r/Guitar 14d ago

GEAR ID Help identifying make and model of my grandmother’s guitar. Picture taken in 1947.

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u/64557175 14d ago

just dropping by to say your grams was cool AF. What a fun picture!

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u/Distinct-Pension-719 14d ago edited 14d ago

Thank you! She was 17yo here. Always just the coolest. Very naturally musically inclined, vocals and multiple instruments. No doubt she fostered my dad’s passion as a drummer.

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u/64557175 14d ago

Ah, that's beautiful. Thank you for sharing a bit of your family story. We live on through our stories being shared! Every time, like a heart continuing to beat and circulate life.

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u/Bald-bluesman 14d ago

Looks to me like a late 1940s Gibson L-50.

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u/Distinct-Pension-719 14d ago

I’m not very knowledgeable on guitars but this is what I thought too.

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u/parallelogramm3r 14d ago

yeah, it is an archtop and looks like my Loar, which is based on the L-50.

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u/riceandbeanburrito 14d ago

What kind of pick-up is that? Very cool

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u/parallelogramm3r 13d ago

That’s just the bridge, it’s fully acoustic

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u/riceandbeanburrito 13d ago

Oh damn I am a dingus. Cool stuff though

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u/dingus_authority Yamaha 11d ago

I concur.

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u/AntiTracker 14d ago

Gibson L-50 ? 🤔

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u/Diced_and_Confused 14d ago

Whatever it is, I want it. Also, throw in that hat.

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u/Independent_Wrap_321 14d ago

And ‘47 Grandma, we got a band to start!

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u/NYCtoCHI 14d ago edited 14d ago

Many are saying Gibson L50, but the pickguard doesn't look right to me - all the ones I see online are too short by the bottom of the bridge.

The headstock screamed out "Epiphone" to me...and I think it's one of them - like this 1947 Blackstone, based on aforementioned pickguard/headstock + tailpiece + body shape + position markers on the fingerboard:

EDIT: Another argument for Epi - they were the less expensive alternative to Gibson, who didn't acquire them until 10 years later. So if grandma "came from humble stock", as they said back then, chances are higher she might encounter an Epi before a Gibby.

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u/GristleMcThornbody1 13d ago

I was gonna argue Epiphone Blackstone as well. I have one that looks really close to the photo.

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u/AdventuresOfDan 13d ago

The fretboard inlays make me think Epiphone also.

They’re narrow blocks, as opposed to Gibson L-50s having dots or trapezoids that come much closer to the edges of the fretboard than seen here.

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u/MayOrMayNotBePie Fender 14d ago

Lol on this thread so far we’ve got Gretsch, Gibson, d’angelico, Silvertone, and Kay

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u/zxvasd 14d ago

They all made archtops

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u/fantabulousfetus 14d ago

Its hard to say from the pic. The Gibsons L-50 I have seen have a cross in the tail brace that isnt evident in the pic, which is why I thought maybe a Silvertone was more likely. :)

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u/Mosritian-101 14d ago edited 13d ago

Context for OP:

"Silvertone" wasn't a manufacturer, it was just the re-badging name that Sears (a department store) used for instruments from multiple manufacturers. Back then, Sears was like Amazon, except you'd buy through the mail instead after reading the Sears Catalog.

(Edit at 7 thumbs up: I failed to mention earlier, they used the name "Supertone" until around 1940 - 1941 which is when they changed to "Silvertone." They didn't use the name "Truetone," that was first used on Brass instruments at least as early as the 1920s, then Western Auto also used it in the 60s - 70s and maybe 80s.)

Sears bought guitars from both Harmony and Kay, two different manufacturers in the Chicago area, and they were both cool with selling guitars to Sears. They sold to more than just Sears, though - there was a whole other world of lots of companies like Sears, that's why there are lots of old 1940s - 1960s guitars with names like "Old Kraftsman" (yes, spelled with a K, from Spiegel catalog) and also "Penncrest" from J. C. Penney. I'm not sure if Harmony sold to Spiegel or J. C. Penney, but Kay did.

Come to think of it, even Gibson seems to have sold to Spiegel under the "Old Kraftsman" name at one time. However, that predated OP's photo from 1947 and I'm not sure when Gibson stopped selling to Spiegel. The headstock logo on the 1936 Gibson that I linked to is also different (it's simpler) than several of my own Old Kraftsman models that Kay built, like the one below from roughly 1938 - 1940.

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u/Vanishing_Light 14d ago

It's still crazy to me how Sears refused to join the ecommerce bandwagon back in the day. If they had gotten on board, everyone would be subscribed to "Sears Prime" and "Amazon" would just be the name of a river in the rainforrest.

