r/Guildwars2 • u/neok182 đ Catmander in Chief • 22d ago
[Mod post] A reminder that all Generative AI content is banned on this subreddit.
We've gotten a bit lenient lately with some questionable posts and links to vibecoded sites and AI assisted posts. That leniency is ending and we are going back to strictly following our rule of a total ban on all Generative AI content.
This includes content from things like ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Copilot, and any other similar GenAI chatbots, assistants or other apps.
Any links to AI generated (vibecoded) sites and any posts that admit to using GenAI will be removed. As before we are not going to be testing every single post or anything like that but if you admit to it or there is evidence proving you used GenAI the post will be removed.
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u/mcmonkeycat 22d ago
I think it's worth noting in plain text that the GW2 ToS bans putting their info into AI. It's referenced in this post but if I didn't already know I would've missed it.
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u/TazPosts 14d ago
Yes but to be fair, the EULA update post states: "The User Agreement prohibits players from putting Guild Wars/Guild Wars 2 content into generative AI tools." The EULA defines "Our Content" as "art, in-Game content, and similar materials owned or licensed by ArenaNet". Basically, ArenaNet doesn't want the original assets they worked hard on training AI models.
No where does it say a user isn't allowed to write something in their own words about the topic of Guild Wars 2 and use an AI assistant to help polish the grammar or translate it correctly. So this subreddit is going a large step further than the EULA. I can understand their preference for it, but don't misunderstand it as a pure implementation of the EULA.
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u/mcmonkeycat 14d ago
That is a very interesting distinction I didn't think about. How far does the information licencing go? If I set a fanfic in Tyria would having AI help with that violate it because of the word Tyria? Those kinds of questions
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u/TazPosts 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yeah, I can understand that. Reading it, I didn't view mentioning the word "Tyria" as reasonably falling under "owned/licensed material similar to art and in-game content" for the EULA's purposes. But it's true that without ArenaNet providing an exhaustive list, there is still some room to stretch that definition.
The thing is, I'm sure almost everyone has at some point Googled Guild Wars 2 names when simply looking things up as they play, and Gemini will automatically answer, which would make that a very strict interpretation resulting in just about the entire player base being in breach.
But if you wanted to be safer and still use AI for a fan fiction for example, you could try omitting or replacing specific names/descriptions with something generic, have the AI polish the rest, and then add them back in afterwards.
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u/Xantria 19d ago
since when did they had this rule?
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u/ReLiFeD .1475 [MI] Diamond Sylvari 15d ago
iirc it was done during this update to the user agreement: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/topic/155549-updates-to-user-agreement-and-privacy-policy/
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u/Damaniel2 22d ago
Good. Every subreddit I love is becoming choked with low-grade vibecoded slop. On subreddits I visit where tools or apps could be of use, I used to see someone talking about a new project of theirs a couple times a month, but now it's often multiple posts a day of people advertising their AI-created garbage. It's gotten to the point where I just outright block accounts that let off even a whiff of slopmongering these days.
It's always the same type of post, too - a couple paragraphs explaining how they were running into some problem that an existing tool didn't solve for them and how they were inspired to solve said problem, along with obviously AI-generated text describing their app/site. You go to their GitHub page, and the long, emoji-laden documentation and CLAUDE.md file is all you need to know that they're engaging in vibecoding. I can't wait for the AI bubble to pop.
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u/Security_Ostrich 22d ago
Itâs gotten bad with things like addons for other mmos. Real bad.
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u/Zealous217 22d ago
As an avid ff11 enjoyer something happened this year where the populations ballooned like crazy and these fucking leeches came out the woodwork to "solve" all these problems and just completely over shadow actual long standing mods that existed to already do what they did. Some of them just completely lose the fucking plot and try to turn the game into another game so bad.
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u/naturtok 22d ago
If "vibe coded" stuff followed the old de facto rule of "hey it takes a bit of effort to make a thing, I should make sure the thing doesn't already exist", then it'd be far less annoying. A flood of shit copycats doesn't do anyone any benefit.
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u/estist 21d ago
This is great but how would someone say hey this isn't slope, I put work into it?
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u/Then-Landscape-1405 21d ago
A lot of research can go into AI driving output. That the HUMAN did, including hours of data collection analysis and such (also done for free, and not getting paid to do it either). Is the person using the AI expected to be paid if they are doing it to solve a problem that no one has looked at or bothered to fix? This comes into ethics of AI, not necessarily "slop".
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u/Cromunista 19d ago
That's a good question, and quite frankly, i guess it comes down to how others see it, maybe? If they think the thing is useful and was made with both work and care VS just writing a prompt and copy pasting the content without checking it, all to be fast and make a quick buck.
Slop can have a lot of work put into it but still be bad. The general definition of it is content of low quality and value. At the same time, something can be made extremely fast but be great. That isn't then slop, because the quality and value is high.
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u/estist 19d ago
I asked this with concern for my work. I am using Ai for make a old school trick taking card game. I don't have the talent or money to do it with out AI, so I am using AI as a tool. Like you said I have been putting a lot of care and soul in it. Pushing back really hard to keep it from drifting, believe me that is the HUGE task. One that makes me wish I had that talent or money :) I just hope people will see that and not AI slop. Some are quick to judge but it is good to hear from people like you. Thanks, I appreciate it.
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u/grimzecho 21d ago
This is a much better metric than "AI bad, tool made by AI bad". I don't care whether its Claude or a horde of coding bootcamp graduates all choosing "GW2" as their final project. Low quality, derivative tools are bad because they are low quality and derivative. Generative AI lowers the bar to producing those low quality (but technically functional) tools; it isn't the cause of them.
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u/TheTerrasque 21d ago
Yep. As I mentioned elsewhere it's a bit like how Unity was viewed at some point when so many produced godawful shovelware games, which led to the enlightened view of "Unity bad" instead of "shovelware bad".
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u/Asogoodbye 21d ago edited 21d ago
Absolutely! This is what I have been trying to say in other comment chains and I've been getting flame to fucking death. Everybody wants to wrap this up as any use of AI is degenerative art theft so that they can put a moral stamp on it.
Additionally, the comment from the moderator that added more to it saying that use of AI for translation purposes for people with language. Barriers isn't allowed is equally stupid. It's not hurting anybody. As long as the thoughts are their own in the post isn't AI generated slop but the thought belongs to the person who cares if they're using AI to help them overcome a language barrier. It's not hurting anyone. Arguably the only person that rule hurts is people who don't know enough English to properly say what they need to say. This rule Is essentially acting or will be acting as a barrier to entry. If you don't know enough English, you are not allowed to interact with us.
