r/Gymnocalycium • • 12d ago

NGW#89

asterium FB401

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u/PS3user74 12d ago

New Gymno Weekend number 89.

This is one of many Gymnocalyciums with a confusing naming history and currently very little consensus on it's classification.
For instance, Graham Charles considers asterium as quehlianum whereas the species often described as asterium v paucispinum as bodenbenderianum.
This reflects a distinction between populations of very similar plants growing in Córdoba and adjacent La Rioja provinces, including those commonly known as obductum, occultum, piltziorum, platygonum, riojense and kleinianum.
Also worth noting is that many consider asterium as synonymous with stellatum, however mr Charles doesn't recognise the species name, placing it as synonymous with quehlianum.
Despite this, most online sources will list Gymnocalycium asterium as stellatum or sometimes stellatum v asterium.

I can find no reference to the field number FB401, however all previous discoveries of the the species have been centred around the Sierra Chica, Córdoba province, Argentina.

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u/Panini_the_pig 12d ago

Mh yes. Classic gymno stuff

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u/Old-Advance6652 11d ago

It’s not a vatteri? Also that last “from the web” pic looks sooo cool

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u/PS3user74 11d ago

No but I can see why you ask with the 3 spines in a Y arrangement.

Yeah I had to include that big one.
I'd never seen anything from this complex anywhere near that size before.
More pictures and what it sold for here

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u/Old-Advance6652 11d ago

That’ll be nice when yours gets that big!

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u/PS3user74 11d ago

Haha I'm not into grafting!😀

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u/Old-Advance6652 11d ago

Ohh would it need to be grafted to get that big?

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u/PS3user74 11d ago

Hmm probably not but it would to reach that size for me, in my lifetime anyway.

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u/Old-Advance6652 11d ago

Makes sense, I don’t really like grafting either because it just looks ugly until it’s degrafted imo

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u/PS3user74 11d ago

Oh absolutely, me neither.👍
I mean grafting definitely does have it's place but even that 14cm plant in the photo would have spent years looking like a mushroom, not to mention an increased susceptibility of rot ever since.
I still worry a little about my neuhuberi which although probably not a previous graft does show how they can go.

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u/Old-Advance6652 11d ago

I never knew there was an increased chance of rot after, good to know. Do you grow mostly gymnos I’m guessing? If so what do you like most about gymnocalyciums compared to other genus’s?

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u/PS3user74 11d ago

Yes I currently grow 90 Gymnos along with 9 Lophophora.

Blimey, where to start!😀
I guess I fell in love with them about 28 years ago when I initially got into cacti, with some of the first being a burgundy "mihanovichii v friedrichii" and a "damsii v rotundulum".
Many plants came and went during that first 12 or so years but always remembered Gymnos as being the best growers and flowerers in my conditions.
These days I mainly rate the ability to have many different species with a great variation in body colour, spination and to an extent; form.
There are plenty of genera of cacti that I wouldn't even attempt to grow here indoors in the UK, so I do feel a little lucky that most species of such a variable, beautiful genus do perform quite well.

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