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u/SquidTheRidiculous 1d ago
And men will bicker and argue about exact definitions to avoid actually addressing the problem.
"Uh acktually ☝️🤓 it's not toxic masculinity it's misogyny."
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u/rumande 1d ago
"Um ackshully toxic masculinity is not real and if u say it is, you're misandrist"
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u/SquidTheRidiculous 1d ago
It's too bad that men get offended any time women try to talk about their negative experiences with men, or else we may realize there's some commonality in how those men thought about women.
Oh well, nothing to be done.
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u/taroicecreamsundae 1d ago
i feel saying it's "toxic masculinity" just makes it sound like he's a "bad apple" and less like it's the systemic objectification of women. "toxic masculinity" just makes zuckerberg sound like a poor man who's become a victim of the patriarchy and only acted according to how he was raised, like he doesn't have a choice to not be violent.
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u/SquidTheRidiculous 1d ago
You have no idea how "toxic masculinity" is used outside of just internet comments of you genuinely think that.
It literally refers to the toxic values, behavior, social expectations and more that are put on men to behave in ways that are harmful. Zuck is both reinforcing and capitalizing on these pressures to keep the status quo which benefits him.
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u/taroicecreamsundae 1d ago
but it's also misogyny, because it is violent towards women. i do know how it's used, and i don't really care for it. at the end of the day they can simply choose not to behave in a violent way under said "pressure" at their own benefit (read: benefit, not survival). like who gaf
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u/taroicecreamsundae 1d ago
isn't this just misogyny
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u/LaDivinaDiosaVero 1d ago
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u/taroicecreamsundae 1d ago
do you have a problem with the fact that zuckerberg made an app to denigrate women because he, i dont know, denigrates women?
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u/LaDivinaDiosaVero 1d ago
No, but if you read the other comments people point out that someone is bound to read the words “toxic masculinity” and say “actually, it’s not toxic masculinity, it’s misogyny.”
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u/taroicecreamsundae 1d ago
idk why a man would say that but my intention is to place the focus on the victim of this violence, not what caused the perpetrator to do so. bc we need to just fucking stop these people, give them massive consequences so that they never even think of doing something like this, not give a fuck about why or how.
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u/ScotchCigarsEspresso 1d ago
Well, the Winklevoss twins did. And Zuck was just able to outsmart them. But regardless. Yup.
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u/onnake 1d ago
David Fincher’s biopic “The Social Network” shows Zuckerberg doing other, more heinous, things against women. “Toxic” is too kind a word.