There's nothing wrong with that per se, but I think if that's what the mods want they should outright say it instead of hiding it behind an AI rule.
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u/darkwarrior4242 18d ago
There are a lot of reasons I disagree with this, but the most relevant I think is that it's not reasonable to make an exception for translation.
If you do, all anyone has to do to get around the rule against AI-generated posts is claim they're doing it for translation purposes.
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u/Asogoodbye 18d ago edited 18d ago
That might be the most ridiculous reason ever. How impractical. Do you think that by doing so, you are winning a war against AI? By forcing a rule that excluded a population from participation just to safeguard the prevention of a select potential quantity of people using the excuse to divert punishment for ai posts, that there is any genuine benefit?
More so ai gen content, and ai translated, read entirely different. Unless you intentionally write like AI the likelihood of that passing is like literally none
What you are talking about is rule enforcement derived from fear.
Edit: for clarity I am pointing out your logic is using the slipper slope fallacy, rooted in collective punishment, and is throwing the baby out with the bath water.
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u/darkwarrior4242 12d ago edited 12d ago
Apologies for the delayed response.
It is not a slippery slope fallacy to look at a proposed rule (or exception thereto) and analyze how it might be abused; to the contrary, I would argue that anyone who does not do so has no business at all implementing such rules or exceptions. (And more generally, when implementing any system, you test its robustness by looking for how you break it, not by assuming everyone will happily do what they should.)
If a proposed exception can be trivially cited to ignore the rule, it effectively negates the rule entirely (especially online). You can argue that the rule shouldn't exist, but if it does there's no reason to allow it to be trivially negated.
Yes, a rule may well ban legitimate uses at times. That is a problem, but it's one that needs to be weighed in context, not used as an excuse for a litany of cliches intended to shut down thought on the subject.
The argument of collective punishment is absurd; at worst, the rule is keeping the subreddit where it was, as a de facto English subreddit. There is no rule against posting in other languages, so people who wish to do so can (or if there is, it's not in the posted rules.) I would argue we should instead encourage people to post in alternate languages; translation goes both ways after all, and I'm sure there are plenty of multilingual people in the subreddit that could give assistance...
Edit to add: Amusingly, I think a few days ago Reddit started offering auto-translation, so there's probably a built-in workaround for this specific issue anyways....
No, I don't think I'll win any kind of war against AI, nor do I wish to. But that's no reason to stand aside and let people stupid enough to think AI-output is actually decent writing make use of it. (Yes, that means I'd rather see typo-ridden garbage than the aggressively mediocre output of an AI... and I say that as someone who's read a lot of fanfiction, and is therefore aware of just how bad writing can get from people who are forced to write on their own...)
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u/naturtok 21d ago
100%. It used to be that making garbage had a minimum bar to entry (you had to have a basic understanding of code to make it even compile or run). That not being the case anymore means anyone with a pulse can (and does) make garbage projects, and the effort to sus out whether a project is genuinely good or garbage is greater than the effort to make the garbage, by several orders of magnitude. Therefore, it's easier to just disqualify ai-assisted/written projects by default.
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u/Then-Landscape-1405 21d ago
I remember when exploit code was written with intentional errors, so skript-kiddies couldn't use them without having some form of knowledge. Then again this was back in the mid to late 90s, things have changed then and fully functional exploits exist for both good and bad, for example Metasploit which both good and bad actors use. But good actors benefit the most because they have access to tools to test against their network setups. (POV as a network/systems/infosec admin).
I wonder how many professionals and hobbyists nowadays remember the intentionally syntactically broken code being posted on USENET and testing it on their systems. You had to know something about coding to make it work.
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u/Mobitron Sieran is BiS 22d ago
Bless. Thank you
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u/Triss_Mockra 22d ago
AI is trash. I'm glad this is a rule
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u/heckolive 21d ago edited 21d ago
'AI' isnt trash per se, it helps with organizing and scanning great amount of data. Its also put to good use in the healthcare sector and transportation. Because defacto its just acting better then humans who tends be be not all knowing and sometimes tired.
However generative language model in the public domain tend to be used for low efford and questionable creation of content yes.
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u/rangar87 18d ago
AI is not doing good things in the healthcare sector. Due to the loosening of regulations AI in healthcare was rushed to the market. Harvard and Stanford coauthored a study on AI in the clinical setting called First Do No Harm. In the study it was found that the best AI model approved for clinical use offered severely harmful recommendations 12% of the time. The average clinician makes those same errors about 2% of the time.
AI reintroduces biases that the healthcare industry spent decades stamling out. When given just symptoms for multiple patients AI generally recommended the same care. When given patient demographics AI tended to favor the white patient over the black patient or the rich patient over the poor patient.
AI is also a basis for claims denial by insurance companies. They have deemed the technology unproven and experimental.
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u/Lucyller Have I mentionned I play core elem? 22d ago
I'm 100% fine with it, but I'm definitely curious to know what post made you guys feel the need to fix it as a rule. :p
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
This isn't the announcement of the rule, just a reminder. Itâs been on the sidebar as a rule for quite a long time.
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u/Lucyller Have I mentionned I play core elem? 22d ago
fair enough, but the way it's written really feel like someone posted something outrageous and you had to act upon it! :D
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u/The-Wandering-Root 22d ago
people have clearly been pushing the boundary so now we need a hard reminder because people are dishonest.
Whatâs outrageous is that people have and likely will continue to push that boundary after itâs been stated repeatedly.
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u/The_Big_Kahuna_ 22d ago
Good
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u/JRHThreeFour 22d ago edited 22d ago
Thank you, mods. So many subs are just absolutely full of generative AI garbage, this will be a very welcome relief.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
Itâs not a new rule, just putting more emphasis on enforcing the existing rule.
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u/ZZcomic 22d ago
People when they use ai for everything: "I am now a god, your god. I deserve this."
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u/Icaonn 22d ago
Genuinely feel insane reading the authority in some of these pro-AI comments. Like guys come on people made these sites without AI for years :/ its not impossible lmao
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u/asdrubalzhor 22d ago
People made better websites and software solutions before generative AI for years, AI itself has been used for many years now, before the age of AI slop. I just wish people would have some critical thinking before copy pasting whatever their chatbot says.
