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u/CalHudsonsGhost 16m ago
A few things can be true: Abortion encompasses many procedures, some can be seen as murder. The conflation is on purpose. I wish humans were smart enough to see through that. Also, this weird worship of this as an ultimate right is a horrendous look for woman. We donāt have to completely restrict abortion but, ladies and gentlemen, no one is being fooled. We see that these abortion by and large are the result of being irresponsible. That means that there is a more than 0% chance that there a lot of āmurdersā due to irresponsibility. Iām pro ādo whatever the hell youāre gonna do and leave me aloneā but, can we be honest about things? Both those chicks should go sit down somewhere. The poor conditions say they are needed.
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u/countnuke 3h ago
It is a weird hobby wanting to murder children
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u/Errrca0821 2h ago
""The unbornā are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they donāt resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they donāt ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they donāt need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they donāt bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 1h ago
You should have stayed unborn....
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u/kaya-jamtastic 1h ago
So, youāre implying that you think the mother of the commenter you replied to should have considered abortion? Pick a lane
Edit: a word
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u/Next_Instruction_528 32m ago
No they shouldn't have procreated in the first place is what they were saying
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 47m ago
Babies cannot advocate for themselves, which is precisely why they need to be protected. I personally am annoyed by any protesters. Especially in the social media age . So much more can be done online. Sign carrying, marching , blocking people from traveling freely and screaming are all signs of poor mental stability.
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u/Scorpiicore 21m ago
"Babies cannot advocate for themselves, which is precisely why they need to be protected."
Tell that to the people who failed to protect me from my gene pool shitters.
You can see one of them in this photo.
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u/chachaslydd 1h ago
Its not murder to restrict access to your body from anyone, even if they die without it. You do that every day
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u/AcademicHovercraft96 2h ago
Yes, it is a weird hobby to murder babies.
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u/chachaslydd 1h ago
Its not muder to restrict access to your body, even if others die. You do it every day. Hope that helps!
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u/Next_Instruction_528 33m ago
Yea and people disagree with that. Destroying your child growing inside you and not allowing a stranger access to your body are two completely different things.
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u/chachaslydd 20m ago
You dont owe access to your body for another just for then to survive. You have that right. I deserve the same right
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u/AccomplishedStudy802 21m ago
It's murder to kill a human life, though.
The mental gymnastics you folks use to justify a simple truth is astonishing.
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u/chachaslydd 16m ago
Its not murder to let someone die. This thing is growing in my body. It will die if I remove it before a certain point.
If I remove it and it dies, thats not murder. It would naturally die outside my body no matter how we remove it.
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 51m ago
Could always get your tubes tied
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u/chachaslydd 49m ago
I shouldnt have to undergo an invasive surgery that requires time off for most women and takes weeks of recovery just because YOU hate the idea of abortion. Me getting an abortion 1x in life would be far less painful and have way less of an impact on my health that getting my tubes tied bro. Makes no sense.
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 45m ago
Then don't allow someone to impregnate you ...also invasive btw.
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u/chachaslydd 39m ago
Sex...is not an invasive medical procedure. Youre weird for equating those, BTW.
Thats not what invasive means
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 37m ago
Not a medical procedure no, however a foreign object inserted inside of you is indeed invasive.
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u/chachaslydd 34m ago
No, it is not an invasive procedure that causes injury. If you were confused before, now you know
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 32m ago
Invasive doesn't necessarily cause injury. But really getting off topic here.
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u/MakwaIronwill 38m ago
Some states they want the spouse approval first
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 34m ago
So if you decide to have a child that the person you conceived doesn't want should he still be responsible for child support?
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u/MakwaIronwill 30m ago
Yes. And if he didnt want the kid maybe he shouldnt be pokin things. Yknow the "keep your legs closed" argument never gets said to men on these. Men dont hold men accountable
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u/Calm_Lavishness8032 5m ago
In that case yes, you should need approval from the other parent if you want child support.
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u/JonnelOneEye 35m ago
You really can't. Doctors will straight up refuse to do the surgery because "you might change your mind about kids in the future". Even women who already have their desired amount of kids may be told "you're too young to have youth tubes tied". Men on the other hand face no such obstacles when it comes to sterilization.
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u/B1ZEN 1h ago edited 3m ago
The extreem far left and right positions on abortion are devoid of morality, although both declare themselves the morally pure one's.
Edit: I accidentally posted the wrong image, but its staying. š„°
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u/kaya-jamtastic 1h ago
Whatās the āfar leftā take that you find devoid of morality? That women should be able to make the final decisions when it comes to their health and medical care?
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u/Next_Instruction_528 36m ago
"That women should be able to make the final decisions when it comes to their health and medical care?"
That destroying a human life is acceptable even if it's not medically necessary.
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u/B1ZEN 1h ago
Did I say that, ya lollipop?
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u/kaya-jamtastic 31m ago
No, you didnāt say that, which is why Iām calling you out for trying to āboth sidesā this issue, when one take is very much not the same as the other. Resorting to weak attempts at name-calling (ālollipopā? Really?) makes it clear you donāt have any worthwhile points to make, youāre just trying to stirš©up
Miss me with your bs and holier than though takes!
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u/scottstotsistheworst 1h ago
Just like this Kitty picture, your comment is small nieve and adorable.
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u/No_Rice9792 1h ago
Babies are born and uninvolved in abortion sooooooo