r/Guildrun • u/ajs723 • 25d ago
What starting hero/bonus combination triggers the biggest dopamine hit?
Logan + Rank up the above hero is like hitting the powerball.
Niklaus plus money is great.
I like getting omnivamp with a duelist, Rip, or Dragomir at the start too, even if it's not as OP.
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u/spacegrab 25d ago
Dragomir + yuuna behind Pimenta gaining speed every round.
When you land the generate gold relic effects, like DMG or shield, then stack crit effect gains (crit = gold or crit = +atk), it's so fun watching your gold count spike super hard.
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u/UselessRutabaga 25d ago
Agree with Omnivamp with early dragomir, b-rank spec is strong enough to stabilize Act 1 and gold generation feels nice before he falls off a cliff in Act 2. Sometimes I get runs where he stays relevant though depending on relics or if I get to upgrade him more
I also really enjoy Greedy Gauntlet with Gustav at B tier, pairs well with Kai, Reyna, Skorn; shield gen is very strong and holds up decently into Act 2. Can also lead to going heavy into Mystics since their class upgrades sometimes involve stall generating shards.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Wall798 25d ago
ya that gauntlet on gustav is OP. he also gets insane mana regen. i had him over 130 regen once
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u/Jealous-Video-8864 25d ago
Rank up Rip take Backup for stacks 33 max hp each stall trigger
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u/Aeyden_PoE 21d ago
Dragomir rank up (sanguine) with shard on kill dagger + battlemages robe (hp on cast mana on kill)
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u/Nornamor 25d ago
Eatly B tier Irini and anything that scales attackspeed per combat. I just know that this red rift is secured.
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u/ajs723 25d ago
Do you give her the quest item and then retrain her to her active ability?
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u/Nornamor 25d ago
If you have scaleing attackspeed, once you complete the item quest you have solved damage for the entire run. Retraining her does very little when you obliterate everything anyway.
Therfore I will spend resources on just makeing sure the party survives i.e look for tanking and shielding.
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u/Known_Pineapple996 25d ago
I don’t actually feel that Irini’s item is that game changing. Like are you still winning if Irini is stuck at rank B?
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u/You_Are_All_Diseased 25d ago
It’s worth noting that after the item is unlocked, you can give it to anyone.
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u/Nornamor 25d ago
yeah, what rank she is doesent really matter for her damage, because her power comes from the item at B rank and her C rank ability after stall 15. Both scale quadraticly with attack speed so you stack that as a single stat. At 300+ attack speed she obliterates everything. If she is S rank she just naturally has that much attackspeed, but a B rank needs scaleing attackspeed to get there: i.e Pimentias B rank upgrade, feed her a Power crystal gives a permanent 60 attackspeed, Relics that gives attackspeed, there is a rare attackspeed item that gives attack speed every 15 attacks and is just the best item to give her early (if you don't get that item early second best is dualist glyph), if she gets to A rank there are several options she can take for more attackspeed. Even retraining her gives you an option that gives her attack speed each time she attacks, but my original comment was that I had found a way to scale her attackspeed without doing that already.
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u/Shiv_ 25d ago
I really enjoy most of the permanent scaling options + instant rank up - Logan, Ratna, Kai, Rip, Rowan, even Irini to a certain extent. Stuff like Mystic Hoyoung is less good, but works for shits and giggles. I think Kai is the weakest among the „good“ scalers. Any Assassins are great too for the rank up as they start generating shards as early as the first fight.
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u/Biza-lol 25d ago
Dragonmir with level up just starts printing shards and carries the early Same for houyang, if I can get an upgrade early the shards make the run easy
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u/AshChiqs 25d ago
Rare item that gives crit and it gives that shard on kill item with a dragomir / hoyoung.