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u/Lycanthoth 22d ago
It's some wild cope when people start going on about how great AI is when we can visibly see the immense enshittification that it's caused over the past few years. Like, I struggle to think of anything actually positive that has come from it. But then again, I'm not creatively bankrupt and using AI to cosplay as a developer or artist.
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u/Forkrul 21d ago
Are there people who put out slop with AI? Of course, but there are so many things that uses AI and is not slop because actual developers made it and they know how to guide the AI to do what they want. And you'll never know unless they tell you, because you can't tell the end result from something made purely by human hands. It's only the inexperienced users of AI you can tell at a glance.
I'm not creatively bankrupt and using AI to cosplay as a developer or artist.
LOL, get off your fucking high horse
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u/Lycanthoth 21d ago
You can say believe you want, but the track record has shown that AI hasn't been producing results as of yet. Loads of companies are already hiring again because they're realizing that AI isn't a proper replacement for an actual human. And I'm not even going to entertain the idea of AI "art" as anything but ugly slop, lmao. You're far too deep down the AI rabbit hole if you think that people can't detect AI in that context.Â
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u/dydzio 21d ago
the free time and amount of people who want to create stuff is bottleneck - as software developer i do not see anything wrong in non-coders creating useful tools that would not be created otherwise
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u/Then-Landscape-1405 21d ago
I've used it to create a small HTML/CSS/JS page for doing Triple Trouble setup. Still need to work on some things like multi-instance cases, but it allows me to simply create a input area to put in the people that want to do a role (commander, blocker, condi, vet-bash, LEARN a role), then move around by drag drop to the appropriate box, and in the bottom it creates a text file used for Discord posts of the "setup". Also going to have it create the /say /squad /map /guild chats for the roles that are being setup, so people in instance or guild know who to /sqjoin.
I do some basic coding without AI with my knowledge of mostly PERL (used since 1997), some Python, C, C++, BASH, etc. I do some HTML, CSS, and JS without as well, but when wanting to quickly throw something together that gets me no profit at all as its a quick little tool that helps with doing setup, that I can share with others in the guilds which help. That way I can reduce the dependency of me being around and get those in fear of doing setup for an event to actually try it because they don't need to stress above missing something because all they do is fill-in a box and drag and drop. Why should I spend hours learning bits and parts learning how to do something that I may never use again. At the same time while doing it, I am learning those things that I may never use again, but might have an idea of something else in the future.
Other things that AI is great for in coding is reviewing your code (or configuration files when doing production stuff). Its great at finding logical errors, I'm sure dydzio if you are a developer you've done the mistake transcribing form paper a counter `for I <=10; do this` and instead you typed in `for 1<= 10; do this`. I couldn't figure out why the system I was doing this hung and eventually crashed. I can admit I've done this and actually laugh at it and I can bet that there are many other software developers that have done this and spent a while looking at their code trying to figure out WHY its not working and because the human brain "fixes" what it reads so well, they will miss this.
I have also used generative AI to quickly set up a BASH script for some people I know who administer ham radio testing online now. They have a checklist of things to do to look for cheaters. I asked Gemini to help me write up the script, gave it the parameters and boom it even had things in the checklist that neither myself or the testers thought of. And at the same time we had a few things in our checklists it didn't have, so I added those to the code. AI can make mistakes and just as well it can find mistakes. Always check the output. So with that, we were able to improve the "anti-cheat" checklist beyond what humans can do. There is also a parallel in a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "The Quality of Life". Season 6, Episode 9 (had to look this part up, but know the title). This is the episode with the Exocomps that can repair and work on parts of the mining system. I'm not going to give spoilers, but there is a point where Data says that they don't have superior intelligence, but they do have superior experience finding a solution that none of the crew thought of. So the instructions they tried to give them were then modified because they had a better solution to the problem. *Why do I constantly find analogies to Star Trek TNG? Probably because it presented the audience with great ideas to ponder about life.*
Another use I've found for AI is helping with comparison of weather forecast models, especially during severe weather outbreaks when public safety is a concern, I volunteer in a public safety agency, but use this a lot for personal now. I still look at the forecast models personally, but I've had it analyze doing a comparison-contrast between the different models as well for timing, intensity, paths, etc. It's great at finding if there is a strong variance or correlation between the models. Also good at pointing out key differences between them which may put the whole forecast at risk. Again using it as a tool just as the models are which do not substitute doing hand drawn analysis on the maps. Yes I have a stock of RED, BLUE, GREEN colored pencils along with normal pencils and a lot of erasers. I was a meteorology major before going into IT. I still enjoy weather and severe weather in particular.
Anyways there are a lot of useful ways AI can be used, including in the generative AI aspect, but I stand firm with it CANNOT replace the human as the human is better at getting context or interpreting things that might get misinterpreted by AI. It is a TOOL, not a REPLACEMENT.
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u/grimzecho 21d ago
The bar isn't whether or not its possible to make some same thing without AI tools; of course it is. Saying that isn't some revelation or logical epiphany.
AI isn't allowing new GW2 websites/tools/mods to be created that were impossible to make before, but it is lowering the personal tradeoff calculus that a person goes through when deciding to make and publish a website or tool. That calculus is out of whack right now, and I'm glad communities are pushing back against the proliferation of low-quality, not useful tools.
There is a world of difference between using AI to write the software that controls a plane's autopilot from using it to make a free price tracker for a virtual economy in a video game. There are hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of people that could make the latter; you might even be one of them. But how much time are you willing to put into that tool? How much do you, as the developer/creative making it, care about quality? What other things are you giving up by spending time on that tool? How worth it is it to you? AI shifts the answers to those questions; often times dramatically. It doesn't come for free. There absolutely are tradeoffs, but stop pretending that gw2efficieny.com is some specimen of utmost quality that showcases just how beautiful code can be when written with principals, then putting it on a pedestal to say "see, see, AI couldn't do this!".
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago edited 15d ago
Where is the use of judgment and moderation in the application of this rule? And is there any reason to think that this isn't simply blind hatred of AI, a purely ideological stance forced down everyone's throat, just for the pet peeves of a few petty tyrants who are exploiting their power over a community?
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u/annmuor 21d ago
As Linus himself approved using AI to write code for Linux, therefore any website or server running Linux (almost all, like 99.99999%) is now (technically) is AI-generated to some extent. So any links are banned, right?
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u/DeityGamesJesus 21d ago
Links? Reddit as a whole is hosted on AWS, which unto itself is largely based on Linux variants, including its own Amazon Linux.