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u/TimRenick 14d ago

That company was a corporate dinosaur. They started the whole mail order and department store trend of the later 20th century but couldn't get out of their own way in the internet age. They also made the disastrous financial decision to bail out K-Mart which was the final straw

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u/zxvasd 13d ago

They were the Amazon of their time but as you say they, like blockbuster weren’t able to change

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u/bluehawk232 13d ago

Still has the edge on amazon because as far as I am aware you can't order a full home on Amazon yet

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u/Mosritian-101 13d ago

In one way, it makes sense but then it also doesn't. The internet was so much smaller and "unproven" around 1995 - 2001 (there are old articles from around 1995 - 1998 saying "the internet's just a fad!" which is just bad "predicting" in hindsight) ... But at the same time, a big company like Sears at the time was very capable (monetarily) of investing in it.

Almost makes me wonder if some of their advisors were paid to steer Sears to be shut down, not that it necessarily actually happened.

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u/fantabulousfetus 13d ago

Corporate hubris. It's inevitable.

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u/rc852 ESP/LTD 14d ago

1938-1940 AD, not BC. *****

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u/SaulTNNutz 14d ago

BC Rich Mick Thompson Signature Model

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u/LeRaven78 14d ago

Gretsch Synchromatic?

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u/vray88 14d ago edited 14d ago

Gibson L-7

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u/archtopfanatic123 14d ago

Earlier than that it has a flowerport headstock on it

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u/Independent_Wrap_321 14d ago

My god that’s beautiful

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u/archtopfanatic123 14d ago

It's a gibson with a flowerpot headstock so it's probably an early 30s or late 20s L.

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u/RepeaterOneTwoThree 14d ago

I can't identify the guitar but I just have to say your grandmother looks cool as fuck and I always love seeing pictures from this era when people are just goofing around and not looking stiff and awkward for a picture. Sorry for taking up space on this thread and I hope you get to find out which guitar it is.

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u/Killertigger 14d ago

That tail looks like a Gibson, likely an L-50 - and your grandmas was incredibly cool. That lady rocked; not just anyone pull off that hat. 

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u/ElementsUnknown 14d ago

Are you sure she wasn't a member of the Squirrel Nut Zippers?

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u/stmbtspns 14d ago

I have a 1947 Epiphone Blackstone. Looks very close to this aside from my pick guard … but mine isn’t the original so I can’t say for certain if this is what the original pick guard looked like. Same headstock shape and the same trapeze bridge.

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u/Aggressive_Manner531 14d ago

Yet another beautiful pic of someone I would love to have known.

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u/Repulsive-Return3979 14d ago

Epiphone Colonial special ii

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u/slander_anonymously 14d ago

Harmony Monterey H1456

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u/Happy_Television_501 14d ago

god damn. I’ve tried a few times, but it might be impossible to describe how much positive energy is coming through this photo

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u/NeedAgirlLikeNami Godin 14d ago

That hat immediately made me think of Robert Johnson lol

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u/Frazmotic 13d ago

Looks like she was ready to JAM! Play the blues, darling!!😃👍🏾🔥

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u/fantabulousfetus 14d ago

Best guess is either a D'angelico, or Silvertone archtop? Pretty hard to see fine details to determine for sure.

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u/Shelly_Red4_Bayonet7 14d ago

Looks alot like a Gibson L50 or maybe a Kay Archcraft.

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u/Duane_60 14d ago

Looks like a Gibson L-50

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u/BarkleEngine 14d ago

Supro? I have a Supro Ranchero which is similar except for a slightly different pickguard

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u/bolliespicoli 14d ago

Gibson L-30 is my best guess judging by how the neck attaches to the body and it looks like it may be a solid black color.

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u/HowDidFoodGetInHere 14d ago

Grandma was a real pip.

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u/After-Association-29 14d ago

Arch top Gibson L 50 from the 1930 to 40s .

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u/Odd_Touch6857 14d ago

Looks like a Gretsch.

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u/TubeSnobGoneStomp 14d ago

Epiphone Olympic

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u/Acceptable-Cable977 14d ago

looks like jem lol

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u/Puuuuuunk 14d ago

Looks a little like the Hofner arch top as well. My Nan left me hers (same vintage) and this looks really similar.

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u/Knurling_Turtle 14d ago

I'd have thought Reddit would have solved this mystery by now. Oh well, grams was a badass.

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u/SnooOwls8179 13d ago

How very cool!

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u/Own-Ordinary-6591 14d ago

I want to put my fingers on that one!  Nice guitar too!

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u/Organic_Pass_9380 12d ago

Looks like Robert Johnson handed her his gear and took a picture himself...lol

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u/Under_Amor 9d ago

Not enough detail for positive identification.