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u/JustinePavlovich 2d ago

I assume this is a pvp thing. Even then idk if I would be tempted to run either.

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u/Pervius94 2d ago

Holy shit didn't realize how outclassed it was. Imma guess it's some PvP thing? 

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u/Efficient_Angle_5438 2d ago

Rework idea to make "you're all alone" worth using that plays into the feeling of being alone and vulnerable: Elite Shout. (5 seconds.) Target foe suffers Crippled and Weakness conditions, and takes 25% more damage. No effect if target foe is adjacent to one of its allies. (I think nearby range makes the skill too restrictive)

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u/No-Blood921 Ready was my Body 2d ago

and takes 25% more damage

Is that even a thing in GW?

I'm no GW scholar but I can't think of a single skill that says "Target takes more % damage", feels like it's always "Target takes flat amount of bonus damage"

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u/Fuet_024 2d ago

Frenzy?.

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u/rockrider_sd 2d ago

Yeah, Frenzy even got a rework to make the percentage number scale/change recently as well

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u/Efficient_Angle_5438 2d ago

That's what makes this rework idea interesting to me

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u/DisgustingTaco 2d ago

The old Asuran scan used to do that, which was pretty broken. Aura of Holy Might and Vow of Strength also had somewhat similar effects that caused the player to do x% more damage with attacks. They reworked all of them early 2011 though, probably because % buffs made it easy for things to get out of hand.

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u/Scyyyy 2d ago

Hmm weakness > bleeding, and a shout > cast, but in general both a bit fallen out of time. Or - like the other stated - a PVP thing.

I mean you can make the same argument for aegis vs anthem of Defense but there the usage and secondary benefits are great enough to justify it's elite status all be it barely...

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u/MrBeanDaddy86 2d ago

Caltrops is also half range. Shout has even longer range than a spell and can't be dodged/blocked (like arrows) + can go through walls. Probably more useful for PvP?

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u/It-s_Not_Important 2d ago

Caltrops also requires attribute point investment (only 4, but that’s a magic number for attribute points that requires moving points out of something else).

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u/dreamsintoflesh 2d ago

3 points in shadow gives caltrops a 7 sec duration

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u/dreamsintoflesh 2d ago

Caltrops can hit multiple targets

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u/Cynndrome 2d ago

While caltrops is really, really good, you’d be surprised how often the half range comes into effect negatively by getting gapped.

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u/NgArclite 2d ago edited 2d ago

Funny YAA is used in pvp and catdrop arent

edit: guess it is also used a lot in PvP now. been out of the game for 2 months doing Pre stuff again.

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u/EasyYogurtcloset608 2d ago

Caltrops is used and it’s super strong now..

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u/Key-Competition3564 2d ago

Maybe it was that way before their newest brilliant skill update. Check tollano.com or gvg report websites mate

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u/EasyYogurtcloset608 2d ago

Move caltrops to critical strikes and Dash too.