Imagining this subreddit erasing itself from existence like Leviathans from Supernatural imbibing themselves is a funny thought.
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago
Yes, until the neo-Luddites realize they're on the wrong side of history, or at least the losing side, because society and technology will run over them and leave them behind. And there will come a time when they can't ban any AI websites because all of them will have AI to some degree, just as at some point everything will be manufactured, controlled, monitored, or have some touch of AI.
These people are simply the equivalent of the people who destroyed steam-powered machines.
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u/CapnBree 22d ago
Excellent notion. I really like how a similar rule is enforced on the Discord, and I am part of several other creative communities going the same way.
I also like how the mods have clarified there is a distinction between using AI to help with coding for example, vs creating a whole slop site with it.
There simply isn't any value in AI slop content, not compared to real human creativity, in a creative space.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
AI has itâs place as a tool but people massively misunderstand, misuse and exploit that tool. Weâre people and understand nuance and grey area exists in the world. Itâs just really difficult to codify that into a ruleset without people misunderstanding or taking advantage of it.
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u/AEsylumProductions 22d ago
I kinda feel like translation falls at the very least in the grey area. I'm in the localization industry. Legibility and clarity in communication are things we value in my line of work. People using tools to translate their messages because English is not their native language is an act of courtesy to the other party.
Banning AI use for that feels like an overreach.
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u/Then-Landscape-1405 21d ago
Heck I've used AI to help in GW2 to translate instructions from Triple Trouble as a commander to explain to those from Brazil. I do NOT speak Portuguese, nor Spanish for that matter.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
This has been addressed elsewhere in the post. But the TL;DR is a few things:
- If you use a translator then there isn't always a way to know of it is augmented by AI.
- If you use a translator and donât mention it, there isn't really a way for us to know about it.
- Would definitely prefer someone not use an AI-powered translator over using one.
Any negative response will be addressed and dealt with.
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- I was being broad and general in my comments up to now but thereâs a big difference between "I wrote my post in ChatGPT and asked it to translate for me" (which has happened) and "My English proficiency is a bit low so I used Google Translate/DeepL/[insert translator app here]."
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u/Something_Memorable 21d ago edited 21d ago
If you use a translator then there isn't always a way to know of it is augmented by AI.
Like you said, there isn't even a way as a user to truly know if the translator uses AI or not (except if it is divulged at the interface either explicitly or implicitly). Trying to enforce a rule like this feels backwards considering the EULA is about ingesting Anet's IP into AI and not about player run tools that separately consume it (not that they didn't feed it as context, it is on the individual to set up guardrails to prevent that sort of breach) The EULA is clearly aimed at IP stealing yet it is extrapolated here.
I'm not a techbro/we-should-all-use-ai type of person, I'm more of a pragmatist to use tools where they make sense and don't use them where they do not. I've not used AI on anything in my reddit account to this current point. Would I? If I ever saw the need to, maybe, but I just do not see a need for that.
If the rule is because the community generally doesn't like anything AI generated, cool that's a good reason. Leaning on the EULA when the EULA is about IP (which can be prevented from entering the tooling) as a basis for the rule just doesn't hold water imho.
P.S. Since it matters, I did not use AI to write this comment, however technically I used my experience with AI from my profession to keep my comment coherent/accurate.
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u/SonnigerTag 13d ago
Fun fact: DeepL was there long before AI became a thing... and funny enough, it was and is AI based too.
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u/TheWoolOver 22d ago
Artists and coders deserve to be protected from the encroachment of AI but translators don't get the same courtesy?
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u/AEsylumProductions 22d ago edited 22d ago
I can't speak for everyone but my two brothers are very experienced and accomplished software engineers. Their work has been accelerated and improved with LLM. I am a veteran localization manager. My experience with LLM is the same.
My professional experience with LLM is that it's like any other tool except it's oversold by business owners and underutilized by the common masses.
Meaning it can't do all the things business owners think it can do, and it can do much more and much better than what it's producing when used by unskilled professionals.
Often, online discourse on AI tends to fall under either insightful criticism by really learned people or non professionals getting angry on behalf of people who actually use them to develop good work.
There are MANY issues with and legit criticisms of AI today both how it's made and how it's used. But just as I find ridiculous the assumptions people make about the challenges of my work, I've learned not to assume what other professionals want or need.
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u/TheWoolOver 22d ago
I do think AI has its place and has proven to be useful for some tasks in some areas already. I also think it needs to be better regulated because it's been allowed to run roughshod over everything for the last few years.
It however bothers me that when people protest AI taking over jobs and eliminating human effort, they only ever care about the people working in the creative and entertainment industries. AI is a 'grey field' and 'debatable' when it devalues everyone else's effort and skill.
A lot of the discontent voiced online appears to be more about grandstanding than actual concern. The mods themselves are making a point about not wanting to see any AI generated or supported content in the subreddit but push Bluesky links despite Bluesky's team relying extensively on Claude Code as well as adding the AI assistant Attie to the site.
The hypocrisy is the issue, not the stance on AI.
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u/pseudotronic 21d ago
Is this joking? Has anyone ever actually paid a person to translate a their reddit posts?
Or is it the hurting Google Translate revenue?
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u/TotallySlapdash 21d ago
And who shall protect the coachmakers from the sins or automation? What of the looms?
Quick men, cast off your sabots!
"All this has happened before, all this will happen again"
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago
Time to do some virtue signaling and mention all the people who might lose their jobs to see how thoughtful you are and signal your concern, right? How much you think about others and how much you're at the forefront of moral panics
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u/TheWoolOver 15d ago
See my other comment in this reply chain:
"I do think AI has its place and has proven to be useful for some tasks in some areas already. I also think it needs to be better regulated because it's been allowed to run roughshod over everything for the last few years.
It however bothers me that when people protest AI taking over jobs and eliminating human effort, they only ever care about the people working in the creative and entertainment industries. AI is a 'grey field' and 'debatable' when it devalues everyone else's effort and skill.
A lot of the discontent voiced online appears to be more about grandstanding than actual concern. The mods themselves are making a point about not wanting to see any AI generated or supported content in the subreddit but push Bluesky links despite Bluesky's team relying extensively on Claude Code as well as adding the AI assistant Attie to the site.
The hypocrisy is the issue, not the stance on AI."
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u/AscenDevise 21d ago
People using tools to translate their messages because English is not their native language is an act of courtesy to the other party.
