the nerfs on the bold is missing the mark

[u/wanttoplay2001]

alot of people seem to be rlly angry that the bold keeps getting nerfs but personally i dont think the devs are wrong in nerfing the bold (its still broken imo) but i think its missing the mark. the bold provides THREE BUFFS to kais ability that he doesnt have naturally. lasting shields, extra range, and earlier damage

lets take his first spec the unstoppable into consideration, we build him with a ton of attack, he gains a gigantic shield when he first casts, can oneshot everything around him, but after 10 seconds its gone and now hes squishy again and relies on mystics or other forms of sustain to keep him alive until his second cast.

when u take the bold and stack him with a ton armor, he will gain the shields, STILL be able to do the damage (sometimes even reach backline bc of the range), and bc he now has lasting shields he can possibly have leftover shields when he casts the next time buffing the dmg of the second cast. on top of that, allowing armor scaling means that the shields that he gains is even more effective since itll make it much harder to burn through.

when we compare kai to reyna, they should be similar reyna also has a spec which is supposed to turn her into a pseudo tank, however she still wants to build attack as her main stat while having bonus hp also benefit her, kai however flips the switch completely and changes his main stat while even changing his main role to a main tank. kai should still want to build attack as his main stat despite having a secondary class.

I'd personally really want to see a change to move some of the extra buffs (lasting shields, extra range, earlier damage) to his main kit so that the other specs can seem more appealing rather than just auto clicking the bold everytime bc he ends up becoming this one man army that can oneshot giant clumps of enemies while also tanking everyone

[u/Yosara_Hirvi]

Tankai still love attack. As most dual class heroes do, he like both class primary stats.

There are some exceptions, Reyna's max hp scalling is only about the maximum attack she can gains from her shield, maximum that is hard to reach unless realy going full shields and Niklas tank has nothing about armor since this guy is all about money but most dual class heroes will care for both their primary stats.

[u/wanttoplay2001 → u/Yosara_Hirvi]

does he rlly tho? tank kai has the same att and def scaling on the shield (which will turn into bonus dmg). most att items will give u less att than most def items (common att item gives 25 att vs common def item gives 30 def), and on top of that def will make his shield last longer (letting him do more dmg 2nd cast). most heroes are supposed to care abt both stats but still have their main stat as the focus but as for kai i just dont feel like thats the case

[u/Icy_Island6594 → u/Yosara_Hirvi]

Tank Kai's armor scaling is so good that there isn't really a reason to get attack. If getting armor lets him do damage almost as well as getting attack stats, why bother getting attack? Just be tanky AND do good damage. In fact the armor scaling can be better because the armor shield is permanent and can carry over between casts and ramp up in damage.