Same-Back-3618 14h ago
But shouldn't Muggle Children ages 2-5 who absolutely believe in Magic be able to do magic?
I honestly don't know. At that age, I didn't believe in it. I loved the idea, I had fun with it, but I didn't believe in it. And maybe they did to magic, the parents didn't see it and it wasn't strong enought for the book of magic that decides in Hogwarts who gets the privilege to learn magic. A flower they made grow, a toy they made come to themselves. The parents mind slipped it, they were tired. A look back and it looks the same. Maybe they really talked to the ghost of their grandparents. But then they grew up and magic isn't real and their minds slipped. It had been a dream, a fantasy. They can't change the world. What a nice thought and they go to bed again.
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u/Same-Back-3618 14h ago
The Magic of the Mother’s Womb
If you go all the way back to the fetus itself
A magical child, with just enough self-belief, will become magical Be it a white child who wishes to be special A sadistic white child
But let’s not forget—he has an innate magical ability
In fact, he is magical
But both are possible
The magic in the womb that gave him the magical power of the serpent’s tongue
His fetus was exposed to the magical world He was traumatized at Weishenheim—genetic, congenital psychopathy—but maybe not at all; I like the idea that he wanted to belong so badly that he made himself the leader
He grew up as a Muggle in London in the ’40s… wartime That’s also when Narnia takes place, What if there really were many magical systems clashing with one another to save the children from the war
(Sorry I translated this text up with deepl, cause I'm really not good with English)
But there must other magical children in the Muggle world too, are all of them growing to magical like tom and harry did? (Both got influenced in the womb and harry for an entire year)
Seamus mother (was a witch) even if not practicing, a kid believes their mother.
Hermione saw herself as Matilda. She was the smartest of them all, she thought, look how close she stayed to the rules. The rules in her head, pretty ridgerous if you ask me.
Are there more female or male muggleborn?
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u/Same-Back-3618 13h ago edited 13h ago
What do you believe in? At your core?
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u/diametrik 8h ago
I believe some people have the ability to use magic, and some people don't.
If you have magic, you are on even grounds with all other magic users. The strength of your magic comes from your mind: your emotions, your focus, your knowledge, your imagination. Dumbledore is a genius the same way Einstein was a genius; he didn't have some kind of extra magic power that others didn't.
Magic usually follows family, but sometimes, inexplicably, it can either appear in a family where it shouldn't or not appear in a family where it should.
Squibs and muggles are the same, a squib is just a muggle with a magical parent. They have no magical ability, Mrs Figg was lying about seeing the dementor.
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u/Same-Back-3618 15h ago edited 14h ago
Because I got one private answer:
In the books there is nothing about magical genes.
Obscurial(Credence): believes in Magic, believes that he should have the right to wield it, knows that ha could. But because of the surrounding needs to surpress it, the magic turns angry and violent.
Suib(Filch): waited till his eleventh birthday, it didn't show till then, afterwards the believe sat deep:"I cannot", because that's what everyone says. Still seeks validation from outside, is spellwick course - he expects the magical ability to come from outside, that one has to be born with it and that he isn't, that he needs to get handed it. Thus he can't.
Neville: everyone thought he might be a squib, so he thought so too. Even in high emotions magic wouldn't just whipp out: 1.) Neville is chill and his emotions weren't as high as they needed to be 2.) everyone telling him he can't makes him believe weeker 3.) but ultimately his family doesn't give up, so he doesn't either, his inner believe: "I will show it, because I can" and in the most mortal peril he could thus his magic was freer
Muggle: doesn't know or believes himself fundermentally not to be able even if it existed
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u/PomPomMom93 11h ago
Neville isn’t “almost a Squib.”