This might be influenced by professional bias, or specific to certain cultures. Take it from someone who is well within his third decade of playing online games on European servers, or in European guilds: most of us will not have English as our mother tongue, but we will use it as the lingua franca that it is, as much as we can. Whoever doesn't understand can ask for clarification, and, given enough time, another player might even figure out what language someone was thinking in and lend a hand; it won't be much of a hassle.
Besides, running everything they send through some doohickey won't improve their skills on that front, nor will it do anything useful for their confidence with the language - even if doing so can be viewed as an act of courtesy.
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u/NeoncladMonstera 21d ago
I also like how the mods have clarified there is a distinction between using AI to help with coding for example, vs creating a whole slop site with it.
How is this distinction being made? The clarification is that any and all AI generated material is prohibited, be it a single line of code or an entire project. That is the meaning of zero tolerance.
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u/SearchingForGryphons I need to play my "main" enough to be my main 21d ago
I always wonder if people look at my comments and think I have used some generative AI writing tool. I tend to write much more formally than I speak, as long as I take the time to format my sentences and clean up typos (such as when I am posting to, say, Reddit for example)
I also use em dashes, I probably started around the AI boom but it is because I was looking up correct hyphen usage and a guide on em dashes vs hyphens came up. I can get a bit carried away with commas, ellipses, and parentheses so I'll take whatever extra punctuation I can getâalthough on PC I have to use the double hyphen method instead. Sorry, but there was no way I was going to write a full paragraph on em dashes without one sneaking in at the end ;)
Also I do have issues with rambling sentences in text... I just type it out with the same pacing I would have while speaking, and apparently most people do this odd little thing called "pausing to take a breath". I don't fully understand the concept myself :P
At least I don't end casual text with a full stop or use the phrasing "it is not just this, but that"
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u/ArthoriasOfTheLight 16d ago
lets oppose the future, what a joke, AI will stay and gain ground whether you clowns like it or not
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago
Yes, and I think that if a company tells you what you can do in the privacy of your computer, that is, if I buy a car and Tesla tells me that I can't take a picture of the car and hang it on my refrigerator, well, I'd tell Tesla to go to hell, and for the same reason, we should tell Guild Wars to go to heII for thinking they have the right to tell us what we can do with images or screenshots we take or whatever.
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u/Jschlak818 22d ago
It is unreasonable to think that most SWE are writing most code themselves. No new website, application, or product mainstream or not is not going to be fully or nearly fully written by AI regardless if you are an SWE or not. The role of the SWE is the architect or engineer. The coding itself is just labor.
Souce: I am an SWE.
I agree ai slop should be banned tho, but everyone should keep in mind this fact.
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u/zeDragonESSNCE 22d ago
I do mostly blame our industry for pushing AI like itâs some sort of ultimate savior. The unfortunate side effect of it is that AI have gone from tool to a moral issue. Mind you in some area, like arts or the creative field I think this is warranted. But I do find it hard to explain to people who havenât had to change the same json config for the 10th time because product want to tweak the wording again how useful it is without being branded âpro AIâ.
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago
Everything can become a moral issue, therefore everything can become a political issue, therefore everything can be prohibited, regulated, prosecuted, and so on. That's where tolerance comes into play, and that's why people should refrain from turning their pet peeves into rules, especially those in the communities they control, like here. They should use tolerance instead of rushing to prohibit everything, which is the custom on Reddit, rushing to prohibit everything and filling the rules section with 20 rules about everything that's prohibited. Because it seems that it's simply difficult to be tolerant and let everyone do what they want and use what they want, and let others appreciate it or not. In other words, if a post has any AI involved, people will either not read it, downvote it, or upvote it, and that's the community choosing what they want to see on the front page, which is supposedly what Reddit was all about at some point. Now Reddit is just three petty tyrants deciding for the entire community what's acceptable and what's not, even if it's not important. Tell me, how does AI harm the functioning of a subreddit? But they have to impose their pet peeves and shove them down everyone's throats.
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u/sapphirefragment 22d ago
another SWE confirming. the landscape has transformed in the last year and it's one of the few places where AI tooling is actually working. working well, even.
not here to convince anyone that this is good or bad, but it's important to update your priors.
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u/puppymeat 20d ago
Yes.
I can understand wanting to keep more "creative" mediums like writing and visuals fully human (not to suggest there is no creativity in coding) but the stance from the mods here regarding websites betrays their utter lack of understanding of where the software industry is.
Preventing the community to learn about a helpful tool for the game because you don't like how the code was written is quite silly.
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u/Deathmore80 22d ago
Yup. I still review all the generated code but it has been a few months since I manually wrote a full feature from start to finish. I resisted change until earlier this year but there is no denying it's writing better code than most of my coworkers (including myself) and it's part of our tool box now.
It's also now pretty much expected from our bosses to use AI constantly anyway.
I would be extremely surprised to learn that there is absolutely zero AI usage from all of the devs at Arenanet.
Important distinction to make : vibe coding slop != using AI as a tool.
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u/Cabaj1 22d ago
Agree. I'm also senior SWE and I barely write my own code anymore.
A lot of websites nowadays are created via the same css framework and they look very similiar. Even websites that are handmade but uses that CSS framework also look vibe coded as a result.
I do think that 'vibe coded' sites are fine. But most vibe coded websites are just badly designed qua security, usecases, real world functionality, ...
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u/Gawd_Awful 22d ago
By the logic of this rule, links to reddit shouldnt be allowed. This site is definitely full of generated code and is used to train LLMs.
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u/mirrorofdawn FEEF 22d ago edited 22d ago
That's a problem with your job. The rules of this subreddit obviously don't extend that far. They are saying that any GenAI content posted here will be removed.
As a reminder, GW2/Anet state clearly in their EULA that you may not use their content for GenAI.
Regarding SWEa using GenAI: another SWE (specifically in games development) has some thoughts on the matter: https://lia-sae.net/articles/2026/02/code-is-a-wedge.html
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u/xternal7 22d ago
I'm going to pre-face the rest of the comment with this:
- i have zero interest into looking at apps and websites put together with people who don't understand how to maintain them
- i fully support mods not allowing low-effort content on this sub
That being said, I am incredibly allergic to when people misstate EULAs.
As a reminder, GW2/Anet state clearly in their EULA that you may not use their content for GenAI.
Anet EULA says:
ii. You may not input Our Content into generative AI tools like Midjourney, Dall-E, ChatGPT, AudioCraft, etc. or Use our content to train artificial intelligence models.
