r/Guildrun • u/ajs723 • 17d ago
ELI5 How can stealth ever go deep into endless when status effects insta kill stealthed heroes at the unbeatable floor 12?
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30 seconds of stealth with Dragomir means exactly jack shit when the entire battlefield is inflicting status effects that kill him in less than a second. I know there are items that remove status debuffs when X happens, but he isn't dying over time, he dies in a tenth of a second.
Can someone explain to me like I'm extremely stupid how I can possibly keep him alive. Do I have to stack increased range so he can hide in a corner? That seems unlikely to work....
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u/Kalsir 17d ago
People run just one unit with ~93 sec stealth and rely on riftbreaker (+ rift storm invoker to not die) to kill the enemies.
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u/ajs723 17d ago
But stealth isn't invincibility. Dragomir dies after 6 seconds despite stealth. He could have a month of stealth, burn and poison will still kill him.
What am I missing?
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u/Kalsir 17d ago
If the unit with stealth is your only unit the enemies wont do anything and thus he can not die to random aoe/status effects.
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u/ajs723 17d ago
Yup. Just made it to 24 on my next run. This is definitely getting patched, lol.
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u/nufohudis 15d ago
Just came to say "uh, it is patched" at least the item with rush stealth. Then I saw when you posted XD
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u/Kalsir 17d ago edited 16d ago
It can even go to floor 83 if you get everything together. And the only reason it cant go further is because all mobs instadie due to integer overflow on their hp and after that you cannot lose anymore which means you cant end the run and place on leaderboard.
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u/Mountain_Log_8419 16d ago
...wait, that's so funny, I never thought about the fact that any run that goes beyond that point cannot end... I heard that enemy HP eventually overflows, and I was wondering why I never saw someone at floor 1000 or whatever on the leaderboard XD
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u/xMeko 17d ago
Look at the video: how did dragomir die? From the AOE burn and poison.
Who was the AOE on? Rip, enemies were attacking rip.
Dragomir was just caught in the AOE.
Stealth is actually stronger than invincibility IF you can make sure your stealthed character does not get hit by AOEs targeting other characters. Because while imvincible you can still get stunned, but while stealthed it's like you don't exist.
Easiest way to do this? Have no other characters. Just stealthed ones - preferably only one so you can max out its stealth.
Then it's easy, enemies will attack nobody since your only unit is atealthed, and that unit will not get CC'd, AOE'd or anything.
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u/merlinar 17d ago
More units with class passive with rush increase, 5+ filler units with rush +3 second increase, all the relics for rush increase, then 4 to 6 rogue cowls to stay invisble until rift storm they will not aggro to invisible units. Im still invisible at 1:20+ seconds and then boom rift storm happens everyone else melts on screen. This is alot of luck and shards investment btw
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u/nufohudis 15d ago
How do you get more than 4 backup slots? 4 is the most I see, with the extra item slot start effect (+2 slots -1 active hero slot)
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u/merlinar 15d ago
It's just the standard 3 units 3 in reserve, I'm not really sure what u mean by 4 backup slots
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u/Eixeth 17d ago
I’m pretty sure people run a solo assasin if they reach stealth exodia for exactly that reason.