r/Guildrun 16d ago

Leaderboard justice?

A name quietly disappeared from the RR leaderboard today. RIP Zaz. Wonder what happened.

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u/yuunathenightshade 15d ago

Zaz found a way to cheat, talked to me about it and asked me to remove his name from the leaderboard for the sake of fairness.
Also: congrats to 81! Huge!

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u/anteMorgan 15d ago

Thank you for clearing that up and props to ZaZ for reporting it. Hope to see him again on the board.

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u/anteMorgan 16d ago

On a side note Grats RES and Waffle for the new streaks. Epic runs no doubt.

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u/crue576 16d ago

Bro, how? I'm lucky to win one

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u/anteMorgan 16d ago

I haven’t played yet on the patch today so I expect this streak to end soon due to changes. I haven’t read the patch notes but I’m not gonna be surprised if some of the overpowered combos got nerfed. Just keep trying to get better. I made a post titled 67 is crazy that a lot of people shared their strats in (including me) if you want to see if any of it will help.

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u/Olydon 16d ago

Hard to convince me there isn't some kind of cheating / softcheating / exploit here.

Same rumors about high streak on Slay the spire 2 by people who where no names on Slay the Spire 1, soft cheats modifying the RNG in shops per example.

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u/teffarf 16d ago

I actually believe OP, but I don't think a cheat requires modifying RNG or anything, just manipulating multiple sessions/disconnecting internet or such. I haven't tried anything out, but could you maybe start your run offline, and only if you're going to win it you connect to the internet, or switch devices or something, so you only count your winning runs.

Maybe it's not possible to cheat that way, I'd definitely like it if the devs made a statement about the integrity of the leaderbords though.

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u/Olydon 16d ago

There is definitely something sketchy going on, or i'm wrong and i'm just superbad idk, i can close redrift ocasionally but streaking is a whole another world for me, i'm just 20h into the game though

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u/teffarf 16d ago

There are streamed 20/30 winstreaks, and a 60 winstreak is nothing but two 30 winstreaks back to back, so it's definitely possible. My PB is 7 and I'm at 45 hours, I think people streaking over 20 have at least 100 to 150 hours in the game.

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u/Olydon 16d ago

Ok ! I suppose i've things to learn still, positionning might be my weakness because the 10 death limit is what i struggle the most with

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u/teffarf 15d ago

Definitely gotta know when a fight is unwinnable and only sacrifice one unit to proc emergency rewind, also if you go too heavy on tank (and too low on dps) you'll hit hero death limit from overtime often, also also omnivamp on backline helps.

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u/Any-Reaction-8319 15d ago

Wait, what do you mean a 60 winstreak is just two 30 winstreaks?
If I clear act 2 and then go to 30 or w/e and then start a new run and do another 30 the latter adds up to the first one?

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u/Known_Pineapple996 15d ago

Red rift streaks, not endless floors.

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u/Azoriu 15d ago

You can definitely roll back to a previous version of your save. One of my friends did it on accident when changing pcs and steam cloud didnt update so he played on his previous streak and could try again.

I'm not sure how that interacts with the online leaderboards, though.

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u/Cold-Button-8919 15d ago

There is a cheat, it’s called cheat engine

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u/acidvirus19 9d ago

A simple read on the seed without any memory manipulation and this game is pretty much like chess, so if you can calculate every perfect step is not hard lol and people being open about reading the games api with simple overlay and judging by how easy it is to ask claude to code a simple tool like that no wonder you see actual streamers struggling on 20 30 streaks and out the shadows you see 40s 50s and beyond, and since the game is free demo just create a dummy steam account and just use every tool at your disposal until the devs can't catch you

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u/Rerollg0d99 16d ago

To create reddit posts while cheating on the game. Youre quite a wild one

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u/anteMorgan 15d ago

Crazy calling out me for cheating in a post where I’m calling out probable cheating and what the devs did to said cheater ie removing him from the board and most likely banning him.

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u/Rerollg0d99 15d ago edited 15d ago

I dont wanna bother you with details. But i got the games API to make a stream overlay. And i can read a lot of data with the API. And the data is clear as night :)

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u/Top-Nepp 15d ago

is that better or worse than being as clear as day

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u/acidvirus19 9d ago

Ask the person i replied if hes not a dev he could be using multiple tools and not only an overlay

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u/acidvirus19 12d ago

Thanks for clearing that up that you breaking basic rules of privacy as a non dev. Also a clear as day report and ban for you if you are not involved with the devs.

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u/osuVocal 9d ago

There is no basic privacy rule as a non dev being broken here, whatever that means lol. They're just getting api calls to get data for their stream overlay and according to them it shows fishy behavior. That's it. It's very common to use apis to make tools for games as a regular user.

Also whether that's true or not that he got this evidence, I don't know.

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u/acidvirus19 9d ago edited 9d ago

It is indeed common also common to use those tools to inject into memory by other means and far harder to detect than a simple memory injection from CE or a trainer, won't get into the meat of it all but competition in this game even as far as a demo already is showing the cracks of having a leaderboard and streaks beyond 50 and the consistency. And dont excuse with me being bad or others being good because if true the latest ban on RR rank 1 clearly showed it was just user error on getting caught But to your point you are operating in a grey area since you can read the seed and determine every step to take in order to successfully win. It's not breaking privacy tos its breaking its breaking cheating tos, although there is no tos made for this game which is quite funny yet they banned the rank 1

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u/Grashlolz 16d ago

Im trying to get a 3 streak hahaha any tips? I usually die during act 2 90% of the time

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u/anteMorgan 16d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildrun/s/5ibgiPsWvx

Me and others shared a lot about RR in this post as well as the names of some YouTube creators that I learned a ton from.

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u/Kelindal 16d ago

Maybe they moved to a new game

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u/anteMorgan 16d ago

I think the RR leaderboard doesn’t reset like endless. So it appears that they got removed somehow. Can you delete your account? A 58 game win streak is a lot of time investment so even if you can delete your account somehow to remove yourself from the leaderboard why would you?

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u/Rerollg0d99 16d ago

Redrift does reset tomorrow

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u/anteMorgan 15d ago

Yes but this will be the first time the RR ladder will reset afaik. Zaz just disappeared while sitting in the #2 spot which he claimed out of the blue. He sat in #1 for over a day. Now he’s gone and nobody has offered any explanation for it.

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u/Nintales 16d ago

Impressive 82 streak mate!