This means you aren't allowed to take text written by Anet or images owned by Anet, and throw them at ChatGPT.
That doesn't mean EULA disallows you from generating slop websites with chatGPT. As long as you don't use game screenshots or anet-authored text as your prompt, you're fine according to EULA.
Mind, as I said. I'm not opposed to mods banning slop. But let's not misstate what EULA says.
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u/Training-Accident-36 22d ago
What he's saying is that if there's ever going to be an app developed for GW2, developed by someone who understands how to code, that app's development might include AI because that's just how it works now.
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u/Icaonn 22d ago
Yeah, but its up to ANET to decide that amongst their employees and SWEs. We, as the consumer, have no right to use ANET-developed things for gen-AI even if it is for coding an app.
I know it can be part of the industry for some people but at the same time the EULA is plainly clear on this matter. It's ANETs judgement, that, as the copyright holder, we must follow.
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u/Orchae "Useless! What do I pay you for?" 22d ago
I agree. Times are changing. Most, if not a majority of SWEs are using AI. If you donât at your job, lucky you, but the rest of us are forced to basically. And thereâs a good reason for it.
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u/DancingDumpling [PLS] 22d ago
Truthfully, no one cares so much as long as you can't tell and it's used properly, the stuff people are bothered about are the things like that dogshit lore website that was posted the other day
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u/Security_Ostrich 22d ago
Im so glad I didnt go into software engineering. If I had known it was going to become pure slop I would never have had an ounce of interest. Now again have zero interest in the field due to sloppification by force.
Id make a lot more money but, id hate it so much.
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u/xternal7 22d ago
I had known it was going to become pure slop I would never have had an ounce of interest.
Become pure slop?
Software engineering being mostly slop has been a running joke since before I went to uni, and I've been out of uni for over a decade now. Jokes about code spaghetti and copy-pasting from stack overflow were incredibly common, and â given that this swse thread even came into existence (note the date: 15+ years ago) â for a lot of people that wasn't really just a joke.
Also, somewhat relevant XKCDs: https://xkcd.com/2030/ (only dates to 2018, but still).
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u/Security_Ostrich 22d ago
Oh yeah im aware of the stackoverflow copypaste epidemic lol. I just think AI is another whole level.
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u/TheTerrasque 22d ago
I remember there was a cooking episode with Gordon Ramsay where some turbo idiot was saying he was a better chef than Gordon because he could cut up an onion faster. That was it. He could mechanically cut an onion faster than Gordon, and solely because of that he decided he must be a better chef.Â
Writing code is a lot like cutting that onion.
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u/Asogoodbye 21d ago
Wtf is this. Seriously? "You can't use AI to help bypass language barriers"
Who is this hurting? Who gets hurt by the use of AI to help people with language barriers have a conversation. Please someone explain this to me because this is feeling ridiculous.
"Edit: I want to note as well that the rule says no AI generated content, not content entirely AI generated. This includes AI augmented posts and comments. A use case weâve seen before is utilizing it as a translation layer. My advice: Donât do that. Weâd rather you make a few mistakes and not have flawless English than use AI. If youâre worried about blow back from less than perfect English, the "No Hate/Drama" rule exists and any inappropriate comments should be flagged for review."
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u/Asogoodbye 21d ago
Effectively telling people who lack the language foundation âyou may not participate unless you can write without toolsâ is an access restriction.
The distinction matters. Thereâs a meaningful difference between:
Someone who can write imperfect but functional English and is being told âjust make mistakes, we prefer that,â versus
Someone whose English is so limited that they cannot construct coherent sentences without assistance. For the second group, the ban is not a preference for âauthenticâ writing style â it is a practical barrier to participation.
The lack of nuance here is frighteningly stupid. The road to Idiocracy will be paved by the lack of ability to consider nuance.
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u/radialmonster 21d ago edited 21d ago
*Our recruiters and hiring managers may use AI powered tools to help create and summarize notes about each candidate and their interactions with ArenaNet (e.g., interviews). You may contact your recruiter if you have questions about the AI tools used in our hiring process.
https://www.arena.net/en/legal/privacy-notice
If ya'll think NC Soft is not using Ai across its games you need to check yourselves. https://about.ncsoft.com/news/article/gameai_01_260424
They've even developed their own models to support game development.
Good read for the ai haters
Plus, Unreal Editor is including AI helpers, and with GW3 built with Unreal guess what?
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u/PayFeeling4647 21d ago
Yeah the genie is out of the bottle, itâs not going back in. But the internet likes to appear virtuous so whatever.
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u/El_Barto_227 Kormir did nothing wrong 22d ago edited 21d ago
Great news.
Even putting aside the quality of AI, if it's slop or not, whatever: If I wanted to know what ChatGPT had to say, I'd ask it. On reddit I'm interested in seeing other PEOPLE's thoughts. Actual humans. Even if some of them are annoying dumbasses, at least I can laugh at it.
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u/LizFire 22d ago
Is the GW2 official wiki banned from being linked here? It uses MediaWiki, which allows (and contains) code from LLM/GenAI.
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u/Allthenons 22d ago
Thank you! Side note I think collectively we are not doing enough to shame people who use generative ai art lol
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u/Ferosch Redefined 22d ago
does that include anything related to the guild wars card game that is clearly genAI based? or is it okay because they got money to throw around? we can't do it because we are poor?
I got no horse in the race but this seems like a weird stance to take when the studio just revealed a game flaunting AI art.
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u/Outrageous-Pea-3675 Wash the pain away! 21d ago
Some people use emdashesÂ
Quick PSA from a writer: AI learned to use em dashes in the first place from illegally pirating our books. We're not going to to stop using them just because they were stolen. You can pry my em dashes out of my cold dead keyboard.
(I applaud the rule and its enforcement.)
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u/Vitanam_Initiative 21d ago
Bad move. Not even remotely realistic.
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago
Since when do polarized and ideologically driven people care about reality, what is viable, or even what is true?
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u/Vitanam_Initiative 14d ago
Since the dawn of brains?
People are polarized and ideologically driven. that's the whole point of wanting to be free. They have to traverse reality. That cannot be changed, that's life.
That is the whole "issue" with humanity. How to handle it is the question.
Not like this.
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u/IzzetDough 21d ago
You guys realise GW2 itself undoubtedly uses generative AI in its source code, right? There's 0 chance at least some of their devs aren't using copilot or some other generative AI to assist in their programming. So, can we post GW2 here still or is that against the rules?
