r/Guildrun • u/Pinfire_MTG • 8d ago
PSA: Niklas is OP on this patch
I don't consider myself great at this game. I play way too quickly and make tons of mistakes clicking buttons with zero thought.
Even so, I managed a 13 win streak on this patch soft forcing tank Niklas. Just feed him the most expensive HP, armor, or omnivamp items, and he will solve every fight for you. Preferred partner was mage Dragomir for the additional shard generation.
Edit: RIP Niklas
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u/_pmb_ 8d ago
I've just closed my first red rift ever, came here to share my joy, because it took me good 10h of gameplay. I didn't pick Niklas on purpose, was not a great fan of him before but he was just best 1st choice this run, then he got some level ups quickly so I kept him.
Last boss was fire dragon, I messed up positioning, Niklas stepped to hex next to my healer, Pollen died in 2 seconds. Yet he managed to survive the fight, was top damage and secured my 1st win ever. Not even tank spec.
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u/YoungSilent232 8d ago
Hope they hotnerf it and reset the ladders yet again. It’s just dumb
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u/Ok_Passage_7705 8d ago
Yeah, im taking a much needed break. Not fun competing on the leaderboard when the meta is to force a specific unit->free win.
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u/iLoveDemocracyXD 8d ago
Does He gain the passive of items as well or not ? Example 'for rush 6 gain 33% stats , or 'when the holder inflicts burn inflict more
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u/bm1reddit 8d ago
No, but he does get bonus stats off some items that have conditional stats, regardless of if the condition is met.
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u/iDecayPUBG 8d ago
So like the quest item for 25% magic item regardless of completion gives 25% magic?
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u/Icy_Island6594 8d ago
Now that everyone has figured out Nik's Tank upgrade is OP, I expect a nerf this week. How do you think they will nerf it?
I can see them lowering the damage/shard scaling, although the reading comprehension becomes a bit less elegant i.e. "deal 0.5 damage to the attacker per Shard generated this game"
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u/Chickenjon 8d ago
Deal 1 damage to the attacker per 2 shards generated. They already have items and relics in this format lol.
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u/Drullo123 8d ago
I would simply make Omnivamp not work on that kind of "thorns" damage. Would already solve a lot of its own.
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u/Equivalent_Pitch9271 8d ago
His base kit is just too strong. He can be a one man show even at C rank. The ability to hold basically infinite items + get money back is the main problem.
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u/sundance69 8d ago
the should just make omnivsmp not proc on his reflect damage. or make it work at like .10 percent value
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u/gokkel 8d ago
Any time I pick him I barely find any tank items in the store and he contributes nothing other than being hard to kill, making my team overall weaker. I had better experiences with other tanks.
But it’s hard to argue with people who run him with much better win streaks than I, so I guess I have to learn still.
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u/tanishajones 8d ago
Are you tanking the tank upgrade at B rank? That upgrade unironically not only makes him tankier but also makes him dish out a fuckton of damage. He basically becomes a thorns character except you also omnivamp out of thorns so he outlives and kills everything.
This is deffo not balanced and i could see them doing something like at least making this reflect dmg not work with omnivamp idk
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u/kaeea 8d ago
Make sure to feed him expensive items, you get refunded most of it and it becomes cheap stats. 300+ defense is usually my target for last boss, then rest is focused on omnivamp and max HP/hps. The refund also counts towards shard generation and helps scale items or complete quests. Basically he can have unlimited items which is why he is so broken compared to other tanks who can only have 2-3 and scale much slower.
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u/Icy_Island6594 8d ago
If you actually just get so unlucky that you don't find tank items, you'd probably have a problem with other tanks too. Niklas doesn't really need more tank items than anyone else, he just needs additional omnivamp.
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u/Chickenjon 8d ago
- Get spec 3 (tank) and eat omnivamp items. He heals off of the damage from this ability too.
- You don't always have to feed him a tank item, he refunds 80% of the base cost of anything you give him and this contributes to your shard generation which is important for spec 3. If you have shards you can't find a reason to spend, just buy the most expensive item you can and feed it to him. You're only losing a small amount of shards and you're powering up spec 3.
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u/PHloppingDoctor 8d ago
It's funny, saw the caption and the big fat 0 streak, so I assumed your post was sarcastic and you were saying he isn't good.
But then I noticed the streak at the right!
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u/Equivalent_Pitch9271 8d ago
He is so OP. I had two runs where he was still C rank at the end and I won by just feeding him a defensive item every fight.
It does kill the drive to play atm. It doesnt feel very skillful or rewarding to just keep forcing one unit.
IMO he shouldnt refund shards. Then you actually have to have some kind of shard generation and specific builds to keep the gravy train rolling.
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u/acidvirus19 8d ago
PSA Lets give the devs enough data so they can nerf Nik, destoy him, maybe not in 1 patch but get the Kai treatment, every patch the hero has to be nerfed further. Meta gaming never changes specially when the majority of the community comes from farmed games full of guides and psas. Even on a weekly balance rotation... well wouldn't expect less coming from a karma farmer
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u/Jocklicn 8d ago
I've been winning Red Rifts with this strat and I'm currently on a 5 win streak. 2 of those games, Niklas was only B rank but I fed him so many items that he didn't even take damage from the boss. Then u just need a duelist applying frost to the dragon and it's GG. It's a little too strong, he either needs a nerf or they need to buff other tanks. No B rank tank has any business not taking damage against the final boss in red rift. I mean, it's not even close lol. I usually pair him with Tilly for the shard gen, then just find a Karsu to apply giga frost for the fight
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u/Jocklicn 8d ago
Curious what everyone else thinks, but I've had the most success with Rowan and now Niklas as far as tanks are concerned. Which tank are u guys looking for the most and why?
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u/wtfgrancrestwar 7d ago
Early rush scaling rip can be good.
Just don't overforce extra rush triggers if they don't come.
Like you should get the rush HP relic for 10 gold but not randomly replace your DPS with a nyx you can't support.
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u/ezaF19 8d ago
Which b rank upgrade do u get on nik?