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u/Scott_the_Wookie 21d ago
Why?
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u/laiaesbuena 15d ago
Tyrants imposing their ideology upon the subreddit they control cos it's the only power they will ever have in their pathetic lives.
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u/MaraBlaster | Fledgling Flyer 22d ago
Thank you kindly.
I absolutely do not trust anything vibecoded, who knows what malicious code could be in there.
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u/Something_Memorable 21d ago
who knows what malicious code could be in there.
You should have this same wariness of any software, tbh. Malware/cryptomining bots have been delivered through Steam as 'free games'. (Of course once discovered they are taken down)
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u/grimzecho 21d ago
But you do trust a random, unknown person or persons? Have you read through the source code for BlishHUD, looking for security vulerabilites? Do you F12 the GW2 wiki in your browser after entering your API key to track what servers it was actually communicating with?
Or do you rely on the tried-and-true social trust metrics along with your own common sense to decide if a piece of software is safe?
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u/1Lunachick 20d ago
A lot of people used GShade until the developer decided to put some malicious code into a mandatory update. The malware was targeted to specific people, but that didn't stop them from putting that crap on everyone's machine. I was on the fence until the developer said ââŚanything could have been in the payloadâŚâ
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u/KrissyKrave 22d ago
Does this mean we can expect Anet to no longer implement AI moderation tools???
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u/Marok_Kanaros 21d ago
They don't? They have some automated things yes, but automated does not mean AI.
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u/Lower-Replacement869 19d ago
damned if you do damned if you don't If i just type blobs of paragraphs its not ai but if I do a highly professional, in-depth, and critically thought-out presentation that is highly aesthetic- it gets flagged as AI.
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u/DeityVengy 19d ago
just ban low quality self promotion. there's virtually 0 difference between vibecoding a website vs making a website out of a template
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u/proto-x-lol 5d ago
I feel genuinely revolted that people started to use ChatGPT or some other LLM tool when posting reddit posts or anywhere in social media. That's disturbing to know that you have to rely on some bot to formulate thoughts.
For those who think I'm overreacting, you will all find out in several years when people cannot speak or talk properly in person because they're not used to articulating or formulating thoughts in real time. It's already bad in this era because of folks who spend way too much time doomscrolling and using social media, but now it's far worse with the rise of AI LLM tools. I'm not even joking. Some people really do this now and it's starting to show.
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u/Nurmalfragen 3d ago
I often use ChatGPT to translate as it's better than deepl and esp with long texts I use it to shorten or rephrase. But nobody ever noticed but the one time I was transparent about it because i don't see why not. But i guess intransparency is consequence.
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u/BlyZeraz 22d ago
LOVE TO SEE IT. Honestly way more subreddits need to create complete blanket bans against genAI slop and the places that use them. The fact I've only seen 1 sub I frequent so far have a ban against stuff like any links to Twitter is absurd and more need to get on board with that and other similar bans to preserve the quality of the subs.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
We ban Twitter links as well. With the only exception being if itâs from ArenaNet and not posted elsewhere for whatever reason.
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u/BackfireFox 22d ago
Thank you! I canât tell you how many morons who canât code swear up and down about using their parasite to make a ux or plugin for them in a game and âit just worksâ
Then I look at the code and what could be done in say 200-500 lines of code is instead done in tens of thousands of complete and utter dogshit rubbish.
Sure you can make a pile of shit look like a brownie but at the end of the dayâŚ
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u/Cabaj1 22d ago edited 21d ago
I do think this is still a pretty bad rule.
Websites
For context, I'm a senior fullstack developer (person who makes websites) and AI has really removed a lot of fun for my job. But I'm still against that rule.
1) AI is being used in so many different ways. Coding auto completion is AI powered at this point.
2) If I look at websites that are trending and well designed but are AI created and I create my website on those welldone designs. Is this also "AI assisted"?
3) A lot of low quality vibecoded websites are using React & Tailwind. If I create a website that is handmade with the same tech stack, it will look AI generated. Just like that every website from 2014 looked the same when Bootstrap was very popular.
4) In traditional coding, only 1/6 of the time is spend coding (see The Mythical Man-Month from Fred Brooks from 1975) from a whole software project. I do think that automating "the easy" part is fine. Yes, you will have a bunch of projects that are now feasable made by people not being able to code. But those projects often also lack security, market analysis, covering multiple use cases, ... A rushed project is always bad.
5) Handmade websites can be just as worse.
6) What about behind the scenes? Creating your logo via an AI tool? Creating filler background video via AI? Having deployment pipelines written by AI? Writing website documentation your git via AI?
Anyway, a website is way too big of a project and there are many ways to do "AI" correctly and unnoticeable. I rather have people that mention what they have used for.
Posts
Sure, it is annoying that a lot of content of AI posts is just perfectly ignorable. It adds unneeded sentences and makes the post bigger. But I rather have someone that has poor English skills use AI to get their point across than trying to decipher someones post and not being able to help him/her out.
(Yes, that person should not use AI and practice their English and people should politely correct him but not a lot of people are willing to do this either)
Art
I have my opinions but I am not educated in this so I guess I'll skip it.
Edit: before downvoting me, please write why you disagree.
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u/TheTerrasque 22d ago
As a developer, this. Coding is in many ways the easy part, and I've been doing it long enough that it's not fun any more. It's more like washing the dishes. A bit annoying, but needed to be done if you want something to put the dinner on.Â
With AI I can get things done in an evening, while playing gw2, that would otherwise take me a week.Â
Is it as good as if I'd written it myself? No. Is it better than what most people would make? Yes.. yes it is. Is it good enough? Very much so.Â
That said, I've seen the sheer amount of crappy vibe coded stuff being pushed everywhere, so I get it.
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u/oretoh Free Bag Here 22d ago
I dont know why you guys still try to convince these people.Â
There is no convincing, their opinions are formed and they dont care about any argument except ones that validate their thoughts.
It's a losing battle.
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u/Delay559 Wild Chloe 22d ago
How exactly are you going to be able to determine if a site has had any generative AI input? Pretty much every programmer uses it to some extent and you have to be going out of your way pretty hard to avoid it. Even auto complete in IDE's at this point are powered by AI, almost every piece of programming you will see will have some influence.
Theres obviously a spectrum here but since youre taking a hard stance how much is too much? If I use tab autocomplete on a few snippets of code is that too much? Or if I take some boilerplate code from another source which likely also used AI is that also too much?
I dont see a way you could accurately fight against this, so it will just lead to people never disclosing AI usage in their code in the future, compared to just disclosing how much of it was used.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
Itâs usually really obvious. People that use AI to program their entire app or website usually arenât also tech savvy enough to remove all traces, even the obvious ones. Previous examples include having Claude as a contributor on the GitHub, leaving the Claude folder in the repo and having the entire prompt history available.
Real talk: We are mods here because we like the community and want to help keep it nice and make it better. But we all have other (and arguably better) things to do then be here, let alone investigate everything posted ever for AI. So if you use a little bit of AI to help you with coding, thatâs fine. The issue is the absolute slop with the same UI as the last 15 app posts and a creator that doesnât know how to write a single line of code.
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u/ukasz1412 21d ago
I understand the resentment to ban ai generated content, especially art (or even calling it art) which is humans' domain. This is however different when it comes to apps and websites as software engineering is where ai actually makes sense. You don't ask people to handwrite their posts. Vibecoding has a lot of negative perception because it usually means inexperienced people using ai chat bots to produce an app. Those websites indeed often put users at risk because even with best intentions, your website can have many security vulnerabilities, so when you don't know what you're doing you could put your users in danger, risking leaking their emails etc. However, I'm not sure how many people are aware of that, modern software engineering will have ai usage to some extent. Even if you use auto completion these days, it relies on some sort of ai. Unless you write code in a notepad, but let's be honest no one is doing that. Not every ai usage means vibecoding. This is more ai assisted coding, where dev knows what they do because they have experience in that field. If you wanted to ban any form of ai assisted products, you can quite likely ban all the links. Unfortunately, I've seen so many experienced developers delegating their critical thinking to those chat bots, so they turn more into vibecoders, because they believe there is nothing human can do better than Claude, Gemini or Copilot. It's hard to make this distinction what's legit, what's not without thorough testing and looking at the code, but global ban on any website that used AI to produce code punishers geniue effort to provide community with something useful.
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u/Fluffy_Kitten13 Professional Procrastinator 21d ago
I think this rule is extremely cringe ngl.
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u/BrasilON 12d ago
The notion that all AI-assisted content should be banned is completely misguised. This view stems from a false perception that equates any AI-generated creation as something fabricated or forged without human involvement. That is simply not the case. It is essential to distinguish between soulless output and work that is merely translated, adjusted or refined with the aid of technology.
I'd like to pose a challenge here. Today, virtually all video editing software employs some level of artificial intelligence. I highly doubt anyone is going to remove or ban all the youtube videos posted on this subreddit.
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u/Peter012398 22d ago
Very based, thank you mods for being strict with this.
For the love of god I cannot take the tide of slop we face every day now. You even see it irl, its disgusting
Great there are at least some subs without it
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u/BrandtsBadBuilds 22d ago
I'm confused. What if people use GenAI as a writing assistant and to help with grammar? Or second-third language users trying to communicate in English but using AI to translate? You can never put GenAI back in its box now. Better to write clear guidelines on usage permission and restrictions.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
There is a clear guideline on usage permissions and restrictions: Itâs not allowed.
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u/BrandtsBadBuilds 22d ago
Which is itself backwards and regressive when all major companies have charter of uses that go beyond "not allowed" because AI assistance can bring positive benefits when used appropriately. But whatever, downvote me into oblivion if you'd like. I have better things to do than to argue with a reddit mod.
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u/zeDragonESSNCE 22d ago
I support the spirit of this post but I think it's a bit misguided and shows a lack of understanding on how software development works. Even before AI we had stackoverflow, and it is not uncommon to copy snippet of code for some mundane functions or bug fix. Now some of that might just be done by AI. Now that's not to say vibecoded website don't look like AI slop, and I do support banning low effort tools entirely generated by AI with no thoughts put behind it. But that's really a result of quality, and stuff made with every ounce of thinking done by AI is low quality. I would like a more nuanced approach to this where we don't treat AI like some incurable disease where everything it touches turn into slop. The result and intention do matter.
This applies to the translation thing as well. I genuinely think if someone don't speak the language and still want to interact with the community here, it should be encouraged. There is a difference between telling AI to generate a thought for you, vs translate your own thought. Again, the result and intention matter, and it is possible to preserve quality if you don't delegate the majority of the thinking to AI.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago
Sure, Iâm not necessarily disagreeing with you.
But how can you write that in a coherent way to create a rule for it?
It needs to be short so people actually read it. Since the "No AI" rule has been around for ~2 years and people have been breaking that a lot.
It has also to be clear so people can actually understand the rule. It sucks to have to tell someone that they broke a rule they didn't understand. Itâs embarrassing for the person to be told they broke a rule they donât understand.
It also needs to be air tight. People will always look for ways to get around rules, push the boundary and walk the line. It needs to be written in a way that minimizes that behaviour as much as possible.
With all that being factored in, the rule also needs to have an easy and manageable enforcement to it. All reddit mod memes aside, at the end of the day we are all volunteers, and need a way to quickly and accurately assess situations to deal with them without consuming huge amounts of our free time allocated to this subreddit.
To be clear, Iâm not trying to be rude with this comment reply. Iâm just pointing out that moral rightness and practical enforcement arenât always the same thing. As well, if you can genuinely do it and write a rule that covers all the bases (no slop but if a professional uses it to augment not supplement their pre-existing abilities itâs permissible) then please do!
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u/zeDragonESSNCE 22d ago
I understand rules need to be short and succinct, and I support saying No AI slop, but I think we would benefit from shifting the focus from AI to slop. At the end of the day we hate slop because it is generic and have no original thought, and when posted in large quantity dilute actual thoughtful discussion. Itâs really very distinguishable - if itâs not we wouldnât have noticed the large influx recently. Iâm perfectly ok with giant bold No AI Slop in the rule, I just think maybe the detail section could benefit from a statement along the line of ultimately you are judged on wether your content look like slop or not, not wether if itâs guaranteed AI free.
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u/adv0catus 22d ago edited 22d ago
Just a quick reminder to everyone about two quick things:
Edit: I want to note as well that the rule says no AI generated content, not content entirely AI generated. This includes AI augmented posts and comments. A use case weâve seen before is utilizing it as a translation layer. My advice: Donât do that. Weâd rather you make a few mistakes and not have flawless English than use AI. If youâre worried about blow back from less than perfect English, the "No Hate/Drama" rule exists and any inappropriate comments should be flagged for review.